Wk10 Athens (9-0 5-0) @ Nelsonville-York (7-2 5-0)

[ny_defense_21]

Would Buchtel have been running clocked the last two regional finals if that rule was in place? Oh wait they didn't make it did they? What is with all the Athens haters on here hating on a team that has really never been any good till recently?

Athens 63 Buchtel 21

[Bighitsinc]

Would Buchtel have been running clocked the last two regional finals if that rule was in place? Oh wait they didn't make it did they? What is with all the Athens haters on here hating on a team that has really never been any good till recently?

Athens 63 Buchtel 21

Don't get your panties in a wad again.
They don't hate the players.
The hate IS deeply rooted though.
HATE the arrogance that spews from Athens
HATE that they ran from the competition in the SEOAL
with their tails between their legs.
HATE that they think one great class makes for a great program
HATE that they refuse to understand that there is a
Difference in a rural and city school system.
HATE the big school in a small school league.
MOSTLY HATE THE ARROGANCE THOUGH!

O,,, I LOVE the fact that they could go 10 and 0 and not even host
and be seated below an 8 and 2 team,, should tell you just how tough their schedule isn't.

[bengals01]

Here's some more trivia after Friday night the only game Athens didn't have a running clock in is Steubenville.

Here's some more trivia Nelsonville York 1 state title Athens 0 state titles.

that is a fact. I bet you wished you living back then to see NY win that title

[tomcat fan]

Here's some more trivia after Friday night the only game Athens didn't have a running clock in is Steubenville.

Here's some more trivia Nelsonville York 1 state title Athens 0 state titles.

Every time a local team does good a sour fan brings up state titles. Completely different era. Harder to win a title nowadays having to win 5 playoff games. Enjoy what Athens is doing on offense cause it will likely never be seen again in our area

[93Bulldog]

Friday's TVC-Ohio championship game will be the Athens County Game of the week on power 105.5FM.

Good luck to the 'Dogs and Bucks in week 11!

And 'Cats.

And hopefully Belpre too.

[ny_defense_21]

I wouldn't say they think they have a good program because of one good team. I'd say it's that they have a coaching staff that wants to be there and that the kids like. That was the biggest problem for a long time. When I was in school a lot of our best players transferred to other schools because they didn't like the coaches. I'd say going 9-1 in 2009 and 10-0 in 2011 then 28-1 during the last three years would be the start of a good program not just one good team.

[Green Beagle]

It is a good start now keep it going year after year.. Win a regional, Win a state. Then you can talk the talk. Winning a small school league still hasnt got you anywhere. Go Bucks!!

The fact is that the greatest team in your school history still hasnt made it out of its region. Thats the 900 pound gorilla in the room.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

This will be the 35th meeting between the Buckeyes and Bulldogs since consolidation in 1967 and the Buckeyes lead the all-time series 20-14. This contest represents 3 of the rivalry games for the Greyhounds prior to both the NY and Athens consolidations in 1967 --- first, there was the original red and black Athens Bulldogs, which was a SEOAL contest annually. The Greyhounds had only two non-conference rivals, and both of those teams are represented in this game as well ---- The Plains Indians and the Chauncey-Dover Blue Devils. For several decades, the Greyhounds schedule was the SEOAL schools plus The Plains and Chauncey-Dover. All schools consolidated to their existing forms in 1967 which gave us the NY Buckeyes and the green and gold Bulldogs.

Athens is riding a 3 game winning streak in the series. A bit of trivia.........the last time Athens defeated NY without having players who were the sons of OU football coaches was 1990.

NY leads all-time series 20 wins, 14 losses
1967 Athens (H) 32-22
1968 Athens (A) 38-6
1969 Athens (H) 44-8
1983 Nelsonville-York (H) 12-8
1984 Nelsonville-York (A) 20-7
1985 Athens (H) 22-6
1986 Athens (A) 12-6 (3 OT)
1987 Athens (H) 7-0
1988 Athens (A) 34-20
1989 Athens (H) 30-12
1990 Athens (A) 25-6
1991 Nelsonville-York (H) 27-8
1992 Nelsonville-York (A) 35-0
1993 Nelsonville-York (H) 38-0
1994 Nelsonville-York (A) 28-0
1995 Nelsonville-York (H) 22-15
1996 Nelsonville-York (A) 31-9
1997 Nelsonville-York (H) 48-7
1998 Nelsonville-York (A) 21-20
1999 Nelsonville-York (H) 35-17
2000 Nelsonville-York (A) 17-14
2001 Nelsonville-York (H) 22-7
2002 Athens (A) 35-20
2003 Athens (H) 35-6
2004 Nelsonville-York (A) 20-0
2005 Nelsonville-York (H) 39-21
2006 Nelsonville-York (A) 56-16
2007 Nelsonville-York (H) 22-8
2008 Nelsonville-York (H) 22-14
2009 Nelsonville-York (A) 14-13
2010 Nelsonville-York (H) 28-27
2011 Athens (A) 24-21 (OT)
2012 Athens (H) 42-21
2013 Athens (A) 56-20

what an awesome series. Athens is just too much right now. I hope that this game is played with good sportsmanship and everybody leaves healthy. but much like the ironton/Jackson game last Friday, don't tell the buckeyes it's over before it starts. because you may be surprised.proud as a peacock of both squads.

[Raider6309]

It is a good start now keep it going year after year.. Win a regional, Win a state. Then you can talk the talk. Winning a small school league still hasnt got you anywhere. Go Bucks!!

The fact is that the greatest team in your school history still hasnt made it out of its region. Thats the 900 pound gorilla in the room.

So you're saying Jackson and Logan don't have good programs? Big big Difference between D2-D3 than smaller schools

Athens 63
NY 7

[Green Beagle]

It is a good start now keep it going year after year.. Win a regional, Win a state. Then you can talk the talk. Winning a small school league still hasnt got you anywhere. Go Bucks!!

The fact is that the greatest team in your school history still hasnt made it out of its region. Thats the 900 pound gorilla in the room.

So you're saying Jackson and Logan don't have good programs? Big big Difference between D2-D3 than smaller schools

Athens 63
NY 7

Thats the point Raider Thank you a D3 or D2 school playing in a D5 and D6 league, Huge difference.

[93Bulldog]

Vinton County is D3 (same as Athens), Meigs D4, RV D5, Wellston D5, Alexander D5 ... only NY is D6 - so the TVC-Ohio is NOT a D6 league.

Logan is a D2 school playing in a D4 and D5 league. Portsmouth D5, Gallia D4, Warren D4, Jackson D3.

if your going to make statements, try and make em accurate.

[Green Beagle]

Vinton County is D3 (same as Athens), Meigs D4, RV D5, Wellston D5, Alexander D5 ... only NY is D6 - so the TVC-Ohio is NOT a D6 league.

Logan is a D2 school playing in a D4 and D5 league. Portsmouth D5, Gallia D4, Warren D4, Jackson D3.

if your going to make statements, try and make em accurate.

Ok so the SEOAL and TVC Ohio are basically the same? Then Why did you cut and run from the SEOAL and beg to join the TVC? And Why keep NY in the Ohio? They clearly belong in the Hocking. Why then did Athens continue to struggle to win Anything In the SEOAL? Why?

[fairlandboi'06]

[quote="tomcat fan"][quote="bucks_09"][quote="Football fan"]Here's some more trivia after Friday night the only game Athens didn't have a running clock in is Steubenville.[/quote]
Here's some more trivia Nelsonville York 1 state title Athens 0 state titles.[/quote]
Every time a local team does good a sour fan brings up state titles. Completely different era. Harder to win a title nowadays having to win 5 playoff games. Enjoy what Athens is doing on offense cause it will likely never be seen again in our area[/quote]



In my opinion back when NY won the title it would have been difficult just for the simple fact they only took the top 2 teams in the region. NY had to be tuff as hell. I understand its been a long time ago and NY needs to win now if they want to talk smack.

[doubleplay643]

Just to add some outside perspective, not that it is going to change anyone's mind lol, but if we set aside the SEOAL/TVC thing for a second.

Can we agree that no matter which of those two leagues Athens would have played in the last 3-years that they would have been very successful (probably undefeated)? I think the answer is clearly and obviously yes. So if Athens was currently in the SEOAL they would still be ranked in Region 9 and playing in Week 11. Playing in the SEOAL or TVC would change nothing for the current Athens team over the last several years.

I think if you look either prior to the last 3 years or project (dangerous word I know) after this year, you will find that PERHAPS there is an advantage if the only criteria you are considering is winning to playing in the TVC. But the SEOAL sure hasn't been much to write home about the last 3-4 years so that is a big PERHAPS.

Do I still lol have a little heartburn about them not being in the SEOAL, sure, maybe I suppose, but do I think it would have made one iota of a difference with their current class, no I do not.

I think the question becomes what happens in 2015 and after, will Athens continue to produce results far superior to their league counterparts or will they go back to being beatable and does everyone else become equally competitive. I think you will see in 2015 a team still strong but nothing obviously like this year, and then a fall off for a couple years where there is parity in the TVC Ohio. I do not think after this year there will be the 50 point spreads, and in several years those spreads become non-existent.

This class I think is an exception, and not necessarily the rule of how all future Athens teams will perform.

Whether we are talking about the TVC Ohio, the SEOAL or Region 9, they are the Goliath amongst a lot of Davids....

[ny_defense_21]

Vinton County is D3 (same as Athens), Meigs D4, RV D5, Wellston D5, Alexander D5 ... only NY is D6 - so the TVC-Ohio is NOT a D6 league.

Logan is a D2 school playing in a D4 and D5 league. Portsmouth D5, Gallia D4, Warren D4, Jackson D3.

if your going to make statements, try and make em accurate.

According to the ohsaa website The cut off for D3 was 280 Athens missed D4 by 17 Vinton County missed it by 10. The difference in size of the schools in the TVC really isn't as large as some make it seem. But that has been beaten to death on here already. Nobody is going to change what they think lol.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

the depth and success of this team will not be measured by the score of the bulldog/buckeyes score. but where Athens gets to as of week 11. I think Athens/Jackson would be an awesome matchup.

ironton is kind of in the same boat because of where they are located. we will be in the ovc next year. although we'll even be one of the medium sized schools in it, the competition will not be the same. you're danged if you do danged if you don't. they are being criticized for joining the ovc, but where else would they be, since the soc didn't want them and Portsmouth.we get blamed for playing Kentucky schools though these are great programs folks they are right across the river. you have to play who will play you. and the price of fuel is a cold hard reality.

I think what most people are thinking that because of athen's size they are not a good fit for the tvc, and should win handily. and it kind of cancels out the feelings of worth that other teams in the conference that are having great years.because they know that Athens should win it easily every year based upon their size. but that's not the case. ironton is in a difficult situation themselves, always have been. when you can't get people to schedule you, then you end up playing d2, and d3 powerhouses, that have triple your enrollment. ironton has fallen from AA, to d3, to d4, to d5, and only missed d6 by 2 players. yet this past Friday night we were fighting right with the unbeaten Jackson ironmen. because of how teams are located here in southern ohio, and ironton to the extreme south. it's almost impossible to league up in a conference that the majority of the teams are very competitive. next year the ovc will include ironton and Portsmouth. while it will be good for all other sports, for the other teams in the league as far as football, it'sgonna be a tough road to hoe.i guess as far as Athens is concerned people are asking you to prove what you can do when the playoffs start, and you're playing schools your own size. I'm not knocking Athens or Nelsonville , they have both had great years. but to claim an Athens team is the best ever, that's something you have to prove. I frankly was shocked Athens manhandled stuebenville, so I ain't doubting them in the least. but you can't brag about past tropies unless you have themin your case. anyhoo, good luck to both squads Friday and onto week 11, and hopefully beyond.

[fortdawg]

If you were calling for Athens to leave the league before we started winning---then I'll respect your opinion. If you weren't then it's sour grapes.

[buckman]

I hope Athens and any A-County team goes far in the playoffs. I'll root for them equally as hard as I will for NY. I hope Athens can take it all, but after the last two years I want to see them play with confidence past week 12 and beyond.

I think the Tomcats have a great shot to go deep as well. The Buckeyes are in, but I frankly don't see a week 11 win unless we get a favorable draw in a tough region.

As for the difficulty of 1981 versus 2014, under 1981 rules, Athens wouldn't be in the playoffs in the #5 spot, so you can argue difficulty either way in that one.

Good luck to both teams, and hope for a competitive game and no injuries on either side.

[buckman]

I hope Athens and any A-County team goes far in the playoffs. I'll root for them equally as hard as I will for NY. I hope Athens can take it all, but after the last two years I want to see them play with confidence past week 12 and beyond.

I think the Tomcats have a great shot to go deep as well. The Buckeyes are in, but I frankly don't see a week 11 win unless we get a favorable draw in a tough region.

As for the difficulty of 1981 versus 2014, under 1981 rules, Athens wouldn't be in the playoffs in the #5 spot, so you can argue difficulty either way in that one.

Good luck to both teams, and hope for a competitive game and no injuries on either side.

[fortdawg]

If you were calling for Athens to leave the league before we started winning, then I'll respect your opinion. I'll disagree with it but you have right to it----but if you weren't----then it's sour grapes to do it now.