River Valley School Board to Vote in Dec on joining TVC

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A-Town Big Dog wrote:
55Buckeyes98 wrote:
Orange and Brown wrote:might look something like this if Logan and Chilli go to the MSL.

BIG DIVISION

Athens
Warren
Nelsonville-York
Vinton County
Gallia
Meigs


MEDIUM DIVISION

Alexander
River Valley
Wellston
Federal Hocking
Belpre
Trimble

SMALL DIVISION

Eastern
Miller
Southern
South Gallia
Waterford
Wahama


It could look like that, then again it could look completly different.
Would Alex be willing to switch with NY in other sports besides football & maybe even wrestling? That would be best for NY I would think
This is exactlly why any possible realignment shoud be based on enrollment numbers. We shouldn't have schools flip-flopping around from sport to sport, a league and or division should include the same teams across the board. N-Y can schedule upper division teams in the "non conference" and still end up with pretty much the same schedule in football and would benefit more in other sports but they seem to have the little brother complex and think people will disrespect them or something if they aren't in the upper division. Alexander across the board is a better fit with the schools mentioned as possibilities for a third division in nearly every other sport. Meigs may be the school that gets the least benefit from realignment but from a football standpoint they allready play Warren, Athens, V/C, and Alex and I'm sure a game against one of the other schools wouldn't bother them either.
If Gallia moves into the tvc the will dominate it in football!


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Blue_nd_Gray wrote:
BRUTUS IS A BEAST wrote:I would like to see RV join the Hocking, maybe that will get some wins under there belt every year witch will probably get them more athletes enrolled in school. After that they can move up a division to better theirselves jmo
Trust me if RV joins and joins the hocking division they will own it in 3-4 years.

they have had some down times but they have great classes coming i mean loaded! There are 20 some boys on the 8th grade basketball team!

Yeah but how many times do them kids actually enroll at river valley and not ditch RV for Gallia, Meigs, ect. I just was thinking that if you start winning some games and maybe be a league contender that you will actually enroll the kids that you should get based on location


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I don't see any reason for Gallia to move into playing teams every year that takes up half of the schedule and not really bettering them at all in the playoff picture


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Congratulations to River Valley for being voted into the TVC. They can finally establish some natural rivalries instead of driving to Lawrence county for every game. The administration would be crazy to turn down the invitation IMO. As someone earlier mentioned they should have joined this league when the school district was formed.



As for the SEOAL Gallia Academy and Jackson are not going to the TVC. There is no support for this from either community. Jackson's administration acted alone when they applied to the TVC, and I understand many in the community were not happy about it. The TVC is just not a good move for either school's football programs. If Warren wants to go to the TVC that's fine. They are kind of out on an island by themselves now that Marietta is gone. The TVC schools better think long and hard about voting for that move though. If Warren is admitted someone should look into re-naming the TVC the WAVC. Because the Warren and Athens Valley Conference is essentially what the league will become.

The MSL hasn't even mentioned expansion in a year. If they do expand and Logan and Chillicothe are on their radar ok. Although who is to say that Chillicothe would even leave. Chillicothe and Portsmouth are pretty big rivals in every sport, and Chillicothe is not as big as they once were. Logan would probably enjoy the bigger and closer rivals, but then again they have 80+ years in the SEOAL. If Logan and Chillicothe do leave I just hope Gallia Academy, Jackson, and Portsmouth stick together in whatever or wherever their fates may be. If the current members stay together minus Warren it still makes for a decent 5 team league. If it comes to that the SEOAL probably looks for a 6th member. Athens would probably be the best geographic choice, but I'm sure they are enjoying filling up their trophy case too much to come back to the SEOAL. Another good choice would be independent Ironton which isn't a horrible trip for anyone except Logan. I don't think they would get any votes from any of the schools not named Portsmouth though. After leaving the SEOAL for a 3rd time I think the league members are done with them. Besides that they like being independent, and telling everyone how great their schedule is.


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Blue_nd_Gray wrote:
BRUTUS IS A BEAST wrote:I would like to see RV join the Hocking, maybe that will get some wins under there belt every year witch will probably get them more athletes enrolled in school. After that they can move up a division to better theirselves jmo
Trust me if RV joins and joins the hocking division they will own it in 3-4 years.

they have had some down times but they have great classes coming i mean loaded! There are 20 some boys on the 8th grade basketball team!
YES! And everyone knowa having bunches of unskilled athletes means lots of wins..... :lol:


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Titletown TVC wrote:
Blue_nd_Gray wrote:
BRUTUS IS A BEAST wrote:I would like to see RV join the Hocking, maybe that will get some wins under there belt every year witch will probably get them more athletes enrolled in school. After that they can move up a division to better theirselves jmo
Trust me if RV joins and joins the hocking division they will own it in 3-4 years.

they have had some down times but they have great classes coming i mean loaded! There are 20 some boys on the 8th grade basketball team!
YES! And everyone knowa having bunches of unskilled athletes means lots of wins..... :lol:
Thats a little bit over the line there...WOW!
I'm not sure why a grown person would say that about a group of kids.


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The TVC trying to follow college football and create a super conference or something? lol


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River Valley, as of Wednesday, is now an official member of the TVC.

http://mydailytribune.com/view/full_sto ... eft_column


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WELCOME RIVER VALLEY!!!!!!


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congrats


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What are the chances of Wahama getting voted into the Ohio after next year? We may be trying to drum up some competition in the next few years.


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NYBuckeye96 wrote:I think RV athletics would have been better off had the Raiders joined the TVC after the school district was created. RV was voted into the TVC back in the early 90s when the school was created, but RV opted to join the SEOAL instead to be in the same league as Gallia Academy.

When RV left the SEOAL, the Raiders wanted in the TVC, but the TVC turned them down by one vote. The Raiders then joined the OVC, an otherwise all Lawrence County league.

There is no way of knowing if the Raiders would have won more championships in the TVC than the SEOAL or OVC, but RV would certainly have built up established rivalries over the past two decades in the TVC instead of being the "red headed step child" in every league it has been in so far.

Even if RV doesn't dominate any sport in the TVC, they will certainly have some real rivalries develop. Meigs, Wellston and Vinton County will be very natural geographic rivals. And the Athens County schools are reasonably close, with NY being the longest trip. Athens was a former league rival for RV in the SEOAL, and Alexander isn't too long of a drive. I think some real rivalries can develop here.
I believe that the Raiders turned down the TVC the first time, was accepted a second time and failed to respond and then were turned down the third time. The second time was a huge mistake on RV's part. Needless to say the OVC has been a disaster. I am very glad to see that this is working out.


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Interesting how the move will wait until the fall of 2014. This gives the TVC plenty of time to figure out how it wants to grow.

Coincidently, that will also give the SEOAL enough time to figure out what it will evolve into if Logan and Chillicothe do go to the MSL.


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MightyWhiteFalcon wrote:What are the chances of Wahama getting voted into the Ohio after next year? We may be trying to drum up some competition in the next few years.
I don't what the chances would be. Wahama would have to ask to move and then be aproved by vote.


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Here is the text to the article........

http://mydailytribune.com/view/full_sto ... eft_column
Raiders joining TVC Ohio for 2014-15 school year
by Sarah Hawley

ATHENS, Ohio — River Valley High School was officially accepted into the Tri Valley Conference at the league’s monthly meeting held on Wednesday.

The Raiders were unanimously voted into the TVC Ohio Division by 14 current members of the Tri Valley Conference. The 15th current member school was absent for the vote.

River Valley will begin play in the league in the fall of 2014. There had been discussions among league members of River Valley joining the league in the fall of 2012 in all sports except football, but the Raiders would have been forced to play two seasons as an independent football program, a difficult scheduling task in the area
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The Raiders will become the 16th member of the Tri Valley Conference. Current Ohio Division members are Alexander, Athens, Meigs, Nelsonville-York, Vinton County, and Wellston. Hocking Division members are Belpre, Eastern, Federal Hocking, Miller, South Gallia, Southern, Trimble, Waterford, and Wahama.

With the acceptance of River Valley, there will be seven Ohio Division schools and nine Hocking Division schools. The uneven scheduling numbers are an obstacle to be worked out in the nearly four years before the Raiders begin league play.

In the interim, River Valley will continue play in the Ohio Valley Conference against opponents Chesapeake, Coal Grove, Fairland, Rock Hill, and South Point.

This will the third conference in the history of River Valley High School. The Raiders were a member of the SEOAL beginning in the fall of 1992 when the school was founded. In the fall of 2002, River Valley became a member of the mostly Lawrence County based OVC.


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If River Valley's enrollment declines at its current pace over recent years, the Raiders could be a Division V school by the time they join the TVC.


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Last I heard from a source close to the situation. Once River Valley joins the Ohio will stay at 7 teams and the Hocking at 9. The reasons are due to enrollment numbers and competition. One option is to move Fed. Hock to the Ohio due to them being the biggest school in the Hocking. But, they already struggle in the Hocking and don't want to move. Belpre could also go back to the Ohio. But, they are happier in the Hocking. And, Trimble although they would compete well in the Ohio most years are too small.


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Both Belpre and Federal Hocking will most likely move down to D6 after the next count. It doesn't make sense for any of the Hocking schools to move to the Ohio.

I doubt any Hocking school wants in the Ohio anyways. If Trimble, Federal Hocking, or anyone else had any urge to join the Ohio, they would have petitioned to do so by now. They have had since 1993 to make such a move and it's never come up once in nearly two decades.

Also, if you look at the enrollment numbers in the lower grades at most Hocking schools, they are even lower than the current high school enrollment numbers. The schools are still shrinking in size throughout the region, so no Hocking school really has the numbers to make the case for being in the Ohio. I think Trimble's elementary numbers are so low that they would reflect Waterford-like numbers by the time those kids get to high school in the coming years.


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I would be totally shocked if any Hocking school would move to the Ohio. Federal was asked a few years ago and they said no. Belpre was asked very recently about going back to the Ohio and the answer was no. These would be the only 2 schools that could possibly move to the Ohio as the TVC wants the divisions to be based on enrollment numbers.

I would also be very surprised that RV with 190 boys would end up in the Hocking when they enter the TVC. Their numbers may be declining but I don't think they will fall below NY's enrollment figures, the current smallest school in the Ohio.

That brings us to a 3rd option, NY to the Hocking. Based on enrollment, it would make sense since this would give each division the even numbers they need. However, NY isn't going to the Hocking because they don't want to. I can't see any school being forced to go to a division they don't want to be in. Also, schools will not play in 1 division in 1 sport and in another division in another sport so that idea can be thrown out.

I go back to my earlier thoughts that there are a couple of more schools in the shadows who are considering petitioning the TVC for membership. I would not be surprised to see 2 more schools join by the time RV does and the TVC goes to 3 divisions as determined by the boys enrollment numbers. JMHO.


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NYBuckeye96 wrote:If River Valley's enrollment declines at its current pace over recent years, the Raiders could be a Division V school by the time they join the TVC.
No way,
Huge misconception when the school started it was a combined 4 High Schools when South Gallia beacme a school it took about 30% of River Valley Students.

Now they maintain around 400 kids yearly. (which is right in the middle of div 4)

If anything with the proposed expansion of roads and development of the bidwell rodney area River Valley could actually Gain enrollment??

They will never be division 5


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