River Valley School Board to Vote in Dec on joining TVC

[NYBuckeye96]

Here is a general timeline for Nelsonville-York:

Late '60s - 2,100 students
Early '80s - 1,700 students
Mid '90s - 1,500 students
Today - 1,300 students

[crebman1]

HeavyD...Its not NY consolidation with Trimble. Its Trimble. Nothing would change at NY.

No, if they are forced to consolidate it involves both schools. That is not going to happen, but if the state did force it to happen there will be changes at Nelsonville, and Trimble. Different school, different name, different teachers, and different coaches. Those with seniority will stay.

I don't think seniority has anything to do with it. I know when Nelsonville and York consolidated, the longtime Nelsonville Superintendent became Asst. Superintendent for NY even though he had more seniority than the York Superintendent, who became the NY Superintendent. What I don't know is if he agreed to that arrangement.

Dave Boston Sr became football coach for NY and he only had 1 year of football coaching duties for the Greyhounds before the consolidation. I don't know how long the York coach had been there.

If it was a different name, I think it would just be Nelsonville. NY is the only city school district in the state that doesn't go simply by the name of the city. When Athens, The Plains and Chauncey consolidated, it was still Athens High School. When Logan and the majority of Hocking County consolidated, it was still Logan.

Concerning the Superintendent at the time of consolidation....5 school board members elected with 3 being from York and 2 from Nelsonville. Who the Super was was determined along strict district affiliations. Hillyer (York) 3 votes, Gray (Nelsonville) 2 votes.

Concerning football coach - I believe that York was only playing a JV type schedule at time of consolidation while Nelsonville was obviously playing a varsity schedule. Boston was really the only varsity football coach.

[mister b]

I will say this! The SEOAL has a lot of history, but it is just history! If it sticks around then great!! If it disbands then great! If Logan and Chille decide to go to the MSL then I don't see the SEOAL being around . Jackson already tried to sneak out the back door, Warren won't be a SEOAL member for long.

Im wondering why TVC posters say they dont want GAHS and Jackson but would take Warren when the fact of the matter is Warren is consistently in the running for the SEOAL All-Sports trophy every single year.

If Athens has dominated the TVC since joining, Warren is stronger across the board than Athens and even GAHS and Jackson. Apparently you are letting football cloud your judgment concerning the strength and consistency of the ENTIRE Warren athletic program; both girls and boys.

If the SEOAL shrinks to four schools, I look for the TVC to take GAHS, Jackson, and Warren without a problem, but they will put us in our own separate division along with NY, Athens, Vinton Co and perhaps Alex or Meigs, depending on how many teams they need to balance out the divisions.

Personally, in the event we drop to four schools, I hope the league tries to stay together anyway.

I hate even the thought of this possibility, but it seems to keep cropping up.

Warren was 1 vote shy of the 75% needed to join the TVC. Jackson was 3 short.

I don't personally see a problem with Warren, Jackson or Gallia joining the TVC IF it was done right. This would be enough teams to form 3 divisons based on enrollment.

With the TVC having an odd number of teams in the Hocking, it is causing all sorts of problems in football scheduling. Adding RV to the Ohio, which already has an even number of teams, will cause the very same headaches in football for the Ohio that the Hocking has.

Also, the Hocking has gotten to inflated with the number of teams it has. Other sports have very little room in their schedules to play local nonconference games that have been historically good money makers.

My own personal feeling is that 6 teams in a conference or division works best for the TVC. This would give you 50% of your schedule each towards conference and nonconference games. With 3 divisions of 6 teams, the TVC could easily encourage it members to play crossover games against other league members of the other divisions and not count them in the conference standings.

The TVC will have to do something and get an even number of teams in each division. This may mean adding 2 more schools or moving 1 school up or down, which I don't think you will find any takers on the moving option.

[mister b]

What day is the RV school board meeting to vote on this?

According to their website, the next regular scheduled BOE meeting is 12-13-10 @ 7pm.

[BlizzardMan]

I am excited about this move. This is where we belong. I hope it also leads to a regular season rivalry between RV and South Gallia (heard it could be possible)! I can't wait to start league play!

[thirtyonetrap]

River Valley needs to be in the hocking. Is this possible?

[Orange and Brown]

River Valley needs to be in the hocking. Is this possible?

You want to put a D-4 school in a division with 7 d-6 schools and 2 d-5 schools. WOW!!!! That would really make your program stronger.

[bobcatfan4728]

River Valley needs to be in the hocking. Is this possible?

You want to put a D-4 school in a division with 7 d-6 schools and 2 d-5 schools. WOW!!!! That would really make your program stronger.

Why not put NY in the hocking if your worried about school size?

[NYBuckeye96]

The Hocking already has too many teams as it is. Belpre and Federal Hocking will most likely fall to D6 status after the next head count, and then all of the Hocking schools will be D6.

I don't ever see the day NY joins the Hocking. NY will always be in the Ohio, unless a third division is created, but even then, NY might stay in the big school division.

[Orange and Brown]

River Valley needs to be in the hocking. Is this possible?

You want to put a D-4 school in a division with 7 d-6 schools and 2 d-5 schools. WOW!!!! That would really make your program stronger.

Why not put NY in the hocking if your worried about school size?

Why would NY want to play in a division with a bunch of D-6 schools? Thats just crazy.

[shoelace]

What does River Valley's non-conference look like in the future?

[NYBuckeye96]

I would think that River Valley would play many of the OVC schools for non-league games when they move to the TVC. Otherwise, they would have to travel very far for opponents. Probably some SOC schools in the mix as well.

[Orange and Brown]

I hope this move is what RV needs to build up some of there sports. There basketball team seems pretty decent this year but most years you never hear much about RV athletics winning much.

[NYBuckeye96]

I think RV athletics would have been better off had the Raiders joined the TVC after the school district was created. RV was voted into the TVC back in the early 90s when the school was created, but RV opted to join the SEOAL instead to be in the same league as Gallia Academy.

When RV left the SEOAL, the Raiders wanted in the TVC, but the TVC turned them down by one vote. The Raiders then joined the OVC, an otherwise all Lawrence County league.

There is no way of knowing if the Raiders would have won more championships in the TVC than the SEOAL or OVC, but RV would certainly have built up established rivalries over the past two decades in the TVC instead of being the "red headed step child" in every league it has been in so far.

Even if RV doesn't dominate any sport in the TVC, they will certainly have some real rivalries develop. Meigs, Wellston and Vinton County will be very natural geographic rivals. And the Athens County schools are reasonably close, with NY being the longest trip. Athens was a former league rival for RV in the SEOAL, and Alexander isn't too long of a drive. I think some real rivalries can develop here.

[Raiderball]

I think RV athletics would have been better off had the Raiders joined the TVC after the school district was created. RV was voted into the TVC back in the early 90s when the school was created, but RV opted to join the SEOAL instead to be in the same league as Gallia Academy.

When RV left the SEOAL, the Raiders wanted in the TVC, but the TVC turned them down by one vote. The Raiders then joined the OVC, an otherwise all Lawrence County league.

There is no way of knowing if the Raiders would have won more championships in the TVC than the SEOAL or OVC, but RV would certainly have built up established rivalries over the past two decades in the TVC instead of being the "red headed step child" in every league it has been in so far.

Even if RV doesn't dominate any sport in the TVC, they will certainly have some real rivalries develop. Meigs, Wellston and Vinton County will be very natural geographic rivals. And the Athens County schools are reasonably close, with NY being the longest trip. Athens was a former league rival for RV in the SEOAL, and Alexander isn't too long of a drive. I think some real rivalries can develop here.

Just what I have said... many times. I had no connection to RV at that time so I won't say anything else on here.

The OVC was gracious enough to accept RV into the conference when the Raiders had nowhere else to go (beginning 2002-2003) school year. VB and XC have had the most success in the OVC both winning conference championships. Wrestling has also faired well although I don't think the OVC recognizes a champion due to lack of schools sponsoring teams. Until the last 3 yrs boys basketball finished 2nd or 3rd every year. Not certain but I think track has had a few individual champions. FB has 1 maybe 2 finishes in top half of conference (02 for sure and maybe 03). Golf usually middle of pack. Not sure about softball. Baseball hasn't faired well at all.

Maybe a change in leagues will help but I personally think it will take much more than that. Too many people still thinking like the days of the old SVAC. That might work for SG (in no way is that meant as a slam on SG) just because they are about the same size school as before consolidation. For RV, the mindset has to change. That starts at the top, through the school system to the parents and athletes. IMO, until that mindset changes.....

[BRUTUS IS A BEAST]

I would like to see RV join the Hocking, maybe that will get some wins under there belt every year witch will probably get them more athletes enrolled in school. After that they can move up a division to better theirselves jmo

[Heavy D]

Yes join the Hocking and keep the rutter and the river rat coaching the two main boys sports. One comes from a rich football tradition and the other from a rich basketball tradition, and that will help them become successful in the new environment.

[NYBuckeye96]

The Hocking has 9 teams. The Ohio has 6 teams. I think the point of any expansion would be to balance the divisions. I don't know of any other league in the state that has such lopsided divisions in terms of the number of teams in one division over another in the same conference.

[Blue_nd_Gray]

I would like to see RV join the Hocking, maybe that will get some wins under there belt every year witch will probably get them more athletes enrolled in school. After that they can move up a division to better theirselves jmo

Trust me if RV joins and joins the hocking division they will own it in 3-4 years.

they have had some down times but they have great classes coming i mean loaded! There are 20 some boys on the 8th grade basketball team!

[Blue_nd_Gray]

I think RV athletics would have been better off had the Raiders joined the TVC after the school district was created. RV was voted into the TVC back in the early 90s when the school was created, but RV opted to join the SEOAL instead to be in the same league as Gallia Academy.

When RV left the SEOAL, the Raiders wanted in the TVC, but the TVC turned them down by one vote. The Raiders then joined the OVC, an otherwise all Lawrence County league.

There is no way of knowing if the Raiders would have won more championships in the TVC than the SEOAL or OVC, but RV would certainly have built up established rivalries over the past two decades in the TVC instead of being the "red headed step child" in every league it has been in so far.

Even if RV doesn't dominate any sport in the TVC, they will certainly have some real rivalries develop. Meigs, Wellston and Vinton County will be very natural geographic rivals. And the Athens County schools are reasonably close, with NY being the longest trip. Athens was a former league rival for RV in the SEOAL, and Alexander isn't too long of a drive. I think some real rivalries can develop here.

Just what I have said... many times. I had no connection to RV at that time so I won't say anything else on here.

The OVC was gracious enough to accept RV into the conference when the Raiders had nowhere else to go (beginning 2002-2003) school year. VB and XC have had the most success in the OVC both winning conference championships. Wrestling has also faired well although I don't think the OVC recognizes a champion due to lack of schools sponsoring teams. Until the last 3 yrs boys basketball finished 2nd or 3rd every year. Not certain but I think track has had a few individual champions. FB has 1 maybe 2 finishes in top half of conference (02 for sure and maybe 03). Golf usually middle of pack. Not sure about softball. Baseball hasn't faired well at all.

Maybe a change in leagues will help but I personally think it will take much more than that. Too many people still thinking like the days of the old SVAC. That might work for SG (in no way is that meant as a slam on SG) just because they are about the same size school as before consolidation. For RV, the mindset has to change. That starts at the top, through the school system to the parents and athletes. IMO, until that mindset changes.....

SGis a good bit bigger than hannan trace was,on average hannan trace graduated 3-5 kids south gallia is turning out around 50 so quite a size difference.