Running up the score

[CoolPiketonDude]

I say dont take out starters till you have a 42 point spread. For example, a few years back Piketon was beating waverly with a 21 point lead with only 3 min on clock. Waverly ended up winning by one point. That sucked. Score it up And be safe. It happens

[LoganElm_grad09]

It's the defense's job to stop the offense. Fail to do so, you get beat. Simple as that. When you get these huge leads, I think there's two solutions. Leave varsity in, but just run the ball to chew up clock. Or, you put in reserves, and run your offense (it helps build experience). There's a difference between an offense that is rolling and trying to run the score up on somebody (I've been on both sides of said situations).

Now as for running a continuous clock, I think though it'd be merciful, it'd be embarrassing.

[I drain 3's]

It's the defense's job to stop the offense. Fail to do so, you get beat. Simple as that. When you get these huge leads, I think there's two solutions. Leave varsity in, but just run the ball to chew up clock. Or, you put in reserves, and run your offense (it helps build experience). There's a difference between an offense that is rolling and trying to run the score up on somebody (I've been on both sides of said situations).

Now as for running a continuous clock, I think though it'd be merciful, it'd be embarrassing.

+ 1 million

[Slew72]

In some other sports they take players off of the playing field if the score gets out of hand. So for example, you could play 11 on 10 if you go up by say 35. You know since we're all about being PC nowadays and everybody has to be a winner.

[Crab's Brother]

Thankfully, I have only had a few experiences being on the bad side of a blowout. That said, I don't have a lot things to base this on, but there is no way that I would want a running clock or to play 11 on 10 or 11 on 9. I think that is the most embarrassing. I feel I would rather get beat 56-0 than lose 48-20 and score some garbage td's on 9 guys.

While I do agree that subs should be made, I think it is total crap to bring in the backups/jv's and start running a vanilla inside the tackle offense. These kids run the same offense all week as the starters, they should get reps running it on Friday in a blowout. I don't think teams should be running reverses or half back passes, but just running iso, dive, power serves no purpose.

[YoDuh]

Running up the score is a myth entertained by those who can't.

[RationalVoice]

YoDuh,
Think before you post. There are coaches out there who, unfortunately, run up the score - showing zero class. I witnessed a fake punt late in the 4th quarter of the Fairland-RV game last Friday - with the score being 29-7 at the time...no need for that crap. And, from what I understand, Alexander has pulled similar stunts. Coaches with class simply don't do those things.

[eagles73Taylor]

In the words of the United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, running up the score is something I cant define but I know it when I see it! lol

Everyones opinions differ on the matter, but almost everyone agrees that in the coaches heart lies the answer.

Example, coaching jr high football several years back down 28 to 6 with under 2 minutes to go and other team has the ball. They run a halfback pass to score. When we met at mid field I nicely of course told the other coach that was chicken crap running a half back pass up that much with that little time with starters. He said, that wasnt a half back pass, it was a full back pass!

He didnt care about anything except that score, that is running up the score.

The next year I was loaded and when we went to their place to play I had all intentions of throttling their team, but when it came down to it I couldnt. Why, because it wasnt that group of kids fault what their coach had done the year before.

I simply told the coach at the end of the game, good game coach! Of course my 3rd string tailback had scored twice on him on toss sweeps! lol All starters were pulled late in the 3rd with the score around 30 to 0.

[NYBuckeye96]

Is it considered running up the score if you have taken out all of your starters and are mostly playing freshmen or sophomores in a varsity game, and those players are able to score? These players usually don't see much action until the outcome is a foregone conclusion and these players are excited about the opportunity to score a TD in a varsity game.

Does anyone consider this running up the score?

[eagles73Taylor]

^^^^^ I dont. When I put my backups in I still had them throwing passes, not deep routes but short underneath stuff so my backups would get work.

[maniac66]

It does depend on the coach and fans will support their team regardless.
You know how good a team is or how bad one is when you play them Ironton Played Chilicothe Ironton pulled it's starts chilli is going through a rough stretch and Ironton didn't make it worse than it was for them that is class there.
not every coach is the same and some do it and say it is there right to do so and fans will say everyone deserves the chance to score if needed.
Everyone will differ on this and that is why it is a discussion and not a law.

[YoDuh]

YoDuh,
Think before you post. There are coaches out there who, unfortunately, run up the score - showing zero class. I witnessed a fake punt late in the 4th quarter of the Fairland-RV game last Friday - with the score being 29-7 at the time...no need for that crap. And, from what I understand, Alexander has pulled similar stunts. Coaches with class simply don't do those things.

Hmmm, Fake Punt envy you have.
Real time practice of a technical high risk play, it is.
Invaluable experience impossible to simulate on a practice field, it is.
Mindful of the future, it is.
Rational your reaction, is not.

[RationalVoice]

Huh ? You didn't address the issue. No matter the irrelevant info you posted, it's classless to run up the score...and there obviously is something called "running up the score". Try to stay focused on the topic & post relevant thoughts.

[YoDuh]

Huh ? You didn't address the issue. No matter the irrelevant info you posted, it's classless to run up the score...and there obviously is something called "running up the score". Try to stay focused on the topic & post relevant thoughts.

OK, enough Yoda speak.
Let me spell it out for you as it was obviously too much for you to grasp.

You equate 4th quarter fake punts to classless acts of running up the score, blah blah blah, sour grapes, blah blah blah.

I say that they are invaluable high pressure practice time for a risky play you might need to win a game in the future.

Try to stay focused on the topic & stop being so Defensive (pun intended).

[WitnessProtection]

This post will draw some heat, but here goes.
I believe there are some schools that simply need to stop trying to field football programs. This business of suiting up 15-20 kids and sending them out to get hammered by 60-70 points every week is ridiculous. Not to mention the fact that if you start a season with 15-20 kids, you most likely will not end the season with that many left healthy.
We call out schools/coaches for running up the score, but how can it helped at times when the opposition they're facing is incapable of putting up much of a fight if any.
Okay, fire away, guys.

[bucks_09]

This post will draw some heat, but here goes.
I believe there are some schools that simply need to stop trying to field football programs. This business of suiting up 15-20 kids and sending them out to get hammered by 60-70 points every week is ridiculous. Not to mention the fact that if you start a season with 15-20 kids, you most likely will not end the season with that many left healthy.
We call out schools/coaches for running up the score, but how can it helped at times when the opposition they're facing is incapable of putting up much of a fight if any.
Okay, fire away, guys.

I agree with you to some point. Its not fair to teams who play these small schools with 20 players that their jv can throw up 5 or 6 touchdowns on, but it also wouldnt be fair to tell the kids at a small scholl that they wouldnt have a football team that year since there was only 20 boys wanting to play. Im not trying to offend anyone by saying this but around here there is the tvc hocking full of teams like this. There will be 1 or 2 teams usually every year that sweep the tables in this conference, for example the last 2 years its been Wahama and Trimble. With a team this small losing 2 or 3 players to moving, graduation, injuries, ect. could break a team. So a team finishing last this year could turn it around and come in 2nd o 3rd the next.

[RationalVoice]

"I say that they are invaluable high pressure practice time for a risky play you might need to win a game in the future."

You've gotta be kidding me. Why not just keep your starters in the whole time and get some more "invaluable high pressure practice time"?
Why not let the starters stay in on defense & get some "invaluable high pressure practice time" on their blitz package ? Why not let the starters stay in on offense & get some "invaluable high pressure practice time" on their passing game ?


There's a reason most coaches don't do what you're proposing. It's classless & unsportsmanlike...not to mention stupid. A kid could get injured in mop-up time.

Your experience in the band obviously didn't prepare you to think in terms of sportsmanship & class.

[YoDuh]

"I say that they are invaluable high pressure practice time for a risky play you might need to win a game in the future."

You've gotta be kidding me. Why not just keep your starters in the whole time and get some more "invaluable high pressure practice time"?
Why not let the starters stay in on defense & get some "invaluable high pressure practice time" on their blitz package ? Why not let the starters stay in on offense & get some "invaluable high pressure practice time" on their passing game ?


There's a reason most coaches don't do what you're proposing. It's classless & unsportsmanlike...not to mention stupid. A kid could get injured in mop-up time.

Your experience in the band obviously didn't prepare you to think in terms of sportsmanship & class.

...and your repeated miserable attempts at personal attacks over a difference in opinion have certainly rendered you classless-like, unsportsmanlike & irrational-like.

[selonmc]

This post will draw some heat, but here goes.
I believe there are some schools that simply need to stop trying to field football programs. This business of suiting up 15-20 kids and sending them out to get hammered by 60-70 points every week is ridiculous. Not to mention the fact that if you start a season with 15-20 kids, you most likely will not end the season with that many left healthy.
We call out schools/coaches for running up the score, but how can it helped at times when the opposition they're facing is incapable of putting up much of a fight if any.
Okay, fire away, guys.

If you are a power or at least have a healthy program why are you even scheduling these schools? Obviously they have issues if they can only get 15-20 kids out. There's a lot of those schools and they should be playing each other until they get their program turned around. If you come across a school like that your coach or AD should know it before a contract is signed. If you're a solid program, it does nothing to even be signing contracts with these schools. If they are conference member and completely non-competitive then maybe they should be persuaded to take a step back.

Also, I think 6 man football is in the future for Ohio for these schools.

[RationalVoice]

YoDuh,
You say things like...
"Rational your reaction, is not."
"Let me spell it out for you as it was obviously too much for you to grasp."
"…classless-like, unsportsmanlike & irrational-like."

...and I'm guilty of personal attacks ?

Anyway, running up the score is deplorable. Let the JVs run the offense, etc. But, draw the line at long passes, trick plays and such.