How do you feel about areas around Ohio in small areas with multiple schools forming one county school?

[Orange and Brown]

Do you understand how Levy's work?

[farmer]

How much extra money do County Commissioners have now?

Right now small schools are in much better economic shape than the County Government.

[Ironmen#2588]

Do you understand how Levy's work?

Yes I do know.

[Oak]

Could you imagine how good a team would be if the best football players from New Boston, Green, East, Minford, South Webster, and Wheelersburg all went to one school? Wow

Wait we already have that

[dazed&confused]

Yea, it's worked out great for Logan. Either they all do or none should.

[Orange and Brown]

Yea, it's worked out great for Logan. Either they all do or none should.

I had a 50 minute bus ride freshman year and some kids were on the bus a lot longer. I don't thinks that's great

[Ironmen#2588]

Could you imagine how good a team would be if the best football players from New Boston, Green, East, Minford, South Webster, and Wheelersburg all went to one school? Wow

Wait we already have that

They would be a big D3 school!

[79Tiger]

Only as a last resort.

[Seabee_0586]

East and green should join together they both need a new school so it's a win win

[dazed&confused]

Yea, it's worked out great for Logan. Either they all do or none should.

I had a 50 minute bus ride freshman year and some kids were on the bus a lot longer. I don't thinks that's great

Sarcasm.

[Da man]

Breaking apart ck, buffalo and vinson to form spring valley and huntington east and huntington to form the new huntington and milton barboursville and ona to for cabell midland. Curious to hear from people of these areas in wv. I know it was a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people.

I think one county school is the wrong way to go. I think in lawrence county you could go 2-4 high schools. In scioto i could see new boston, clay and east consolidating. Burg and green.

Shrinking high schools by 1/3 i think would be realistic

[Dundas]

Wellston / Jackson ? Would still be a big d3 ??

If Jackson and wellston consolidated, they would be DII. very close to Logan numbers. If the kids in ge city of wellston went to VC and outside of the city when to Jackson, they would possibly stay in DII. But that would be the only way.

Jackson used to be in D2 region 8 back in 04 and before that.
But if you add just jackson and wellston together, what would you do with oak hill, they would stay down at div 5 or 6 or 7?

I would split wellston up 3 ways. City kids go to VC. Northern half of the district goes to Jackson. Southern half goes to oak hill. That would pretty much allow Jackson to stay D3 and oak hill probably wouldn't change either. VC would probably move back to D3 though.

[noles_fan]

My thoughts on consolidation based on observations from Ky and WV.

Consolidation makes economic sense.

Consolidation does not necessarily make for better education outcomes.

Consolidation can cause loss of community identity.

Consolidation more often than not does not make for more competitive athletic teams.

Bottom line for consolidation is the bottom line. It is all about the money or lack of it.

Really kind of the point for this forum. Would it best for the community and the county. hard when you have multiple schools in a county but majority of the money that's going into the schools, let's say 75% is going into the biggest or 2 biggest schools while 25% to the smaller schools.
Yes athletics would thrive pretty well. But more reason because of economic sense.

There is no way athletics would thrive. Would you be able to field a great team? Yes. The problem is who would you play. All the money you talk about saving and bringing into the school would be spent on travel. Every road game would be a minimum of one hour most being closer to two. So away crowds would be down. So that is less community support.

[MTSWNGRVSG]

Bigger is not always better. Yea you could put schools together to make D I size schools but would it truly be D I as far as athletics would be concerned. How well did Chillicothe do when they played int Ohio Capital Conference with the Columbus schools. There is a reason they went to the SEOAL first then to the SCOL and now the new conference. How is Logan doing now that the SEOAL is gone? The majority of consolations that what happen in Southeastern Ohio would be rural schools which would be spread out over a large area. This would present a problem on kids participating in athletics and other extra curricular activities. You put the smaller schools together the majority of athletes do not understand what it is to simply have to compete to get on the field because at some of the smaller schools just showing up and playing can be enough to get on the field on Friday night.

I am sure some will disagree with me.

[svac83]

"Look at Gallia Academy, shutting down their athletics very soon because they don't have the funds in the budget"

Where did that info come from, Ironmen#2588?

I was told from a very good family friend that lives in gallia. very reliable source. I hope it doesn't happen galliagrad78, gallia still has some good athletic programs in other sports but also a good tradition. But look at the economy with everything going on, it's going to come to schools combining into one school in areas like gallia. like south gallia, river valley and galliapolis and making it into gallia county high school.

I don't think your source is very reliable on this.

[Orange and Brown]

"Look at Gallia Academy, shutting down their athletics very soon because they don't have the funds in the budget"

Where did that info come from, Ironmen#2588?

I was told from a very good family friend that lives in gallia. very reliable source. I hope it doesn't happen galliagrad78, gallia still has some good athletic programs in other sports but also a good tradition. But look at the economy with everything going on, it's going to come to schools combining into one school in areas like gallia. like south gallia, river valley and galliapolis and making it into gallia county high school.

I don't think your source is very reliable on this.

I think his "source" is full of it.

[svac83]

Not many people seem to know this but Gallia academy sports are 100% self funded. They do not use 1 penny of the school board budget to operate. That is part of the reason our athletes band members and cheerleaders have paid a participation fee for a long time. Now when I say 100% self supported that is true as far as the know. I have people tell me that it is against the law that the suppemental pay for coaches doesn't come out of budget.

But I am sure that is just like when Gallia academy moved track events out to new school. The boosters gave the school board like $112,000 and then the board purchased the equipment. I know they pay all transportation costs. All uniforms and equipment.

I am sure the sports programs may of been in trouble when all our sports sucked and no one came to events. Because concessions and everything were down. usuallynwhen I tell people this they don't believe me. But it is true.

[formerfcfan]

It doesn't translate into better athletics. See: Morgan.

[svac83]

I mean I am all for consolidating when consolidating makes sense. But I think the first thing would be to consolidate would be school districts I think we should only have one school district per county. Then I think there should be open enrollment between all counties and some counties should give part of there areas to neighboring counties as far as school districts are concerned. This would lead to a few less high schools good example for this would be federal hocking. Athens county doesn't need a high school all the way there. Those kids could go to helper, warren, eastern or somewhere. A lot of kids that should go to south Gallia go to fairland because when Gallia county schools consolidated that made sense before south Gallia was reopened.

[madpolecat]

Consolidation is a necessary evil sometimes.

Through a lot of thinking over a lot of years, I have come to the conclusion that 1. Population Density and 2. Familial Economic Stability in the District are huge factors in the long term success of high school football programs.

If your goal is to create a superpower by combining schools, consolidation does nothing to address the second issue. That's beyond the scope of the power of a school.

In the example of Jackson County, combining JHS, OHHS, and WHS would create a pretty big school, but it would greatly dilute the population density.

Jackson County HS would not be as consistently successful as JHS has been.