Rock Hill @ Chesapeake

[Trojan_Pride]

well said misteroby

i heard a RH player said i am a senior , our team sucks, i am out of this game SO the h*** with it i am gonna whip some A** LOL

therefore it was then on like donkey kong LOL

[robycop3]

It's also my understanding that the officials allowed too much extra-curricular activity to occur without penalty, until some players thought they could get away with anything short of felonious assault.

A stern warning from the officials, plus a reminder that this was still a school activity in which misconduct could bring about discipline from the school administrators, mighta deterred the players from starting a brawl. However, disciplining a player for defending a teammate is completely outta line, and again, if a child of mine woulda been thus punished, I woulda consulted my attorney. it's pretty-well universal that teammates defend each other, regardless of who started a fight.

[punk rock rules]

Well in this day and age of sue first ask questions later I can understand why you would think that you should "consult your attorney". However according to the ohsaa bylaws that if a student is caught fighting the ohsaa has the right to suspend that athlete from any number of games depending on the attack and how ever they severe they think it will be. Now the ones on the field they would more than likely to get one possibly at the most two games suspension from their next sport. If a player leaves the sideline to go out on the field that becomes a new issue. That player can be suspended for the rest of the athletic school year.

[punk rock rules]

Well in this day and age of sue first ask questions later I can understand why you would think that you should "consult your attorney". However according to the ohsaa bylaws that if a student is caught fighting the ohsaa has the right to suspend that athlete from any number of games depending on the attack and how ever they severe they think it will be. Now the ones on the field they would more than likely to get one possibly at the most two games suspension from their next sport. If a player leaves the sideline to go out on the field that becomes a new issue. That player can be suspended for the rest of the athletic school year.

[Frank Reagan]

A stern warning from the officials, plus a reminder that this was still a school activity in which misconduct could bring about discipline from the school administrators, mighta deterred the players from starting a brawl..

I have been an OHSAA official for over 25 years and stern warnings just don't seem to cut it from my experience. These kids have no fear of consequences and stern warnings just don't hold much to them. As for reminders of discipline from administrators, they aren't on the field during the game to give out such warnings and warnings pre-game from such admins usually don't stick in the players heads once they hit the field.

However, disciplining a player for defending a teammate is completely outta line, and again, if a child of mine woulda been thus punished, I woulda consulted my attorney. it's pretty-well universal that teammates defend each other, regardless of who started a fight.

Disciplining a person defending a teammate in a fight is well within the officials' province should the defender throw a punch. That is covered in the rule book as are subsequent suspensions per OHSAA by-laws should a player be ejected for such offense. I guess that could be taken to court, but I would say it would be a flimsy defense in court for defending a teammate. As for punishment outside of the field of play, by school authorities, that too could be taken to court but that is out of my area of expertise.

[robycop3]

Well in this day and age of sue first ask questions later I can understand why you would think that you should "consult your attorney". However according to the ohsaa bylaws that if a student is caught fighting the ohsaa has the right to suspend that athlete from any number of games depending on the attack and how ever they severe they think it will be. Now the ones on the field they would more than likely to get one possibly at the most two games suspension from their next sport. If a player leaves the sideline to go out on the field that becomes a new issue. That player can be suspended for the rest of the athletic school year.

While I appreciate your input, I don't know of any team player who would sit idly by while a teammate was being attacked by a mamber or members of an opposing team. It's been that way ever since team sports have been played. And disciplining someone for DEFENDING a teammate is 'way outta line under most circumstances, especially if the defender(s) were merely trying to restrain the opponents from ganging up on one person, or trying to break up a fight. Now, I'm NOT defending the use of unnecessary force, such as kicking or stomping a downed opponent, or punching when no one else was throwing any punches, but if my son had acted to pull an opponent off a teammate, nothing more, and was disciplined for it, I would certainly consult my attorney.

[robycop3]

I have been an OHSAA official for over 25 years and stern warnings just don't seem to cut it from my experience. These kids have no fear of consequences and stern warnings just don't hold much to them. As for reminders of discipline from administrators, they aren't on the field during the game to give out such warnings and warnings pre-game from such admins usually don't stick in the players heads once they hit the field.

But, with your experience, I figure you can tell if things are about to get outta hand, by the players' demeanor, speech, and body language, and you'd most likely step in & warn them, maybe even speak to each coach.

Now, while there are several videos of the incident being discussed, they won't reveal who said what to whom, which mighta precipitated the fight, or what prior incidents during the game fueled the fire. Most coaches teach their kids to ignore on-field taunts and namecalling, as they're designed to provoke anger, resulting in penalties or poor execution, but the coaches and officials don't hear every word said in a pile of players, or see every finger jabbed into someone's face.

Disciplining a person defending a teammate in a fight is well within the officials' province should the defender throw a punch. That is covered in the rule book as are subsequent suspensions per OHSAA by-laws should a player be ejected for such offense. I guess that could be taken to court, but I would say it would be a flimsy defense in court for defending a teammate. As for punishment outside of the field of play, by school authorities, that too could be taken to court but that is out of my area of expertise.

I can well understand discipline being enforced if, say, two opposing players were wrestling, no punches, kicking, or strangling, and a teamie of one of them punched or kicked the opponent. But if a teamie simply grabbed the opponent, trying to restrain him, didn't throw him down or strike him, then there's no way the 3rd party should be disciplined. Again, it's circumstantial.

I believe you know most footbrawls are big rasslin' matches, usually with no injuries, but in this case there WAS some injury. Thus, it should be investigated thoroughly.

[punk rock rules]

Yes this should be investigated. The officials should be investigated, coaches,and especially the players and the parents who believe all they have to do is consult their attorney and nothing should happen to them because they don't like the result.

[urban buck]

LET IT GO. ITS FOOTBALL S%%t HAPPENS

[unclebob]

I know one Rock Hill player was suspended for two games in basketball. He postef it online.I am sure there are more. How would you eject kids in a bench clearing brawl other than looking at film? I expect many more will be setting out some games as well.

[childhoodmemories]

Officials should step back and write down numbers of guilty parties

[osumufan]

There is no way you could sit back and write numbers down when you are supposed th be breaking up the fight. I wouldn't want that job!

[91blue14]

that's what an official is supposed to do

[robycop3]

I HEARD( but can't CONFIRM) that both schools had their involved players go out for sports they actually don't play, so they could 'make the team' & serve their suspensions in those sports, rather than serve' em in basketball or in football next year. Sneaky, but LEGAL.

[peake71]

Four of the bball boys are setting the first 2 games. They sat out against Eastern Brown sat and will also be out for mondays game.

[Bear]

I HEARD( but can't CONFIRM) that both schools had their involved players go out for sports they actually don't play, so they could 'make the team' & serve their suspensions in those sports, rather than serve' em in basketball or in football next year. Sneaky, but LEGAL.

I would put close to zero stock in that rumor.

[Gallipolis Blue Devil]

Is there been any changes to the Rock Hill's staff at this time. We have heard many rumors but no one has confirmed changes. I would think with the last few years of not making any improvements in the winning side there would be major changes. I don't know if that program can go through another year like the last 3.

[Manwithplan]

Something's got to give, unless they like being the doormat of the ovc.

[Game day]

Something's got to give, unless they like being the doormat of the ovc.

I am not even sure they will be that good without changes.

[Gallipolis Blue Devil]

Any news of the Coaching front at Rock Hill?