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mother_nature wrote:I assume you are a Burg fan orange and black...for your info Ridgewood is a lock with a win in week 10. They played the same schedule this year as last year with the exception of Trail/Shadyside and won the region, beating 2 SOC schools, 1 of which beat the Burg as did the Freddies.
Now, can they do that again? Who knows, but I wouldnt count them out thats for sure.

Were talking about this year not last, and strength of schedule.
you are right about last year! but this is a new year? ridgewood's
schedule is weak. If they win! because they still have to play
the game they will be a low seeded team that was the point
being made in other post's and comparing the freddie's schedule
because region 19 as of right now is SOC dominated it doesn't mean
that Ridgewood will beat 2 soc teams this year or the Freddie's...


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I dont think Id be happy with a week 11 matchup against Ridgewood, no matter what thier regular season slate shows you


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Drew Pasteur has Fredericktown's strength of schedule ranked 44 in D5. By comparison, Wheelersburg's is 35th which is the highest among R19 playoff contenders. Ridgewood's is 103.

IMO, strength of schedule is not as important as most on these websites think it is. I don't buy into the whole "battle tested" theory. I think a weak schedule hides the fact that you may not have playoff caliber talent on your team, and that more than anything gets exposed come week 11. But in the end talent wins out. Ridgewood's schedule was as weak last year as this year, but they were region champs. R'wood could have lined up 5 of the toughest teams around, and the result probably would have been the same: R19 champs and blown out by Urine. Playing a bunch of tough teams gives a higher risk of injury, so you may be limping into the playoffs.


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I drain 3's wrote:Selonmc, was that you that brought up Caldwell/Shenandoah being moved? I don't know if you've been on there lately, but I just read a post on the other site that said Barnesville and Shadyside will be week 10, which would keep Caldwell/Shenandoah week 10. I also heard that Beallsville is dropping Caldwell after this year. Don't know who we'll be picking up.
That's good. Just would seem weird not seeing Caldwell v. Shenandoah in week 10. It would be like moving OSU/Michigan.

Sucks about Beallsville dropping you, but that's what they do over there. In their defense, there are rumblings that they might be picking up River, and that's a series I'm all for. Too bad it's at Caldwell's expense if that is the game they're picking up.


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NY Buckeyes and Oak Hill Oaks are the 2 from this region that have any chance in the playoffs! w"burg is not very strong this year , Minford is weak and Lucasville can play in the SOC but that is it. Coal Grove is and easy "one and done" like always.


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I hope you arent serious with that statement footballcrazy...if so..thats just crazy!


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w'burg is not as strong thats true , they are good but dont think they will make a run. lucasville and coal grove never wins in the playoffs CG hasnt been in round 2 since i think on ohsaa since 1993 that is 17 years !! Okks are not as talented as last year but I think the chemistry might be right for them this year. NY has a State championship and has made playoff runs they do not get intimidated like some schools. So why is that so crazy?


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footballcrazy wrote:w'burg is not as strong thats true , they are good but dont think they will make a run. lucasville and coal grove never wins in the playoffs CG hasnt been in round 2 since i think on ohsaa since 1993 that is 17 years !! Okks are not as talented as last year but I think the chemistry might be right for them this year. NY has a State championship and has made playoff runs they do not get intimidated like some schools. So why is that so crazy?
Wow u are crazy u need to watch all these teams play


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^^ NY can't compete with Burg, this year or most years. NY has history and a good program but not on the level with the Burg. NY and CG would be a good matchup this year, imo. Valley, OH, Burg, and probably Freddies are much better than NY.


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JChipwood wrote:^^ NY can't compete with Burg, this year or most years. NY has history and a good program but not on the level with the Burg. NY and CG would be a good matchup this year, imo. Valley, OH, Burg, and probably Freddies are much better than NY.
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OH & Burg may be better than they were last year. So saying Burg isn't strong and Oak Hill isn't as talented only tells me you haven't seen either one of them play. Should be interesting, I'll guess we'll find out soon enough.


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footballcrazy wrote:NY Buckeyes and Oak Hill Oaks are the 2 from this region that have any chance in the playoffs! w"burg is not very strong this year , Minford is weak and Lucasville can play in the SOC but that is it. Coal Grove is and easy "one and done" like always.
Probably one of the dumbest comments of the year right there.


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I'm not going to say that NY is one of only 2 teams in the region that can go any where, Thats just crazy IMHO, but I will say that an NY burg matchup is likely in the first round and I think NY can win that game. Burg plays a tough schedule and they are always ready come playoff time. I guess we will soon find out who can compete with who.


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I knew I wasnt the only one who thought that was a crazy statement lol


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Orange_N_Black_Fan your opinion on Fredricktown is on pure speculation. Last year they lost a lot of talent and their league has some weak teams in it. I work up here in the middle of knox county and those I talked to thought this year would be down a little this year from last. All of the people I know that have seen them play, both Fredricktown supporters and non-supporters say the same thing. They think this years team is stronger than last years team. I guess time and a few weeks of playoff football will tell.


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Orange_N_Black_Fan wrote:
55Buckeyes98 wrote:IMO the Freddies are better than last year... more balance on Offense (dependent on QB last year). Their defense is pretty solid as well, prob better than last year
Not by that schedule their not, they are a young team by
looking at last years roster, not that much experience and
this will prove costly come playoff time.
Just ask some good teams around the area what it's like to
blow somebody off the field every week until they get there
teeth kicked out the last couple weeks of the season,
teams rolling up scores all year long until they actually play
a good team that has already played some competition, it
makes all the difference in the world come block buster time.
I know this if the freddie's would have played some caliber teams
like in the SOC II they would not be undefeated right now.
Look at Ridgewood for example if they go undefeated and the chips
don't land right they could be setting home week 11, what's wrong with
this picture and the freddie's schedule is not that much stronger!!
As we always do come playoff time we will see how good these teams
really were in regular season..
Freddies return the core of that team from last year. Their So. running back is better than anyone they had on that team last year. Their Defense is a lot better than last year. They are much more balanced on Offense as well. They return almost all of their O & Dline and are senior oriented. IMO they have played 3 playoff caliber teams and knocked two of them out or playoffs (Johnstown & Utica), and pulled out a rivalry game vs. Highland that woke Freddies up for the rest of the season. Any teams in SE ohio that want to test yourselves against MBC schools please have your coaches call our ADs we could use the points that you get from weak schedules. I played in the TVC and played against Wheelersburg in 97/98 and we have a lot of respect for what teams like Ironton and 'burg have done. But, Look at Alexander for example who will make the playoffs in DIV R15 but would be 4-6 or worse if they played the same schedule as Johnstown. Johnstown, Utica, and Fredericktown would run the table in the SOC in my opinion. But all we can do is talk and the only game we can compare is when Johnstown beat Minford 30-0 and then the next year lost to Ready by 3 who beat Portsmouth West handily the next week. DP has Johnstown ranked 6th in region 15 based on teams they beat (beat Granville who will beat Newark Catholic on Saturday to finish 7-3 with losses to Licking Valley, Heath, & Jtown... lost to R15 runner up Heath by 6 and despite a slow start almost pulled off the upset... lost to undefeated Freddies, but the game was close until the end, and lost to a Utica team by 2 that finally got healthy and lost to Granville, Heath, East Knox, all without their QB at full strength (EK without him at all) and Freddies. IMO Johnstown needs to change their OOC opponents. They scheduled Heath when Jtown was DV and in a different region than Heath, I would like to see them replace Heath and Lakewood if Heath and Jtown are in the same region and drop Lakewood and pick up a team from the MSL, Westfall's league, or further south. Jtown loses some core seniors, but with as many juniors and sophomores coming back I think they will win the MBC and will have tough games against Granville & Heath, but should win one if not both games. Pick up a winnable game week 3 against a team that doesn't only beat Millersport and you have a team that would host round one or compete for #1 seed in region 15 or 19 if they drop back down.
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55buckeyes you had me at the beginning but lost me towards the end. Take a deep breathe and slow down.


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I edited the post


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nerkfan wrote:Orange_N_Black_Fan your opinion on Fredricktown is on pure speculation. Last year they lost a lot of talent and their league has some weak teams in it. I work up here in the middle of knox county and those I talked to thought this year would be down a little this year from last. All of the people I know that have seen them play, both Fredricktown supporters and non-supporters say the same thing. They think this years team is stronger than last years team. I guess time and a few weeks of playoff football will tell.

Well said, Time will tell.....


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Bleeding Red wrote:
footballcrazy wrote:NY Buckeyes and Oak Hill Oaks are the 2 from this region that have any chance in the playoffs! w"burg is not very strong this year , Minford is weak and Lucasville can play in the SOC but that is it. Coal Grove is and easy "one and done" like always.
Probably one of the dumbest comments of the year right there.

AGREE....


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