Minford Falcons 2011
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Past Minford teams, up to the last 6 years or so, the Falcons were Division IV. I really don't think the change in division within the teams outlook for this upcoming season will change that much. Looking forward to another season of high school football.
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4th n Goal wrote:Agree that it may not take as many points to get in, but you don't want to have to play AT Ironton, Bishop Hartley or ACC in week 11. Getting into the top 4 will take nearly 20 pts and 8-9 winsSPAMONY wrote:Although the competition in reg 15 might I repeat MIGHT be better, Minford will have no trouble making the playoffs in this region. Tha last three years it has taken 16 or 17 points to make it in reg.19 while 14's got you in to reg.15. with minfords schedule the are a lock with 7 wins and 6 wins they still have a chance.
I dont think Minford will struggle anymore against the top tier teams in DIV than they have against the top tier DV teams. Hartley is gone so they dont count. In my opinion these two regions are a wash competition wise. 15 has the better top 2 teams usually I stress USUALLY but top to bottom 19 is tougher JMO
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I agree Spamony. Hartley and Ironton showcased region 15 last year, but top to bottom I am not sure I would give 15 the nod for the tougher region. With Portsmouth West moving to 19 this year it will make that region even tougher.
Now back to Minford:
I hear that Minford is going to have a very good line this year. They will be a load to stop when they line up to run it down the other team's throat. They should be set up nicely at QB, but they do lose a ton of speed from Butcher and Piquett. It will be interesting to see what type of speed they have in the backfield. Gaines will be a solid back, but hopefully they will have a couple kids that have really good speed in the backfield with him. Dont know how they will look at WR....with the line they will have throwing may not come in to play that often.
Now back to Minford:
I hear that Minford is going to have a very good line this year. They will be a load to stop when they line up to run it down the other team's throat. They should be set up nicely at QB, but they do lose a ton of speed from Butcher and Piquett. It will be interesting to see what type of speed they have in the backfield. Gaines will be a solid back, but hopefully they will have a couple kids that have really good speed in the backfield with him. Dont know how they will look at WR....with the line they will have throwing may not come in to play that often.
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With a lack of speed in the backfield, Minford could be in trouble. The line will be neutralized and then no speed to take it to the end zone. Speed is a difference maker and Minford better find some. Replacing two of the fastest guys in the league and one of the best tailbacks will be a BIG challege.
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Blackjack wrote:With a lack of speed in the backfield, Minford could be in trouble. The line will be neutralized and then no speed to take it to the end zone. Speed is a difference maker and Minford better find some. Replacing two of the fastest guys in the league and one of the best tailbacks will be a BIG challege.
Last year, before summer conditioning started, Minford only looked to have good speed in Butcher. Then Piquett really stepped up and used his speed as a football player.
I think we will be fine. I think there will be speed when football season rolls around.
I watched Ironton play 3 times last year. Some may argue with what I am about to say......but Ironton had no speed like Minford did. But they had a great line and just ran it down everyone's throat. Wilkes was their fastest kid, and he was not as fast as the 2 speedsters from Minford with pads on, not even close.
I watched Ironton beat Hartley at home and I saw Hartley beat Ironton in the playoffs. When Hartley won, Ironton's backs were outrunning their blocks.
We may not have a back that can scamper down the sidelines for a 80 yd TD.....but we have some shifty backs that can get 5-6 yards per carry.
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West has been in the playoffs in both in D4 Reg 15 and D5 Reg 19. The quality of teams isn't comparable. Except for a few, the best teams in D4 are superior to those in D5. Based on points alone, it does seem to be easier most years to make the playoffs in 15. Most years it it seems like a couple bad teams get in at the 7 and 8 seeds. So if making the playoffs is a teams goal, then D4 may be the best. Rock Hill and Fairland are both examples of teams in the last few years with weaker schedules that kinda worked out and got them in the playoffs, even though the teams themselves had no business being there. They go on the road, against the really good teams, usually seeds 1-6 and get thumped.
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siderman wrote:West has been in the playoffs in both in D4 Reg 15 and D5 Reg 19. The quality of teams isn't comparable. Except for a few, the best teams in D4 are superior to those in D5. Based on points alone, it does seem to be easier most years to make the playoffs in 15. Most years it it seems like a couple bad teams get in at the 7 and 8 seeds. So if making the playoffs is a teams goal, then D4 may be the best. Rock Hill and Fairland are both examples of teams in the last few years with weaker schedules that kinda worked out and got them in the playoffs, even though the teams themselves had no business being there. They go on the road, against the really good teams, usually seeds 1-6 and get thumped.
Thats what a few of us just said on here. When you look at Ironton, Hartley and Coshocton, they are better than the top 3 from Reg 19 on most years.
But top to bottom, especially with Ports West adding to the Reg 19 group, I still think Reg 19 is overall tougher and it is harder to get in.
There are many teams in Reg 15 playing D3 schools and picking up wins, even though the D3 schools they beat are marginal at best. You dont see very many Reg 19 schools playing up to D3 other than Waverly being in D3 up to this year. Even some Reg 15 schools played up to D2, and also playing interstate opponents that gave them the same points as beating an Ohio D1 playoff team.
It has been a difference of about 2.5 playoff points to make it in between Reg 19 and Reg 15 over the past few years.
I still wont change the fact that if the Reg 19 schools are playing up they can suffer another loss or two and still get in. If the school is in Reg 15 and playing schools in the same division, they need all the wins they can muster to make it to the playoffs.
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Actually, after some research:
West, with 15.95 pts, would not have made the playoffs in Reg 19 last year but finished #5 in Reg 15.
Minford and Burg would have both been traveling week 1 of the playoffs instead of hosting in Reg 15.
They all played a very similar schedules.
Just shows that the top 4 spots are harder to get in Reg15, but it is harder overall to get in for Reg 19.
West, with 15.95 pts, would not have made the playoffs in Reg 19 last year but finished #5 in Reg 15.
Minford and Burg would have both been traveling week 1 of the playoffs instead of hosting in Reg 15.
They all played a very similar schedules.
Just shows that the top 4 spots are harder to get in Reg15, but it is harder overall to get in for Reg 19.
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Bleeding Red wrote:Blackjack wrote:With a lack of speed in the backfield, Minford could be in trouble. The line will be neutralized and then no speed to take it to the end zone. Speed is a difference maker and Minford better find some. Replacing two of the fastest guys in the league and one of the best tailbacks will be a BIG challege.
Last year, before summer conditioning started, Minford only looked to have good speed in Butcher. Then Piquett really stepped up and used his speed as a football player.
I think we will be fine. I think there will be speed when football season rolls around.
I watched Ironton play 3 times last year. Some may argue with what I am about to say......but Ironton had no speed like Minford did. But they had a great line and just ran it down everyone's throat. Wilkes was their fastest kid, and he was not as fast as the 2 speedsters from Minford with pads on, not even close.
I watched Ironton beat Hartley at home and I saw Hartley beat Ironton in the playoffs. When Hartley won, Ironton's backs were outrunning their blocks.
We may not have a back that can scamper down the sidelines for a 80 yd TD.....but we have some shifty backs that can get 5-6 yards per carry.
In Region 19, no 7-3 team has made it in going 4 yrs back. In Region 15, there is usually a team with a 7-3 record making it to week 11.
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Based on points, it is easier to make it in Reg 15, but it is harder to make it into a top 4 to host week 11.Vladimir wrote:Bleeding Red wrote:Blackjack wrote:With a lack of speed in the backfield, Minford could be in trouble. The line will be neutralized and then no speed to take it to the end zone. Speed is a difference maker and Minford better find some. Replacing two of the fastest guys in the league and one of the best tailbacks will be a BIG challege.
Last year, before summer conditioning started, Minford only looked to have good speed in Butcher. Then Piquett really stepped up and used his speed as a football player.
I think we will be fine. I think there will be speed when football season rolls around.
I watched Ironton play 3 times last year. Some may argue with what I am about to say......but Ironton had no speed like Minford did. But they had a great line and just ran it down everyone's throat. Wilkes was their fastest kid, and he was not as fast as the 2 speedsters from Minford with pads on, not even close.
I watched Ironton beat Hartley at home and I saw Hartley beat Ironton in the playoffs. When Hartley won, Ironton's backs were outrunning their blocks.
We may not have a back that can scamper down the sidelines for a 80 yd TD.....but we have some shifty backs that can get 5-6 yards per carry.
In Region 19, no 7-3 team has made it in going 4 yrs back. In Region 15, there is usually a team with a 7-3 record making it to week 11.
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Only once (#5 Coschocton, in 2009) in the past 5 years has a visiting team won a playoff game in R15.
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CONGRATS to the Minford 4x1 relay team, for making it to the finals tomorrow....and yes one of the boys is a senior and the alternate is a junior....so who knows we might have speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and they broke the school record again!!!
Oh, and they broke the school record again!!!
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Minford chalked up a time of 42.79 seconds for 4th in the state Division II in Columbus Saturday afternoon. That's an average of 10.69 seconds per 100m per runner. Those guys were flying!
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My Falcons will be solid this year. Good coaching, good community great kids.
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Falcons will have a bit of a speed issue this year though. I think they make up for it with the power game though.
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Does anyone know if Minford is going to play any 7 on 7's or if they have released a scrimmage and regular season schedule yet?
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Don't know about 7 on 7's I'm sure there will be some. Instruction hasn't started yet though so it will be after that. The schedule for this year is:
@ South Point
H Wellston
H Piketon
@ Meigs
@ Oak Hill
@ West
H Northwest
H Wheelersburg
@ Waverly
H Valley
@ South Point
H Wellston
H Piketon
@ Meigs
@ Oak Hill
@ West
H Northwest
H Wheelersburg
@ Waverly
H Valley
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7 on 7`s
7/12 @ Jackson
7/20 @ Minford
7/22 @ Jackson
Scrimmage
8/9 @ RH
8/13 @ PHS
8/19 FHS @ Home !
7/12 @ Jackson
7/20 @ Minford
7/22 @ Jackson
Scrimmage
8/9 @ RH
8/13 @ PHS
8/19 FHS @ Home !
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We seemed to have flipped the conference schedule around but it seems ok with:
DATE: OPPONENT:
Fri 8-26 at South Point
Fri 9-2 Wellston
Fri 9-9 Piketon
Fri 9-16 at Pomeroy Meigs
Fri 9-23 at Oak Hill
Fri 9-30 at Portsmouth West
Fri 10-7 Scioto Northwest (Homecoming)
Fri 10-14 Wheelersburg (Wall of Fame Night)
Fri 10-21 at Waverly
Fri 10-28 Lucasville Valley (Senior Night)
DATE: OPPONENT:
Fri 8-26 at South Point
Fri 9-2 Wellston
Fri 9-9 Piketon
Fri 9-16 at Pomeroy Meigs
Fri 9-23 at Oak Hill
Fri 9-30 at Portsmouth West
Fri 10-7 Scioto Northwest (Homecoming)
Fri 10-14 Wheelersburg (Wall of Fame Night)
Fri 10-21 at Waverly
Fri 10-28 Lucasville Valley (Senior Night)