Week Two: Logan AT Teays Valley

[TRENCHFOOT]

At least we know the Chiefs can put up some decent points on the board, we just have to get our tackling down better, start wrapping up and contain the corners. Still early yet, they will get better. I still give the Chiefs credit, they was hard to beat and both teams played their hearts out. It was miserably muggy hot for football as well. GO CHIEFS!!!

[bman]

I was correct in expecting Logan to score a lot of points. Now averaging over 40 points a game for 2 games. But now its painfully obvious Logan has no D, the problem that many expected when the season started. Giving up over a 43 point average for two games is problematic.

How about a little credit for Teays Valley, which you repeatedly labeled as a weak team?

[bird78]

both TV and CHIEFS had to play in heat so thats not it....they have changed coaches but ole story at LOGAN Nation....these kids work their butts off and don't see no playing tine cause CHIEFS .....as a D2 school still haven't figured out...when you play both ways.....you can't hold a 10 point lead in 4th quarter....thats reason you give up 10 points when fresh in first half and 34 in 2nd half....duh...........try rotating ....plenty of TALENT.......and what you got to lose......don't look like what doing now is working well ...why nunbers down for such a size school.......why should kids play when they work their butt off only to watch kids play both ways.....

[TRENCHFOOT]

I think the heat was a factor to both teams, specially the big boys up front, lot of cramping going on i heard, according to sam fm Logan was rotating some linemen. Burke was even saying on coaches corner he likes to rotate to keep players fresh, it was mentioned in the Logan daily as well, he likes fresh players. But you can only stay so fresh in that kinda muggy heat. It was terrible miserable heat for any player or team to perform regularly imo bird78. The scoring points are there, but the tackling needs work regardless. My hats off to TV though, they worked it out in the end. Back to work for the Chiefs.

[1987chieftains]

the poor tackling made the tv qb look like a super star. its got to get better. players are comitting to a tackle before they have close the gap between them and the offensive player and running to a player, not the ball. on a brighter note we did show alitle light in the run game.

[TRENCHFOOT]

the poor tackling made the tv qb look like a super star. its got to get better. players are comitting to a tackle before they have close the gap between them and the offensive player and running to a player, not the ball. on a brighter note we did show alitle light in the run game.

Sounds like its over pursuing or something. I hope they get it worked out quick. Lets keep our fingers crossed 87. :122245

[loganlocos]

both TV and CHIEFS had to play in heat so thats not it....they have changed coaches but ole story at LOGAN Nation....these kids work their butts off and don't see no playing tine cause CHIEFS .....as a D2 school still haven't figured out...when you play both ways.....you can't hold a 10 point lead in 4th quarter....thats reason you give up 10 points when fresh in first half and 34 in 2nd half....duh...........try rotating ....plenty of TALENT.......and what you got to lose......don't look like what doing now is working well ...why nunbers down for such a size school.......why should kids play when they work their butt off only to watch kids play both ways.....

Teays Valley and Logan are both D2. Both teams played about 9-10 players both ways. Teays Valley players were cramping up left and right the whole second half.

[loganlocos]

Big plays are what killed the Logan defense. You can't make stops on 1st-2nd down and then give up 14-15 yards on third down.

Logan cannot control the line of scrimmage on either side of the ball, and that's the difference. Logan could not run the ball up the middle all night b/c TV dominate the line of scrimmage. If you can't control the LOS, it's hard to win football games.

[bird78]

Locos.....don't really know Vikings situation was talking about Logan....but if Teays is doing it 2 is probably why their nunbers are down too.....8-9 playing both ways.....just explains what I said.....thanks bird

[TRENCHFOOT]

Big plays are what killed the Logan defense. You can't make stops on 1st-2nd down and then give up 14-15 yards on third down.

Logan cannot control the line of scrimmage on either side of the ball, and that's the difference. Logan could not run the ball up the middle all night b/c TV dominate the line of scrimmage. If you can't control the LOS, it's hard to win football games.

I agree with ya on that Locos. I also heard there's a lot of trying to arm tackle going on and it sounds like some over pursuing the ball carrier is happening. They will get it worked out imo. Some good talent on the team and they are coached well.

[C-Bolt]

Its not all a tackling problem for Logan,on the one long run from the running back it looked like he was untouched all the way to the end zone,there were a couple players there but they couldn't get off blocks and once he got in open field Logan defenders couldn't catch up,most of the big plays is on the sweeps and outside runs,its either they are not getting off blocks or just don't have the team speed to get there to gang tackle and contain but I also witnessed numerous missed tackles so I don't think you can pinpoint one particular thing,its a combination of contributing factors.I also noticed a lot of Logan players getting sucked in by fakes, the QB would be faking one way then run another. When your a small team it's hard not to go both ways for some players.When Logan had those dominate defenses in the past they had a lot of players going both ways.

[noreply66]

I watch other teams on defense and their D backs don't play as close to the line as Logan.........This is all the way down to the 7th grade..........If it is lack of speed -set them back a little more...sometimes it looks like Logan will not see who has the ball until the runner is upon them or past them. Seems like Logan has played this way for sometime. It worked years ago but not of lately.

[bird78]

thanks C-bolt.....why does Logan have a snall tean......why go thru all the 2 adays and pratice when they know only a handful is getting to play.....this crap statrs with the younger teans to.......seen it for years... fron tonahawks on up.....bet you could find 11 kids in hallways that would play but when you have 8-9 players playing both ways.......don't blane for not bothering......would you?....if you know only going to do all year is wear the jersey.....

[C-Bolt]

noreply that will present another big problem if they run into a passing team like themselves, unless they get a good bump at the line and quick pass rush, but luckily I don't think there is any teams like that on the schedule.

[C-Bolt]

Bird I have no idea why they so small this year,the word was earlier in the year there was all kinds of players coming out, but didn't happen.The current junior class barely had enough players to field a team when they were freshman,just seems like interest in football isn't like it used to be,but then again Logan has had small teams around 40 players and managed to get by,the defense has not been the same ever since you know who.I like Billy and hope people give him a chance to get this figured out.

[TRENCHFOOT]

Its not all a tackling problem for Logan,on the one long run from the running back it looked like he was untouched all the way to the end zone,there were a couple players there but they couldn't get off blocks and once he got in open field Logan defenders couldn't catch up,most of the big plays is on the sweeps and outside runs,its either they are not getting off blocks or just don't have the team speed to get there to gang tackle and contain but I also witnessed numerous missed tackles so I don't think you can pinpoint one particular thing,its a combination of contributing factors.I also noticed a lot of Logan players getting sucked in by fakes, the QB would be faking one way then run another. When your a small team it's hard not to go both ways for some players.When Logan had those dominate defenses in the past they had a lot of players going both ways.

Yes, I'm sure theres other problems on defense but the missed tackles is very obvious. Shouldn't be getting into our secondary that easy every third down or so. Never said it was all a tackling problem. The defense needs some work all around imo.

[C-Bolt]

Okay then, the talk was tackling, tackling, tackling,just thought I would add a new twist.I been to both games and have witnessed some of the numerous problems.

[TRENCHFOOT]

Well, when ya got radio announcers saying they are arm tackling and need to wrap up, and 5 other people saying the tackling and over pursuing is horrible, that was "at the game" as well, It's very obvious the tackling needs worked on. But not saying that's the whole problem. Burke will fix it. He's not a happy camper either.

[C-Bolt]

The radio guys always say that lol! I never said that wasn't a problem trench,but sometimes theres more to it then just plain ole tackling, like getting off blocks or taking bad angles ect. it takes a lot of players getting there with an attitude in case a player or two miss which will happen with any team,a lot of times I have not saw enough Logan defenders swarming to the ball.Not trying to argue with you but just stating what I have seen, beleive what ya want

[chiefs]

Ya know, I don't want to sound like a rear end, but I can't get over the fact this is the second straight year Logan has lost to Teays and last year was supposedly a renassiance year for the Chieftains. Teays is not even a top half team in the MSL-Buckeye yet one of the biggest reasons cited for Logan not joining the MSL-Buckeye would be because they'd be too good and have too much of an advantage in football (let alone baseball and basketball). I want to see Logan join the MSL, so that's why I say this... not to humiliate Logan fans but the fact is Logan is a hand-in-glove fit for the MSL.