The Mayor's Plan for 24-team TVC
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“We expressed some concerns when the SEOAL expansion was first discussed. If you vote no and the new teams still get in, they could be upset with you. Our concerns weren’t against the teams themselves,†Meek added
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^^^ Come on, you know who runs the show at NY. But let's pretend like you don't and say maybe you need to move up the food chain and get ya a seat on the board and make that "narrow minded" super and principal tell you why they base everything on on football
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no way this happens this many teams in a league , too many variables involved and voting and restructuring. not to mention stopping some long time rivalries that fuel the economy of other sports program.
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The super and principal at NY are not the narrow minded ones. They have voted yes every time..Its the AD's and Principals from some of the other schools. And hardly any decisions are made by the AD's They dont have voting power at all. And ill stay down here with the bottom feeders and post on SEOPS and post only on football because thats the only "real" sport in high school.Ground Buck wrote:^^^ Come on, you know who runs the show at NY. But let's pretend like you don't and say maybe you need to move up the food chain and get ya a seat on the board and make that "narrow minded" super and principal tell you why they base everything on on football
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^^^ See there you ARE coming around. With your love of football I can't believe you ever thought otherwise. ![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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I think JAX is pretty much screwed in the conference game unless they look north.
Some of those teams (Marietta, Gallipolis, Athens, Meigs, River Valley) left the SEOAL at some point; getting away from the monster that is JAX football was likely a big part of that.
I doubt that ANY of those above schools are interested in letting the consistency that has been JAX football into their conferences.
And it's kind of a shame, because other than football, JAX would fit well with a lot of those other schools.
Some of those teams (Marietta, Gallipolis, Athens, Meigs, River Valley) left the SEOAL at some point; getting away from the monster that is JAX football was likely a big part of that.
I doubt that ANY of those above schools are interested in letting the consistency that has been JAX football into their conferences.
And it's kind of a shame, because other than football, JAX would fit well with a lot of those other schools.
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As a Fort Frye fan I'm all for this I think the PVC is a dying league and this would be best for Beverly. Also Crooksville would def not dominate they are very below avg
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Really? Well try Crooksville on for size then. The only time NY has beaten Crooksville in the modern era is the year Crooksville was 0-10. The year they went 1-9 the 1 was against NY. So good luck with them being "below avg" in the proposed conference. The second best team in that division behind Crooksville would be Trimble and I don't think Trimble has ever beaten them. So again, good luck.EasternDspy wrote:As a Fort Frye fan I'm all for this I think the PVC is a dying league and this would be best for Beverly. Also Crooksville would def not dominate they are very below avg
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Crooksville last 5 years 5-5, 4-6, 4-6, 4-6, and 6-4 that's about as avg as you can get. Also they are terrible in basketball. Hard time believing the ceramics would dominate. Also Crooksville should leave MVL because it's a league they do not have a realistic shot of winning.
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Yes those records are average. You left out the part that 8 of their 10 opponents each year would put regular beatings on everyone in the new proposed conference. MOF none of those teams aside from Trimble would typically win more than 2 or 3 games with that schedule. As for basketball, Fort Frye would dominate that as much as Crooksville would in football.EasternDspy wrote:Crooksville last 5 years 5-5, 4-6, 4-6, 4-6, and 6-4 that's about as avg as you can get. Also they are terrible in basketball. Hard time believing the ceramics would dominate. Also Crooksville should leave MVL because it's a league they do not have a realistic shot of winning.
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Why wouldn't Crooksville want to go to a league where they can be one of the better teams and give them a chance to build a team that yearly goes 7-3,8-2,9-1?
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I agree they would be crazy not to jump at the chance. As I said, and they will know, they will dominate this league in football. Having some friends there I know pride in the football program is the only thing keeping them in the MVL. Otherwise they would have left years ago. The people in the community think they can still compete in football in that league. I hope this thing works out so NY can get back to winning league championships too. Get the much too big fish out of the Ohio division and this will happen.EasternDspy wrote:Why wouldn't Crooksville want to go to a league where they can be one of the better teams and give them a chance to build a team that yearly goes 7-3,8-2,9-1?
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RAIDER6309 wrote:Orange and brown, its in the messenger, Athens voted yes because they didn't want the members mad at them. But u have always been a know it all on this site. Athens left the league instantly after the vote. We had an invitation to the TVC for a long time and used it once the vote happened. Idk why u are mad about playing us, u beat us more than u lose and Athens gives u the most points of any team you have ever played
I have never been mad about playing Athens. I've never had a problem with Athens being in the TVC.
I have believed since the very begining that it made perfect sense to have Athens in the TVC.
Voting as not to make other members upset or kad is the stupidest reason I've ever heard.
Athens should have voted no or abstained from voting.
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Ground Buck wrote:Really? Well try Crooksville on for size then. The only time NY has beaten Crooksville in the modern era is the year Crooksville was 0-10. The year they went 1-9 the 1 was against NY. So good luck with them being "below avg" in the proposed conference. The second best team in that division behind Crooksville would be Trimble and I don't think Trimble has ever beaten them. So again, good luck.EasternDspy wrote:As a Fort Frye fan I'm all for this I think the PVC is a dying league and this would be best for Beverly. Also Crooksville would def not dominate they are very below avg
Crooksville would be a playoff team almost every year if this were to happen.
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This is complete and utter BS.RAIDER6309 wrote: Didn't help everyone in the seoal left its starters in all 4 quarters.
Logan L 6-62
Logan led 34-0 at halftime, but had played their 2nd string QB in the 2nd quarter b/c the starter was playing so badly. Starter came back in to start the third quarter and threw a TD pass on the first play. Logan scored on the next drive, and PULLED their starters with 7:26 to play in the 3rd Q.
They didn't put in their 2nd string QB - they put in their THIRD string QB (because 2nd string started on defense).
Logan scored two touchdowns in the fourth quarter against Athens.
1) A back up punt returner returned a punt 43 yards.
2) A 5th or 6th string running back score a TD (Kyle Andy, 3 carries, 8 yards, 1 TD; also his SEASON total).
Logan's starting tailback had 12 carries. The 2nd string tailback didn't touch the ball on offense. The 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th string backs combined for 13 carries.
Logan's starting QB attempted THREE passes - the back-up attempted FIVE passes (in the first half). The back up attempted EIGHT passes all season.
But nice try.
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Wrong Again! There you go again!RAIDER6309 wrote:Athens left right after the vote to expand, Athens made it public they were unhappy about expanding.
Didn't help everyone in the seoal left its starters in all 4 quarters.
Logan L 6-62
Marietta L 11-41
Warren L 10-42
Zanesville L 0-74
Chillicothe L 7-55
Jackson L 19-63
Gallia Academy L 6-14
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I thought this was dead? Miller will never vote to realign and not be in a division with Trimble.
Why would Crooksville agree to this? Compare their travel now to what it would be under this set up. How many paying fans from Frontier or Federal go to Crooksville to watch a football game? If Belpre is down you can throw them right in there too. The Sheridan or Tri-Valley gate is bigger than a whole season or maybe two under this.
Your Honor, if Jackson wants in they need to change coaches every year, make football a low priority (1 paid assistant), and then after several losing seasons you'd have a chance.
Logan is to big and Gallipolis and Warren has moved on.
I don't know if Marietta ever really was in love with playing the teams it's lumped in with other than Warren.
Why would Crooksville agree to this? Compare their travel now to what it would be under this set up. How many paying fans from Frontier or Federal go to Crooksville to watch a football game? If Belpre is down you can throw them right in there too. The Sheridan or Tri-Valley gate is bigger than a whole season or maybe two under this.
Your Honor, if Jackson wants in they need to change coaches every year, make football a low priority (1 paid assistant), and then after several losing seasons you'd have a chance.
Logan is to big and Gallipolis and Warren has moved on.
I don't know if Marietta ever really was in love with playing the teams it's lumped in with other than Warren.
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Won't work; too many teams and the same SEOAL teams will be playing each other. Economically speaking, it doesn't make sense. Too much money to spend on the same travelling distances. It makes sense toplay teams closer to you to save money and have natural rivalries come to fruition. Examples: Ironton vs. Wheelersburg, Minford vs. Oak Hill, Ironton vs. Coal Grove, etc. Leagues should be based on logical economic sense, proximity and then school enrollment. Jackson has always had an extremely consistent football program; however, their other sports would be so-so in any conference. Jackson should be in the SOC2. Period. However, the "powers that be" won't allow that to happen. It would only make the SOC2 deeper and better in football and everybody knows that is the major money maker for schools in this area in regards to athletics.
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This whole thing is stupid but as we all are learning.....its all about Jackson. Why does the Hocking need to change anything? We have had 3 playoff teams every year and most years we just miss having four.