2015 Logan @ Athens

[Raider6309]

Athens under Adams
2007 1-9
2008 4-6
2009 9-1
2010 5-5
2011 10-1
2012 11-2
2013 12-1
2014 14-1

overall 66-26 playoffs 8-4
That looks like a solid built program

[TRENCHFOOT]

In the 80's I think Athens only won twice and tied us once, but I can remember a good hammering the Chiefs put on the Bulldogs in 82. 44-6. Logan's had a bunch of good teams and players Mr. Raider. Not just the Conrads and the year 2000.

[TRENCHFOOT]

Yes it's 2015, Logan finds it more relevant to the the topic that Logan had a good team in 2000 compared to Athens in 2014. Are the conrads gonna play? Is Amyx gonna coach? Athens brings back its O and D line from a state finalist team. Athens has a very good football program under Adams and White. Logan has struggled since Amyx left

i maybe wrong but.... i think your missing the point. athens hasnt fielded good teams consistantly since the late 80's early 90's. and when it comes to beating Logan........ since 1980 they are about 4-22-1. and up until the last few years athens was in the bottem half of the SEOAL standing every year. athens has only claimed 3 SEOAL titles since 1970.
i'll give you props though.. athens has done great under adams and logan has stuggled since amex but we feel they are in good hands now that coach Burk is the HC. but ... hey.... if athens wins then they get #5 since 1980.

I think he's missing the point as well.

[Paladin]

Except Athens most recent record was built in the TVC against smaller and weaker teams. When they ran from the SEOAL, they were playing teams their size and much tougher.

Reality dead ahead.

[Raider6309]

Except Athens most recent record was built in the TVC against smaller and weaker teams. When they ran from the SEOAL, they were playing teams their size and much tougher.

Reality dead ahead.

that sounds really familiar but I can't think of the school with 490 boys beating schools with 290 boys lol

[OneHitWonder]

Athens vs. Logan the Last Ten Years
Year Regular Season Record
LOGAN
2004 5-5
2005 8-2
2006 8-2
2007 9-1
2008 10-0
2009 10-0
2010 3-7
2011 1-9
2012 2-8
2013 6-4
2014 5-5
TOTAL 67-43
WINNING % 60%

ATHENS
2004 1-9
2005 3-7
2006 1-9
2007 1-9
2008 4-6
2009 9-1
2010 5-5
2011 10-0
2012 9-1
2013 10-0
2014 10-0
TOTAL 63-47
WINNING % 58%
Head to Head
2004 Logan 35-7
2005 Logan 42-18
2006 Logan 55-0
2007 Logan 62-6

Playoffs:
Logan: 4 Appearances
2006 – Lost first round
2007 – Lost first round
2008 – Lost second round
2009 – Lost second round
Logan Playoff Record 2-4

Athens: 4 Appearances
2011 – Lost first round
2012 – Lost third round (Regional Runner-Up)
2013 – Lost third round (Regional Runner-Up)
2014 – Lost Championship Game (State Runner-Up)
Athens Playoff Record 4-8

Logan Athens Game:

If I'm trying to build a program and have just been beaten the past 4 years by a combined score of 194-31 I'm looking to get you off of my schedule too.

A quote on that thought from the Logan Daily; “While a terrific gate for both schools, the Chiefs — traditionally physically much smaller than their Lancaster counterparts — often wind up having to deal with season-altering injuries sustained in the Lancaster game. It's become extremely lopsided, with this year's 57-7 drubbing at the hands of the Gales the worst ever.

Looks like the Chieftains also are looking out for their best interest.

Found it interesting that a lot of chatter on this sight is about how Athens plays smaller competition and should upgrade their schedule. For the years 2004-2006 Logan was a Div. I school and Athens D. III
I wonder if people were bitching back then about Logan’s size difference. In 2007 Logan dropped to D II

When looking back I think it would be fair to say that had the series continued it would be very close over the past ten years. I’m not saying that it should have. The Athens administration and football program did what they thought was best for their kids and their program, and when it comes down to it that’s all that really matters

I didn't go back any more than 10 years because I figured if you are a graduate of either school before 2004 and still spend the majority of your time on this site bad mouthing each other you probably should think about a more productive way to spend your days. Maybe work in a soup kitchen, help the homeless something..

[LHS 72]

Athens vs. Logan the Last Ten Years
Year Regular Season Record
LOGAN
2004 5-5
2005 8-2
2006 8-2
2007 9-1
2008 10-0
2009 10-0
2010 3-7
2011 1-9
2012 2-8
2013 6-4
2014 5-5
TOTAL 67-43
WINNING % 60%

ATHENS
2004 1-9
2005 3-7
2006 1-9
2007 1-9
2008 4-6
2009 9-1
2010 5-5
2011 10-0
2012 9-1
2013 10-0
2014 10-0
TOTAL 63-47
WINNING % 58%
Head to Head
2004 Logan 35-7
2005 Logan 42-18
2006 Logan 55-0
2007 Logan 62-6

Playoffs:
Logan: 4 Appearances
2006 – Lost first round
2007 – Lost first round
2008 – Lost second round
2009 – Lost second round
Logan Playoff Record 2-4

Athens: 4 Appearances
2011 – Lost first round
2012 – Lost third round (Regional Runner-Up)
2013 – Lost third round (Regional Runner-Up)
2014 – Lost Championship Game (State Runner-Up)
Athens Playoff Record 4-8

Logan Athens Game:

If I'm trying to build a program and have just been beaten the past 4 years by a combined score of 194-31 I'm looking to get you off of my schedule too.

A quote on that thought from the Logan Daily; “While a terrific gate for both schools, the Chiefs — traditionally physically much smaller than their Lancaster counterparts — often wind up having to deal with season-altering injuries sustained in the Lancaster game. It's become extremely lopsided, with this year's 57-7( 2014 game went into double overtime b-4 the gales won) drubbing at the hands of the Gales the worst ever.

Looks like the Chieftains also are looking out for their best interest.

Found it interesting that a lot of chatter on this sight is about how Athens plays smaller competition and should upgrade their schedule. For the years 2004-2006 Logan was a Div. I school and Athens D. III
I wonder if people were bitching back then about Logan’s size difference. In 2007 Logan dropped to D II ( in the next few years LOGAN might be dropping to D III)

When looking back I think it would be fair to say that had the series continued it would be very close over the past ten years. I’m not saying that it should have. The Athens administration and football program did what they thought was best for their kids and their program, and when it comes down to it that’s all that really matters (I Agree and to let everyone know it was Athens that had to pay big money to break the contract)

I didn't go back any more than 10 years because I figured if you are a graduate of either school before 2004 and still spend the majority of your time on this site bad mouthing each other you probably should think about a more productive way to spend your days. Maybe work in a soup kitchen, help the homeless something..

Most of your post is excellent BUT your comment b-4 2004 is just plain Dumb! enough said! 2015

[noreply66]

Athens vs. Logan the Last Ten Years
Year Regular Season Record
LOGAN
2004 5-5
2005 8-2
2006 8-2
2007 9-1
2008 10-0
2009 10-0
2010 3-7
2011 1-9
2012 2-8
2013 6-4
2014 5-5
TOTAL 67-43
WINNING % 60%

ATHENS
2004 1-9
2005 3-7
2006 1-9
2007 1-9
2008 4-6
2009 9-1
2010 5-5
2011 10-0
2012 9-1
2013 10-0
2014 10-0
TOTAL 63-47
WINNING % 58%
Head to Head
2004 Logan 35-7
2005 Logan 42-18
2006 Logan 55-0
2007 Logan 62-6

Playoffs:
Logan: 4 Appearances
2006 – Lost first round
2007 – Lost first round
2008 – Lost second round
2009 – Lost second round
Logan Playoff Record 2-4

Athens: 4 Appearances
2011 – Lost first round
2012 – Lost third round (Regional Runner-Up)
2013 – Lost third round (Regional Runner-Up)
2014 – Lost Championship Game (State Runner-Up)
Athens Playoff Record 4-8

Logan Athens Game:

If I'm trying to build a program and have just been beaten the past 4 years by a combined score of 194-31 I'm looking to get you off of my schedule too.

A quote on that thought from the Logan Daily; “While a terrific gate for both schools, the Chiefs — traditionally physically much smaller than their Lancaster counterparts — often wind up having to deal with season-altering injuries sustained in the Lancaster game. It's become extremely lopsided, with this year's 57-7 drubbing at the hands of the Gales the worst ever.

Looks like the Chieftains also are looking out for their best interest.

Found it interesting that a lot of chatter on this sight is about how Athens plays smaller competition and should upgrade their schedule. For the years 2004-2006 Logan was a Div. I school and Athens D. III
I wonder if people were bitching back then about Logan’s size difference. In 2007 Logan dropped to D II

When looking back I think it would be fair to say that had the series continued it would be very close over the past ten years. I’m not saying that it should have. The Athens administration and football program did what they thought was best for their kids and their program, and when it comes down to it that’s all that really matters

I didn't go back any more than 10 years because I figured if you are a graduate of either school before 2004 and still spend the majority of your time on this site bad mouthing each other you probably should think about a more productive way to spend your days. Maybe work in a soup kitchen, help the homeless something..

If you are going to do stats do the whole thing. This post of yours leaves TOO much hanging...........With the half truth like this you need to run for office

[LHS 72]

Athens vs. Logan the Last Ten Years
Year Regular Season Record
LOGAN
2004 5-5
2005 8-2
2006 8-2
2007 9-1
2008 10-0
2009 10-0
2010 3-7
2011 1-9
2012 2-8
2013 6-4
2014 5-5
TOTAL 67-43
WINNING % 60%

ATHENS
2004 1-9
2005 3-7
2006 1-9
2007 1-9
2008 4-6
2009 9-1
2010 5-5
2011 10-0
2012 9-1
2013 10-0
2014 10-0
TOTAL 63-47
WINNING % 58%
Head to Head
2004 Logan 35-7
2005 Logan 42-18
2006 Logan 55-0
2007 Logan 62-6

Playoffs:
Logan: 4 Appearances
2006 – Lost first round
2007 – Lost first round
2008 – Lost second round
2009 – Lost second round
Logan Playoff Record 2-4

Athens: 4 Appearances
2011 – Lost first round
2012 – Lost third round (Regional Runner-Up)
2013 – Lost third round (Regional Runner-Up)
2014 – Lost Championship Game (State Runner-Up)
Athens Playoff Record 4-8

Logan Athens Game:

If I'm trying to build a program and have just been beaten the past 4 years by a combined score of 194-31 I'm looking to get you off of my schedule too.

A quote on that thought from the Logan Daily; “While a terrific gate for both schools, the Chiefs — traditionally physically much smaller than their Lancaster counterparts — often wind up having to deal with season-altering injuries sustained in the Lancaster game. It's become extremely lopsided, with this year's 57-7 drubbing at the hands of the Gales the worst ever.

Looks like the Chieftains also are looking out for their best interest.

Found it interesting that a lot of chatter on this sight is about how Athens plays smaller competition and should upgrade their schedule. For the years 2004-2006 Logan was a Div. I school and Athens D. III
I wonder if people were bitching back then about Logan’s size difference. In 2007 Logan dropped to D II

When looking back I think it would be fair to say that had the series continued it would be very close over the past ten years. I’m not saying that it should have. The Athens administration and football program did what they thought was best for their kids and their program, and when it comes down to it that’s all that really matters

I didn't go back any more than 10 years because I figured if you are a graduate of either school before 2004 and still spend the majority of your time on this site bad mouthing each other you probably should think about a more productive way to spend your days. Maybe work in a soup kitchen, help the homeless something..

If you are going to do stats do the whole thing. This post of yours leaves TOO much hanging...........With the half truth like this you need to run for office

He is cherry-picking!

[OneHitWonder]

If you are going to do stats do the whole thing. This post of yours leaves TOO much hanging...........With the half truth like this you need to run for office

Relax Big Guy

I chose a period of time that seemed relevant to the present. Don't really care what happened beyond that....

I found the similarities interesting for that time period. If I wanted the entire history of the series. I would have visited loganfootball.com

Within that time frame Coach Amyx retired. Logan went through a down time, but now Logan posters seem to be happy with the direction the program is headed.

Athens went through a tough time, changed coaches, had some success and now seem to be headed in the right direction.

I am looking forward to the renewal of the game and think it should be a good series.

[LHS 72]

If you are going to do stats do the whole thing. This post of yours leaves TOO much hanging...........With the half truth like this you need to run for office

Relax Big Guy

I chose a period of time that seemed relevant to the present. Don't really care what happened beyond that....

I found the similarities interesting for that time period. If I wanted the entire history of the series. I would have visited loganfootball.com

Within that time frame Coach Amyx retired. Logan went through a down time, but now Logan posters seem to be happy with the direction the program is headed.

Athens went through a tough time, changed coaches, had some success and now seem to be headed in the right direction.

I am looking forward to the renewal of the game and think it should be a good series.

That explains your reasoning!

[questionmark]

Except Athens most recent record was built in the TVC against smaller and weaker teams. When they ran from the SEOAL, they were playing teams their size and much tougher.

Reality dead ahead.

Yes we all know that Schedule did nothing to prep those Bulldogs...

Versus Schools Same Size or Bigger - 23 Wins
St. Vincent St. Mary
St. Francis DeSales
Tri-Valley
Granville
Zanesville
Vinton County
Watkins Memorial
Jackson
Vinton County
Logan Elm
Tri-Valley
Watkin Memorial
Warren
Jackson
Vinton County
Circleville
Springfield Shawnee
Gallia Academy
Warren
Chillitcothe
Vinton County
Parkersburg South
Vinton County

Versus Schools 1 Division Smaller - 18 Wins
Gallia Academy
Warren
Steubenville
Meigs
Gallia Academy
Warren
Meigs
Waverly
Wellston
Meigs
Waverly
Meigs
Wellston
Chillicothe
Vinton County
Gallia Academy
Vinton County
Alexander

So, Athens has 23 Wins against Teams the Same Size or Bigger...
18 Wins Against Teams just 1 Division Lower...41 Total

41 of the 65 Wins since joining the Weak TVC have come against Schools Bigger, the Same or 1 Division Lower...
24 of the 65 Wins have come from the Rest 2 Divisions or Lower...
13 of those wins Came from the TVC TEAMS, the other 28 came from outside of the TVC...

Did we Forget that Athens has more Play-Off Wins (8) than Logan (4) and Athens did this playing in the TVC, beating TEAMS not from the TVC for those Play-Off Wins...Crazy I know...who would have thought...You said they never would win a Play-Off Game once they Joined the TVC (Paladin was Wrong), You said they would Never Beat Shawnee (Paladin was Wrong), they got Lucky, they'll never beat Tri-Valley (Not Once, but Twice they Proved you Wrong Sir Paladin). Well they'll never beat those Catholic Schools who played the World's Toughest Schedule (Guess What, Momma was Wrong Again)...

[questionmark]

Except Athens most recent record was built in the TVC against smaller and weaker teams. When they ran from the SEOAL, they were playing teams their size and much tougher.

Reality dead ahead.

that sounds really familiar but I can't think of the school with 490 boys beating schools with 290 boys lol

Paladin...I don't know if you knew this but...
Logan had 5 Wins this Season.

Those Wins...
against Meigs (2 Divisions Lower)
against Nelsonville-York (4 Divisions Lower)
against Portsmouth (3 Divisions Lower)
against Gallia Academy (2 Divisions Lower)
against Warren (2 Divisions Lower)

So, Zero against Teams Bigger/Same Size
Zero against Teams 1 Division Lower
3 against Teams 2 Divisions Lower
1 against Teams 3 Divisions Lower
1 against Teams 4 Divisions Lower

Again, this means nothing in 2015...but isn't this like the Pot calling the kettle Black?

[LHS 72]

Except Athens most recent record was built in the TVC against smaller and weaker teams. When they ran from the SEOAL, they were playing teams their size and much tougher.

Reality dead ahead.

that sounds really familiar but I can't think of the school with 490 boys beating schools with 290 boys lol

Paladin...I don't know if you knew this but...
Logan had 5 Wins this Season.

Those Wins...
against Meigs (2 Divisions Lower)
against Nelsonville-York (4 Divisions Lower)
against Portsmouth (3 Divisions Lower)
against Gallia Academy (2 Divisions Lower)
against Warren (2 Divisions Lower)

So, Zero against Teams Bigger/Same Size
Zero against Teams 1 Division Lower
3 against Teams 2 Divisions Lower
1 against Teams 3 Divisions Lower
1 against Teams 4 Divisions Lower

Again, this means nothing in 2015...but isn't this like the Pot calling the kettle Black?

I Love It Ancient History Means Nothing in 2015

[questionmark]

Ancient History does mean nothing, but showing Sir Paladin the Facts is always a fun ride...

[LHS 72]

2015

[noreply66]

Ancient History does mean nothing, but showing Sir Paladin the Facts is always a fun ride...

Ancient history is the foundation of a program...three years of good boys is just something that happens once in awhile. If Athens had stayed in the SEOAL they would have still been on the short end of many games until the past three year. Now they go back to being on the low it of the final score and their fans stop showing up as in the past.

[1987chieftains]

Paladin...I don't know if you knew this but...
Logan had 5 Wins this Season.

Those Wins...
against Meigs (2 Divisions Lower)
against Nelsonville-York (4 Divisions Lower)
against Portsmouth (3 Divisions Lower)
against Gallia Academy (2 Divisions Lower)
against Warren (2 Divisions Lower)

So, Zero against Teams Bigger/Same Size
Zero against Teams 1 Division Lower
3 against Teams 2 Divisions Lower
1 against Teams 3 Divisions Lower
1 against Teams 4 Divisions Lower

Again, this means nothing in 2015...but isn't this like the Pot calling the kettle Black?

???? so.... i was on joe elite and i looked up athens 2014 schedule to see the size of the school they played.....
8 schools smaller
1school bigger
1school the same size
now granted athens won all of theyre season games and went on to the playoffs. but your dogging Logan for beating 5 smaller schools.... and athens played and beat 8 smaller schools.... and 4 of those school both Logan and athen both beat.
then i looked at 2013 same thing 8 smaller 2 same or bigger. 2012 5 smaller and 5 same or bigger, 2011 5 smaller and 5 same or bigger. the wins and losses, bigger smaller is a moot point in an attempted to belittle Logans schedule versus athens schedule.
i'm sorry but i'm getting on the soap box here.
i'm soooooo tied of this oooohhh boooh whhoo!!! Logan is so much bigger then everyone!!! it is what it is. Logan and VC are 2 of only 3 high schools in state that are 1 county high schools. im not going to look up enrollment numbers for all the schools in athens county like did for lawerence county, but i posted this before in response to an ironton poster and he never responed. in short take all the 6 high schools enrollement numbers in lawerence county and you'd be D1. the same with athens and athens county. consolidate all 5 or 6 high schools in athens county to 1 and lets see if you enjoy being D1 with the big boys. have fun playing st X. moeller, hillard dave, glenville, st eds every week every year. because by your logic thats all you should play in every sport, every year. the same size or bigger..... have fun with traveling to cincy, c-bus, dayton and cleveland every week for every sport. oh wait........ athens cant do that!!!! they cant efford the travel. its to expensive to travel all over the state. thats why they left the league that they sat right in the middle of.... or was it?

this is pretty self explanatory
2006 tvc
wellston D5
alexander D5
VC D3
meigs D5
NY D5
belpre D5 playoff team
trimble D6
fed hock D5

2006 SEOAL that athens left.
ironton D4
zanesville D2 playoff team
marietta D2
warren D3
jackson D2
chillicothe D2
portsmouth D5 playoff team
gallia D4 playoff team
Logan D2 playoff team
athens D3

2014
8/29 H Gallia Academy (4-6) D4 W 52-0 smaller
9/5 A Zanesville (5-5) D2 W 66-28 bigger
9/12 H Warren (1-9) D4 W 69-6 smaller
9/19 A Alexander (5-5) D5 W 55-9 smaller
9/26 H Vinton County (2-8) D3 W 61-14 same
10/3 A Steubenville (10-4) D4 W 58-42 smaller
10/10 A Meigs (5-5) D4 W 49-0 smaller
10/17 H Wellston (3-7) D5 W 82-7 smaller
10/24 H River Valley (5-5) D5 W 77-14 smaller
10/31 A Nelsonville-York (7-4) D6 W 48-22 smaller

sorry all, i was going to bust.

[Raider6309]

Athens left for less travel in the TVC. Zanesville left for less travel in the ECOL. Chillicothe to SCOL. Gallia, Ironton, Portsmouth to the OVC. Athens was just smarter than Logan, Jackson, and Warren

Logan 490
Jackson 300
Warren 280
Portsmouth 190

Athens 290
Vinton 290
Meigs 220
River valley 190
Alexander 180
Wellston 180
Nelsonville York 150

Kick Logan out of the SEOAL and add Athens, would save the SEOAL.

[Dundas]

If you're going to throw out enrollment numbers Raider, at least look them up and give the correct numbers.

1987 Chieftain is absolutely right...