2010 SEOAL Previews: Logan Chieftains

[newlex/sheridan]

My opinion is based on knowledge of the player, program and my relationship with some of the coaches. I played in the system about ten years ago now. I know all the kids off of all the teams you mention, the 08 team had a dominant line, fullback and tailback, a good game managing qb and average at best recievers. They also had an outstanding D. My opinion of this years team is held by more then one of the guys standing on that sideline. The qb this year is as talented as any we have had since 87'. He is an amazing athlete with a great arm, as long as his decisions stay solid we will be fine. This years team has a potentially strong line, Busby/Tolliver at tackles are very good, Sigler/Helser at guard are outstanding, center and depth is where we lack experience. You are right in the fact that buzz is probably our best O lineman, he is not our best defensive lineman, that distinction belongs to Phipps who did not play the other night. Buzz has a frame and athletic ability that are warranting looks from D 1 schools. Our tailbacks are young with the exception of Ellars and whoever is telling you he is gonna be the man is mistaken. Great kid but lacks the physical ability of VanWinkle/Fouch/Connor Smith. Sweeney at Fullback is very, very good with the ball in his hands. Not your typical fullback. The recievers are outstanding this year, likely the best group I've seen there since Simon Mills/Timmy Rhodes and company. Horse is a freak athlete, Crane is an outstanding athlete with great hands and blocks as well, sweeney splits out and is a great athlete, Shumar may well be the fastest kid on the team. The D is very good as well. This came From the mouth of a current assistant coach who has been there awhile, "we have a chance to be really, really good this season and make a big run in the playoffs."
That was a mouthful, I'm not taking anything away from any previous teams we have had, just stating that Sheridan will be very successful this season. I also think that Logan will end up having a solid year, they have a quaility coaching staff and some athletes. Also, this years team will be much improved over last year, which you stated they would not be, based on the fact that outside of Drew Carpenter and Tyler Cremeans, they didn't lose much. All of these kids played big roles on last years 8-2 team. I can't believe we had such a down season lol.

[DRIFTER]

Oh yes, we know alot of the kids and coaches as well. You see there is 4 of us discussing this and reading this, three from Sheridan one Logan. All 4 also know the coaches and kids. Some of our kids and my grandsons played with Sheridan kids, are friends with them. Two have sons that palyed on the 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 teams. All of us have heard different comments from the same folks. Funny how if you have a " brother, or son playing they are always better that year! Heck they are better than undefeated teams that finish ranked number one in the state, their kids are the best ever, and certainly better than " average at best kids" QB'S that can manage a game, didn't pass for td's, run for td's? God knows they are better than kids that start for two or three years, make all district and all league a couple years, you know average kids. Kids they set the bench behind for a couple years.

Now we know you have a " dog in the fight" but cmon man, get real. I remember watching that 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 teams and in our scrimmage. The 2007 and 2008 teams were loaded. They had receivers that could fly, them and Mayes went at it all day, it was fun to watch. their DB'S looked physical, were physical and very quick. Backs and slot backs, receivers blocked down the field all night. Two Big fast linebackers, and a very big solid line. Very good TE, and QB. What I and others seen in the scrimmage did not come close to the past few teams, sorry but it was not close. Now we all have coached and played a little, and share the same feelings as most all of I talked to. This Sheridan group looked small, no where near as quick, fast, or athletic as past. The recievers may have good hands, I always remember Sheridan teams with receivers that would come down with the ball but the receivers I watched out there in the scrimmage are not close in speed or quickness to the guys Sheridan has had the past 3 -4 years not even close.

One thing for sure, you gonna find out. With that weak schedule you should be fine, but before you go and build a statue of this team you are close to, go undefeated, get ranked #1 in the State of Ohio, , have some of your kids this year earn the All League, All District, All State honors ect. that the kids on the past teams did. Then I guess you can compare and talk facts! Hey we do you hope you end up with a Great Season, good luck and stay healthy, looked like you only dressed I beleive 34 players, stay healthy!

Had to jump back on after someone noticed something you said. Now it is more obvious you have a few your close to and that is ok. You only lost two key players? How about Golden, All League, All District, Lineman and LB, Kyle Phiefer { best player} All League, All District, LB, Tailback, Kyle Carpenter safety, Drew Abrams, two year starter and played in All Star game. Garth Hall, FB, LB. As well as Cremeans and Carpenter. Let me ask you something, if this group is so good, why did they sit the bench behind those kids for so long?

Im done with this stupid argument, and really do wish Sheridan the best. The comments about beating Logan in a scrimmage with all your starters out, doing what you wanted, when you wanted, and then the advertising campain, and comparing this group to the past great teams at Sheridan just ruffled my feathers. It is funny though.

[newlex/sheridan]

You are sadly mistaken if you think this group doesn't have athletes. Read the preview and coach culvers comments today and then tell me what you think. He clearly states they are very skilled and talented, his only worry is depth and toughness the last of which he laments every season even though his teams are tougher then just about any you will find.

[DRIFTER]

I thought this was over. Ok, I will take the bait one more time. NO ONE said Sheridan didn't have talent or skill, they always do, they are Sheridan. The arguments started after you attempted to promote a player and team you happen to be very close to. Then you threw out a couple of comments that anyone who has watched HS football and area football would find ignorant at best! But you are very close to this we know. Example, you wanted to promote someone so you labled them the best recievers in years at Sheridan, refered to the Sheridan recievers of 2007-2008 as "average at best" Now I tell you, everyone got a nice laugh out of that comment. I wont mention names on here as you do in this argument, it is not fair to the kids. But here are some "facts" i got while being up in Sheridan land and talking with a few players and parents from that 2007 and 2008 teams. One of the recievers you mentioned as the best in years as the preview you like to refer to mentioned, had 8 receptions for a whopping 78 yards in 2009 and he is the leading returning reciever. What is that, less than a reception per game, 9 yards a catch?

What I found out- ONE of the recievers you mentioned from the 2008 team which started 3 years, made All League, All District twice, started at reciever in the MVL/Licking County All Star game, averaged over 24 yards per reception, and had more yards several times on ONE reception than the reciever you want to promote on here had ALL year, and was a excellent down field blocker, and a very vital part of that undefeated teams success! But in trying to promote someone close to you, you label those recievers " average at best" Now I wont get into this too much on here but what was said to me by those that played right along with the two you want to promote is that the other reciever and the TE were both much better than the two you promote on here! Even laughed and said that the one could proboly out run both of the recievers backwards! This is pretty much what most who saw the scrimmage seen, yes no doubt proboly good athletes but certainly not in the same class as the speedy, take it all the way recievers of the past few years. And as I said before, I dont care how far you go back Sheridan has always had recievers that will go get the ball and come down with it.

As far as comments in the preview, typical Culver, very classy, reserved and honest. Did mention skilled, i agree, mentioned how much work they still needed and looking for a reliable LB. Great comment on QB and what i seen and have heard he is very special. That boy that was the QB on the 2008 team was special as well. He led his team to a undefeated reg season, MVL Champions and number one in the state ranking! Bottom line this years team should be very successful with that schedule and a nice group of kids, but the only area they are better than the past few teams is the QB and kicking game.

Good Luck Sheridan, I am sure you will burn out alot of light bulbs on the scoreboard tonight against Lakewood.

[newlex/sheridan]

Haha man it didn't take much to get your goat, by the way the numbers the TR posted for that reciever were from the Tri-Valley game last season and I'm pretty sure Horse caught more balls then taco last year, they didn't mention him since he isn't a senior. The reciever you speak of from 08' was a very fast wide out and did a great job. He is faster then the two this season, not as strong or athletic as them though an had the benefit of being on a team with no other recieving threat. He only started his junior and senior seasons. Treg was a great leader, not as talented as CJ but did an excellent job. You obviously have a son/grandson/relative on that team. I agree they were outstanding. I am saying that this years team is better then last years team, not that one. That team was special. I do believe that this one has more natural athletes other then Crader and Carpy of course. That team was smart, tough and outstanding. I can't spell it out for you anymore, we have a great education system so I know if you went there you did learn to read lol. Relax.

[purple pride 2008]

new lex sheridan, hey man be nice to your elders, you going to give drifter a stroke. just funnin ya man. ok here we go. i do know all of these players you are discussing, and have up close knowledge. i am pickin no side. i do agree with new lex sheridan that this years team has plenty natural athletes. they have basketball players and we all know basketball players are the best athletes. dont know too many people with drifters knowledge of the game and god knows he has seen about all the area teams and players forever and coached most at one time or place. taco and horse are great athletes. i cant agree with them being stronger than denny if that is who you are talkin about from 2008 team. matter of fact i would bet money on that. he was like super strong in the legs and could jump, real good athelete too. also thank he was bigger built than crane, about 175-180? i thank horse is more of a tight end than receiver. the only weakness on the 2008 team was that they only had denny at receiver no other threat at all. but honestly of all you mentioned he was the best true receiver of all of them. him and that balser was two of the fastest kids i ever seen at sheridan and quick sharp moves. gotta go with the 2008 receiver as the best overall receiver but i thank new lex sheridan was tryin to say this is the best receiving corp they have had in a while and gotta agree with that. as far as qb gotta agree with new lex sheridan again this years qb much better than the 2008 qb as far as overall talent. this team over last year, i dont know this years team doesnt have the take it to the house guy they did in 2008 and 2007 but really cremeans wasnt that guy either he was just tough and had great field vision. i dont thank last years or this years team is any where near as good as the 2008 team but really good any way. you wont see too many bad sheridan teams. peace out.

[Blackjack]

Logan starts a downhill spiral. Lower grades are average at best. The man that held it all together is gone. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chieftains go 5-5 this year.

Closer to Logan football than you think.