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Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:49 am
by wch125
Here is my thoughts on the Southeast as far as a preseason top ten teams regardless of division. Feel free to make your own. I went back to see who was returning some tournament results and dual results. Lets get some talk going

Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

1. Miami Trace
2. New Lexington
3. Sheridan
4. Circleville
5.Logan Elm
6.Wellston
7.Fairfield Union
8.Paint Valley
9.Zane Trace/Nelsonville York,Chillicothe

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:56 am
by Tomahawk
I think Logan Elm will take the number 4 spot if not higher. 9 of our 13 weight classes are filled with seniors who have lettered varsity since 9/10th grade. The others are filled by returning varsity letterman as well. Baker, Konkel, Crosby, Wolford, Gifford, Johnson, Laux, Fouch, Sherman, Brigner are all good leaders and are already teaching our younger guys what it takes to succeed. This by far is the most seasoned senior class that I have seen.

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:15 am
by wrestlefan
no love for chiilicothe... we arent behind some of those teams

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:06 pm
by wch125
Chillicothe does have some talent returning. I could see them coming in around the 10 spot.

How are line-ups looking around the Southeast are most teams going to be full? WCH will be very close. Right now the only weight class not filled is 112.

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:06 pm
by tric118
You may want to look at some of the incoming Freshman. The TVC finished 10th in the Junior High State Tournament last year which consits of 1 Division. There are some very very good freshman coming into the TVC.

2008 Junior High State Championship
Team Scores
Ohio University, Athens Ohio
March 15, 16, 2008

1. Federal League 215.50
2. East Central Ohio League 113.00
3. Greater Western Ohio Conference 112.00
4. Northeastern Buckeye Conference 100.00
5. Central Buckeye Conference 88.00
6. Suburban League 86.50
7. Ohio Valley Conference 75.50
8. South Central Ohio League 74.00
9. Eastern Ohio Wrestling League 69.00
10. Tri-Valley Conference 68.50
11. Ohio Capital Conference 68.00
12. Northwest Ohio Athletic League 66.00
13. Principals Athletic Conference 63.50
14. Sandusky Bay Conference 58.50
15. Mid-State League 57.00
16. Green Meadows Conference 51.00
17. Fort Ancient Valley Conference 45.00
18. Firelands Confernce 42.00
19. Ohio Heritage Conference 36.50
20. Ohio Cardinal Conference 31.50
21. Midland Athletic League 25.00
22. Northern Ohio League 20.00
23. Muskingum Valley League 19.00
24. Inter-Valley Conference 16.00
24. (tie) Northern Lakes League 16.00
24. (tie) Patriot Athletic Conference 16.00
24. (tie) Southeastern Ohio Athletic League 16.00
28. Greater Catholic League 15.00
29. Cross County Conference 14.00
30. Western Buckeye League 11.50
31. Central Catholic League 10.00
32. Chagrin Valley Conference 8.00
33. Northeastern Conference 7.50
34. Lake Erie League 7.00
35. Metro Athletic Conference 4.00
35. (tie) Premier Athletic Conference 4.00
35. (tie) Miami Valley Conference 4.00
38. Cincinnati Hills League 3.00
38. (tie) Metro Buckeye Conference 3.00
40. Northwest Conference 2.00

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:24 pm
by wch125
Yes there are some freshman that will have an impact, but you can't factor that in until the season starts and they start competing at the High School level. I'm sure teams will move up and down Im just getting some talk started.Speaking of freshman what are some names of incoming freshman wrestlers that placed or qualified that could have an immediate impact?


Also the South Central Ohio League finished 8th also teams from that league that are in the sectional include Hillsboro J.H. State Champ, Washington C.H. J.H. State Runner-up, Miami Trace 1 qualifier.

Who are some of the qualifiers and placers from the TVC?

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:01 pm
by wrestlefan
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Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:39 am
by wch125
This is just to get some talk going.

Top 3 regardless of div. in Southeast
103 Not a clue
1.
2.
3.


112
1.Reed Wat SQ
2.Greenlee Cir SQ
3. Fairchild Well

119
1.Minnard FU SP
2.Lump PV DQ
3.Goolsby Hills DQ


125
1.Neff MT SP
2.Hupp Mar SQ
3.Hook NY

130
1.Garringer MT SP
2.Davis Cir DQ
3.Miller Wat DQ


135
1.Barnett Sh
2.Davis ZT
3.Bays GA

140
1.Moeglin NL
2.Fraley MT
3.Smith Wat

145
1.Fondale NL
2.Armstrong MT DQ
3.Otero Cir

152
1.Gifford LE
2.MCglaughlin Ath Sp
3.Dunfee War

160
1.Packard Bel SQ
2.Norway NY
3.Wolford LE SA

171
1.Young Ath DP
2.Patterson VC DQ
3.Robinson NL DQ

189
1.Mcintosh MT SQ
2.Lockard Well SA
3.White PV DQ

215
1.Carpenter Sh SA
2.Gravley GA DQ
3.Cannon NL

HWT
1.Roberts FU SQ
2.Lee NL DQ
3.Demick Ch

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:51 pm
by Tomahawk
I would include Johnson from Logan Elm in the mix @112. He beat Lump from PV by major decision @ London. Also...the wrestling facility at Logan Elm is complete and man is it awesome! You can take about 6 of circlevilles and sit them inside it. It is way bigger than that of Ohio State and has just as many weights and equipment in it.

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:36 am
by wch125
Tomahawk sounds great could you post a pic of the wrestling room. Also I forgot about Johnson he has been very solid over the years.

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:54 pm
by Tomahawk
Never posted a pic on here before...here it goes.
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Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:11 am
by wch125
Im jealous that is a great looking room

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:46 am
by Auburntgrfan
Andrew Dunfee, Warren was a DQ last year and should be in the mix at 140/145.

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:25 pm
by TakedownFor2
Ok, as a person who has no affiliation to any school anymore.... I must say that for chillicothe to be ranked in the top 10 over the likes of Athens is a joke. While Athens program is just now starting to turn it on, they are still a better team then some of the teams on the list, IE... NY (No disrespect Coach Yinger), Wellston, Chillicothe, Paint Valley.


Wrestlefan- no offense intended here, as I like the way that you back up your team, but you almost seem to throw them under the bus a bit, because they are not as good as you would like to think. By making some of the statements that you make, its almost as if Youre asking your kids (who im sure some of them read this) to back up your words, and quite frankly it is hard for them to do so. I hope you do not take this response with a grain of salt because it was not intended to be disrespectful, just an observation

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:27 am
by tric118
The rankings are just somones opinion don't get worked up about them. And yes Athens is a top 10 southeast team. Athens and Nelsonville-York will be tested this weekened at New Albany.

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:39 am
by maddog54
Takedownfor2, That ranking list is from right when the season was starting. Going into the season Chillicothe had some solid kids returning. Since then, some of those kids are no longer with the team. The team is now short a few weight classes, and is very young, since they lost those experienced kids.

So yes you are right they do not belong in the top 10 any more, but before the season started it seemed they would be the front runner for a league title, and chance to qualify a solid number of kids to districts.

So there is some facts to help you with your opinion you had.

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:50 am
by wrestlefan1
takedownfor2
no offense at all taken..
however, i dont see anywhere that i said we were all that.. for se ohio, we are a decent team..
nothing spectacular..
we do have a couple kids that are spectacular and have justified it


What are "some of the statements that you make"????
really confused here

i wouldnt put us over athens either

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:22 am
by Nybucks70-80
This will sound like I am bashing Wellston, but I am not. They have proven an earlier point that they are not a top ten team. Their 112 is not a top 3 kid and they have no shot at winnig the TVC this year! Athens handled them this past weekend and they will not be able to beat the kids from Belpre and Waterford. New Lex and FU are really down this year! Well,,,,, Minnard is a beast at 119.

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:56 pm
by ohio blue warrior
let the truth be heard !!!!!!!!!! take a long look at the records after new albany........

Re: Southeast Div.I,II,III Top Ten Teams

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:33 am
by Tomahawk
Johnson (LE) crushed Fairchild(WE) @ Circleville. It wasn't even a contest. Johnson pinned him in 2:46 after having him on his back the whole 1st period. When the second period came, even when Fairchild was put in the position to be in control, Johnson easily reversed and got a pin.