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Quick question, how are teams such as Oak Hill and Northwest able to switch between SOC I and SOC II in different sports?
Oak Hill has been in the SOC 1 for football since joining the conference in the early 1990s. The only two teams that switched divisions in that time period were Valley moving up to the SOC 2 and Nortwest moving down to the SOC 1. While I think it is fair to question why Oak Hill and Northwest are in the SOC 1 with smaller schools I don't think that it should be a "just because" type argument. By that I mean that some have said on here that if you are in the SOC 2, you should have to be in it for all sports.

Check out the OHSAA list of conferences. There are some schools that are football only members of a conference and some that are independent while playing in a league for all other sports. The Northeast Ohio Conference is listed as having schools playing in different divisions for different sports. I think this type of arrangement could help a school like Jackson find a league.


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OSU 77 wrote:
Westfan wrote:I think all the SOCII teams except Wheelersburg will be better next year. Wheelersburg will still be good, just not the physically dominate team they were this year. Should make for a very competitive league.
West I think could be better in 2015 if they find a QB. Last years 3 year starter had his issues when throwing the ball. I would say the worst of seen at West in 10 years throwing the ball. He would have been a better receiver or running back but just would not accept the role.
He threw for almost 1200 yds, thats more than they have had in a while. In 2009 we threw for 393 and in 2010 it was 925, so your comment doesnt hold up.


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Throwing for 1,200 yards and 13 interceptions is not good. I would say a first year starter that would be fine but a 3 year starter should be better.


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Normally I woul agree those are not good numbers for a 3 year starter but west really never threw the ball before so it's like it was his first year


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Yeah i agree it was pretty much like his first year. Under the previous coach it was never a structured system it looked like. But from the looks of this year and under a new (better) coach you see his potential come out. Also being on a team that throws the ball 40% of the time was probably a big change for the whole team after only throwing the ball in obvious 3rd down situations. Just a lack of coaching in the previous 2 years may be a factor from the end results of this past season. IMO


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fbnut wrote:
4th n Goal wrote:
ohbuckeye2 wrote:Who has the best shot at being their QB next year?
My too early to guess opinion would either be Davis (Sr) or Garrett (Soph).
Who is Garrett?
He plays wide receiver! Very fast and good athlete. Not a QB though. I heard chase Burke is going to get a shot. Taylor Doerr had a heck of a year for JV but in the end Im guessing it will be Davis. He has been the QB for this class since 7th grade. He is a good athlete. Like I said burg will be loaded again! There will be kids that will step up that alot of folks have not heard of but have waited their turn a lot like Austin May did this year! No worries pirate fans we good!


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sportsman678 wrote:Yeah i agree it was pretty much like his first year. Under the previous coach it was never a structured system it looked like. But from the looks of this year and under a new (better) coach you see his potential come out. Also being on a team that throws the ball 40% of the time was probably a big change for the whole team after only throwing the ball in obvious 3rd down situations. Just a lack of coaching in the previous 2 years may be a factor from the end results of this past season. IMO
That is funny I don't care who you are! I believe he passed for over 900 yards last year. I will go back to a 3 year starter should not throw 13 interceptions. By the way if the Coaching was better why soooo many interceptions this year. This is my final comments on this subject good luck next year West!


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OSU 77 wrote:This is my final comments on this subject
Thank God. You've been bringing a knife to a gunfight for months now :lol:


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OSU 77 wrote:
sportsman678 wrote:Yeah i agree it was pretty much like his first year. Under the previous coach it was never a structured system it looked like. But from the looks of this year and under a new (better) coach you see his potential come out. Also being on a team that throws the ball 40% of the time was probably a big change for the whole team after only throwing the ball in obvious 3rd down situations. Just a lack of coaching in the previous 2 years may be a factor from the end results of this past season. IMO
That is funny I don't care who you are! I believe he passed for over 900 yards last year. I will go back to a 3 year starter should not throw 13 interceptions. By the way if the Coaching was better why soooo many interceptions this year. This is my final comments on this subject good luck next year West!

Im not making an argument im just stating my opinion. New system in place, hard for a team or player to grasp in 1st year. Have this coach for all 3 years i'd love to see when he was ultimatly comfortable.


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sportsman678 wrote:
OSU 77 wrote:
sportsman678 wrote:Yeah i agree it was pretty much like his first year. Under the previous coach it was never a structured system it looked like. But from the looks of this year and under a new (better) coach you see his potential come out. Also being on a team that throws the ball 40% of the time was probably a big change for the whole team after only throwing the ball in obvious 3rd down situations. Just a lack of coaching in the previous 2 years may be a factor from the end results of this past season. IMO
That is funny I don't care who you are! I believe he passed for over 900 yards last year. I will go back to a 3 year starter should not throw 13 interceptions. By the way if the Coaching was better why soooo many interceptions this year. This is my final comments on this subject good luck next year West!

Im not making an argument im just stating my opinion. New system in place, hard for a team or player to grasp in 1st year. Have this coach for all 3 years i'd love to see when he was ultimatly comfortable.
Some good points but I do agree 13 interceptions is alot and for a 3 year starter. Hopefully next year the new QB will work out better in the system. I would love to have a 3 year starter for the Blue Devils! :12223


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noles_fan wrote:
OSU 77 wrote:
Westfan wrote:I think all the SOCII teams except Wheelersburg will be better next year. Wheelersburg will still be good, just not the physically dominate team they were this year. Should make for a very competitive league.
West I think could be better in 2015 if they find a QB. Last years 3 year starter had his issues when throwing the ball. I would say the worst of seen at West in 10 years throwing the ball. He would have been a better receiver or running back but just would not accept the role.
He threw for almost 1200 yds, thats more than they have had in a while. In 2009 we threw for 393 and in 2010 it was 925, so your comment doesnt hold up.

Your dates are wrong noles.


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West I think could be better in 2015 if they find a QB. Last years 3 year starter had his issues when throwing the ball. I would say the worst of seen at West in 10 years throwing the ball. He would have been a better receiver or running back but just would not accept the role.[/quote]
He threw for almost 1200 yds, thats more than they have had in a while. In 2009 we threw for 393 and in 2010 it was 925, so your comment doesnt hold up.[/quote]


Your dates are wrong noles.[/quote]
Those dates came from Maxpreps


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Westfan wrote:
OSU 77 wrote:This is my final comments on this subject
Thank God. You've been bringing a knife to a gunfight for months now :lol:
More like a spork! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I think next years Tigers are going to be tough. We have a lot coming back, we do lose some good players as do most schools. I think the OVC is a perfect fit now. Not a super amount of travel each week. I'm from ironton and now live up in the canton area and most teams from our area get little if any repect. They beleive anything south of columbus isn't very good year end and year out. I always root for our area as a whole. In our day we could play with most teams but over the years we have been in a downward spiral with our enrollment and it isn't often you get a legend like lutz. Keeping the burg, ashland along with russell makes for a great out of conference schedule. now that gallipolis is in the conference we will be that much stronger. Playing big old schools like johnson central takes it's toll. just hope the TIGERS hit the weight room this winter, this year more than most we will have a big old bullseye on our back. :!:


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timbo52 wrote:I think next years Tigers are going to be tough. We have a lot coming back, we do lose some good players as do most schools. I think the OVC is a perfect fit now. Not a super amount of travel each week. I'm from ironton and now live up in the canton area and most teams from our area get little if any repect. They beleive anything south of columbus isn't very good year end and year out. I always root for our area as a whole. In our day we could play with most teams but over the years we have been in a downward spiral with our enrollment and it isn't often you get a legend like lutz. Keeping the burg, ashland along with russell makes for a great out of conference schedule. now that gallipolis is in the conference we will be that much stronger. Playing big old schools like johnson central takes it's toll. just hope the TIGERS hit the weight room this winter, this year more than most we will have a big old bullseye on our back. :!:
Ironton will beat up on an under developed OVC and mediocre at best KY teams. Could likely lose 2 more to The Burg again next year. :lol:

West will have to find an arm to throw the ball. If not they could go 5-5.

Minford will be better next year. How much? We will have to see in 8 1/2 months.

Valley will be stacked. Nuff said there.

Burg, well the kids always seem to surprise the doubters. Would say they turn in an 8-2 season while making the playoffs again.


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West has a couple good options at quarterback.
How successful West is next year will depend on improvements in the offensive line and the health of a couple key players. Also getting a few kids out to play who didn't last year would really help. Confident that there is no way they loose 5 games.


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I would agree 3 wins for sure against OVC Teams and if you count Portsmouth now that they are in the OVC that would be 4 wins.

SP - W
RH - W
Fairland - W
Portsmouth - W


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