SOC 2 player of the year?

fbnut · Post by **fbnut** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:46 pm

The Flush wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:36 pm Waverly kicked off to Mathews, but Burg refused to kick to Shoemaker, so POY goes to Shoemaker.

I wouldn’t go by that, burg doesn’t kick to anyone

Anyone have just the SOC stats from both?

transplant · Post by **transplant** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:08 pm

In the last how ever many years, how many times has someone NOT from the 1st place team won the award? Not saying its the right way to do it, just the way it is. I have not seen either play, so I can't tell you who I think should win. Sounds like both have had amazing seasons. Good luck to both.

4thgoal · Post by **4thgoal** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:21 pm

The Flush wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:36 pm Waverly kicked off to Mathews, but Burg refused to kick to Shoemaker, so POY goes to Shoemaker.

Or does that mean COY should go to Burg? Honestly, if I was a special teams coach, I wouldn't kick to either one of them.

Jack Sparrow · Post by **Jack Sparrow** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:24 pm

Mathews conference totals
63 rushes for 544 yards 7 TD (8.6 per)
9 rec for 215 yards and 3 TD (23.8 per)

In the two biggest conference games this season (minford and waverly) he had 73 carries for 403 and 4 TD. 4 catches for 97 yards 1 TD.
The most interesting part of that is, how many kids carried the ball or caught passes in minford and waverly games. I’d say 5 or 6. And in oak hill and valley where he didn’t play but a half how many people got touches.

homeward_bound · Post by **homeward_bound** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:39 pm

4thgoal wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:21 pm
The Flush wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:36 pm Waverly kicked off to Mathews, but Burg refused to kick to Shoemaker, so POY goes to Shoemaker.
Or does that mean COY should go to Burg? Honestly, if I was a special teams coach, I wouldn't kick to either one of them.

I think he’s pretty confident in his kicker. Grayson kicked one out of bounds at the 5 yard line (which is his first this year), 3 touchbacks (including one that the ref missed

) and 1 onside kick. He has had 39 touchbacks this year.

Poo Bear · Post by **Poo Bear** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Jack Sparrow wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:24 pm Mathews conference totals
63 rushes for 544 yards 7 TD (8.6 per)
9 rec for 215 yards and 3 TD (23.8 per)

In the two biggest conference games this season (minford and waverly) he had 73 carries for 403 and 4 TD. 4 catches for 97 yards 1 TD.
The most interesting part of that is, how many kids carried the ball or caught passes in minford and waverly games. I’d say 5 or 6. And in oak hill and valley where he didn’t play but a half how many people got touches.

Let’s see shoemaker stats , whoever has better league stats wins it

Post by **wobycat** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:57 pm

Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:46 pm
Jack Sparrow wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:24 pm Mathews conference totals
63 rushes for 544 yards 7 TD (8.6 per)
9 rec for 215 yards and 3 TD (23.8 per)

In the two biggest conference games this season (minford and waverly) he had 73 carries for 403 and 4 TD. 4 catches for 97 yards 1 TD.
The most interesting part of that is, how many kids carried the ball or caught passes in minford and waverly games. I’d say 5 or 6. And in oak hill and valley where he didn’t play but a half how many people got touches.
Let’s see shoemaker stats , whoever has better league stats wins it

Go head to head. Matthews wins.

Poo Bear · Post by **Poo Bear** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm

wobycat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:57 pm
Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:46 pm
Jack Sparrow wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:24 pm Mathews conference totals
63 rushes for 544 yards 7 TD (8.6 per)
9 rec for 215 yards and 3 TD (23.8 per)

In the two biggest conference games this season (minford and waverly) he had 73 carries for 403 and 4 TD. 4 catches for 97 yards 1 TD.
The most interesting part of that is, how many kids carried the ball or caught passes in minford and waverly games. I’d say 5 or 6. And in oak hill and valley where he didn’t play but a half how many people got touches.
Let’s see shoemaker stats , whoever has better league stats wins it
Go head to head. Matthews wins.

All 5 soc games
Best stats wins
Very easy

Jack Sparrow · Post by **Jack Sparrow** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:35 pm

Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:57 pm
Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Let’s see shoemaker stats , whoever has better league stats wins it
Go head to head. Matthews wins.

All 5 soc games
Best stats wins
Very easy

Those stats are thru 4 obviously

fbnut · Post by **fbnut** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:37 pm

Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:57 pm
Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:46 pm

Let’s see shoemaker stats , whoever has better league stats wins it
Go head to head. Matthews wins.

All 5 soc games
Best stats wins
Very easy

Do you throw in padding stats though
Mathews showed up huge when burg needed him in Minford and waverly games
I’m guessing shoemaker did as well
Not putting much into running clock games

Poo Bear · Post by **Poo Bear** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:46 pm

fbnut wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:37 pm
Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:57 pm

Go head to head. Matthews wins.

All 5 soc games
Best stats wins
Very easy
Do you throw in padding stats though
Mathews showed up huge when burg needed him in Minford and waverly games
I’m guessing shoemaker did as well
Not putting much into running clock games

I’ve watched em both , I thought shoemaker was better but that’s just one game and one opinion

Both are good

JTEK · Post by **JTEK** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:55 pm

fbnut wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:37 pm
Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:57 pm

Go head to head. Matthews wins.

All 5 soc games
Best stats wins
Very easy
Do you throw in padding stats though
Mathews showed up huge when burg needed him in Minford and waverly games
I’m guessing shoemaker did as well
Not putting much into running clock games

Mathews against Minford a little over 200yds offense
Against waverly around 295 total yds offense
Doesn’t count making a huge play running down a Minford player and stripping the ball around the 8 yd line
I’ve only seen shoemaker once and he was very impressive

bfry · Post by **bfry** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:06 pm

You could argue for either one. You can’t argue against either one.

Bobbbbbb · Post by **Bobbbbbb** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:42 pm

I can see poo is a big Burg fan

Jack Sparrow · Post by **Jack Sparrow** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:54 pm

fbnut wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:37 pm
Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm
wobycat wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:57 pm

Go head to head. Matthews wins.

All 5 soc games
Best stats wins
Very easy
Do you throw in padding stats though
Mathews showed up huge when burg needed him in Minford and waverly games
I’m guessing shoemaker did as well
Not putting much into running clock games

Stats for shoemaker
Burg: 21-202 4TD,
Minford: 43-214 2TD
Totals 64-416 6TD (6.5per)

Stats for Mathews:
Minford: 24-133 1TD / 2-73 1TD
Waverly: 29-267 3TD / 2-25
SubTotals: 53-400 4TD / 4-98 1TD.
All purpose: 57-498 5TD (8.7 per)

Stats via portsmouth daily times

laser breath · Post by **laser breath** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:39 pm

Jack Sparrow wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:54 pm
fbnut wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:37 pm
Poo Bear wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:07 pm

All 5 soc games
Best stats wins
Very easy
Do you throw in padding stats though
Mathews showed up huge when burg needed him in Minford and waverly games
I’m guessing shoemaker did as well
Not putting much into running clock games
Stats for shoemaker
Burg: 21-202 4TD,
Minford: 43-214 2TD
Totals 64-416 6TD (6.5per)

Stats for Mathews:
Minford: 24-133 1TD / 2-73 1TD
Waverly: 29-267 3TD / 2-25
SubTotals: 53-400 4TD / 4-98 1TD.
All purpose: 57-498 5TD (8.7 per)

Stats via portsmouth daily times

Case closed.

I-TownFanatic · Post by **I-TownFanatic** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:00 pm

Horsley

smurray · Post by **smurray** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:24 pm

Shoemaker SOC2 Only with game against Oak Hill remaining:
760 YDS RUSHING
12 TD’s
1 RECEPTION 14 YDS
3 INT’s 44 YDS 1 Returned for TD
1 Punt return - they refuse to punt to him
0 Kick off returns - they refuse to kick to him (which gives the ball to Waverly most times between the 35-40.
Burg/Minford Games: 412 YDS RUSHING 6 TD’s
Did not play second half against West or Valley

rxburgfan · Post by **rxburgfan** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:31 pm

Omega wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:42 pm To the championship team, usually goes the spoils. Shoemaker without question has the stats, but Mathews has a claim based on being the MVP for the champs.

Agree to championship team goes the spoils. And head to head play. Matthews it is...

Jack Sparrow · Post by **Jack Sparrow** » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:40 pm

D stats for Mathews in SOC
27 tackles
2 df
2 ff
1 int
11/121 PR. (11 per) (they don’t kick it to him either, he goes and gets it tho)

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