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tigerpride wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:02 pm #12 is a great qb. He got put in situation where he didn’t get many reps as qb all season. Heaths head coach told him after game , he was one of best qb they have played.
#12 is a “great” QB? Are you serious? He’s a better WR than QB and he isn’t a “great” WR. #11 at the QB position with #4 AND #12 to throw to likely would’ve won Friday night. I predict moving on to 2024 that #7 will be the QB throwing to #4 and #12.


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SEO95 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:46 am
Tri_State790 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:00 pm
RBH23 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:34 pm

Why did the coaches change to #12? Having #11 at QB tonight could have been a problem for HP.
Real good question. I didn't hear any injury cited as the reason for the change so to me it seems coach made it as a reactionary move to I guess try to improve the offense instead of fixing the reasons the offense struggles to begin with. Offense with 12 at qb was less efficient than the offense with 11 at qb and as far as the timing and making that change in week 11 when the offense already lacked continuity or rhythm just boggles my mind.

#12 is a really good athlete.
He is NOT a quarterback.
Well said. Stunned by the change at QB.
That was bad call changing QB’s. This kid had only lost one game at QB and you move on from him was a bad decision. You do not replace your senior QB. After they changed QB the team lost morale and was never the same team. I would also run the darn ball with Terry!


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2 months ago every Fighting Tiger fan post I read was calling for a QB switch after the Midland game. Many didn’t think #11 was the answer after committing 5 turnovers. Fast forward to end of the season and #11 mustered 2 TDs for the offense against Gallia and Portsmouth. The offense at that point was beginning to sputter and I’m guessing the staff thought it was time for change. It wasn’t like #12 didn’t take reps during the season at QB. He always got a couple series every game.


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XandOs wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:03 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:38 pm
XandOs wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:37 pm

Maybe the talent level isn’t as great as some think. You ever thought maybe the College stuff wouldn’t happen if Pendleton wasn’t pushing them so hard with his connections. Just an observation that many have said. Pendleton and staff haven’t had a Jermon Jackson or Walt Delong or anyone like that yet.
So you’re implying that Power 5 Schools are offering and giving scholarships to Ironton players based upon the word of Pendleton versus doing their own evaluations? I find that hard to believe

What I would believe is players like the 2 kids from Ashland and others haven’t helped themselves from a scholarship standpoint by attending Ironton. That and the fact that no guys have yet to pan out in college will eventually cause coaches to discredit the word of the Ironton coaches.

Even worse will be when the football crazy town of Ironton sours to the way the team is ran and totally turns on the coaches and the transfers stop coming.

Sounds like you just answered the question you were implying. I think Ironton is in good shape. 11-2 is worst season they’ve had and that is a disappointment. Oh and right now. Match resume for resume at this point in career . Pendleton is ahead of Coach Lutz and Woodward and many other coaches on the Mt. Rushmore of coaches in Southern Ohio. Lutz didn’t win first title til year 7. Guess what? 2024 is year 7 for Pendleton. Let’s hope the stars align in 2024
Pendleton and staff are nowhere near the quality of Lutz and his staff. Thats not even debatable.


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XandOs wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:03 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:38 pm
XandOs wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:37 pm

Maybe the talent level isn’t as great as some think. You ever thought maybe the College stuff wouldn’t happen if Pendleton wasn’t pushing them so hard with his connections. Just an observation that many have said. Pendleton and staff haven’t had a Jermon Jackson or Walt Delong or anyone like that yet.
So you’re implying that Power 5 Schools are offering and giving scholarships to Ironton players based upon the word of Pendleton versus doing their own evaluations? I find that hard to believe

What I would believe is players like the 2 kids from Ashland and others haven’t helped themselves from a scholarship standpoint by attending Ironton. That and the fact that no guys have yet to pan out in college will eventually cause coaches to discredit the word of the Ironton coaches.

Even worse will be when the football crazy town of Ironton sours to the way the team is ran and totally turns on the coaches and the transfers stop coming.

Sounds like you just answered the question you were implying. I think Ironton is in good shape. 11-2 is worst season they’ve had and that is a disappointment. Oh and right now. Match resume for resume at this point in career . Pendleton is ahead of Coach Lutz and Woodward and many other coaches on the Mt. Rushmore of coaches in Southern Ohio. Lutz didn’t win first title til year 7. Guess what? 2024 is year 7 for Pendleton. Let’s hope the stars align in 2024
Pendleton and staff are nowhere near the quality of Lutz and his staff. Thats not even debatable.
GoBigI wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:41 am
tigerpride wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:02 pm #12 is a great qb. He got put in situation where he didn’t get many reps as qb all season. Heaths head coach told him after game , he was one of best qb they have played.
#12 is a “great” QB? Are you serious? He’s a better WR than QB and he isn’t a “great” WR. #11 at the QB position with #4 AND #12 to throw to likely would’ve won Friday night. I predict moving on to 2024 that #7 will be the QB throwing to #4 and #12.
The Edwards kid will be the QB in 24


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Pendleton tenure at Ironton

Takes over program in summer of 2018. Ironton is coming off at 4-6 season in OVC with losses to Coal Grove, Portsmouth, Gallia, Fairland along with losses to Wheelersburg 48-0 and Ashland 42-7.

Pendleton takes over and goes 6-5 in first season

Losses- Wheelersburg 28-7, Ashland 14-7, Gallia 36-33, Portsmouth 35-28 and State Runner-Up Johnstown 15-7.

2019 season: 13-2 state runner ups
2020 season: 11-1 State runner ups
2021 season: 11-2 lost in regional semi final
2022 season: 15-1 state runner ups
2023 season: 11-2 lost in regional semi final

Overall record

66-13 after 6 seasons.
5 losses coming in 2018
2019- Lost to Ashland, Kirtland
2020- Lost to Kirtland
2021- Lost to Cincinnati Moeller and Wheelersburg
2022- Lost to South Range
2023- Lost to Cabell Midland and Harvest Prep


5 straight conference championships
3 Regional Championships
5 straight years finishing #1 in region in computer points.

That speaks for itself. His first 6 years can stand up to anyone that’s coached in Southeastern Ohio. PERIOD.
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Bfan99 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:48 am The weight lifting program at Ironton is arguably the best in the area. He works with kids during the offseason to focus on weight gain, speed and strength. This years junior class is 90% kids that has been at Ironton since their freshman year including Terry. Josh Johnson CB is a kid that has had a tremendous jump from only playing JV to being one of Ironton’s best defensive players. He will have college offers soon. The Ironton staff is 100% developing players.
Who decides that? They say that but it doesn’t show on the field. Offensive line is and has been terrible considering the material they have and all the weapons they have to keep defenses off balance.

What they do is out recruit people to out athlete Southern Ohio schools that rely on kids from a 20 mile circle of their school and beat their chest about it. They rely on poaching committed players from area teams who were forced to play as freshmen and sophomores at other schools and then “claim” that they were built at Ironton. You give half the coaches in the local area the talent from any of the last 6 years and they do more with it and probably get ran out of town if they don’t.


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GoBigI wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:36 am
XandOs wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:37 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:30 pm I would agree this team wasn’t near as talented as last years team, but if any other team in Southern Ohio had the talent on this team and went out in the 3rd round (would be 2nd before) then fans would be calling for their job. It blows my mind to read posts about not having this or that. They have a lineman committed to Eastern Michigan. A receiver with offers from most every Power 5 school east of the Mississippi. Numerous other guys who will play college ball and 60 kids on a roster. Heck most school’s don’t have 2 kids who are qualified to play varsity quarterback and fans are arguing who it should be. It’s crazy.

As with every other year, when Ironton plays a team where coaching becomes a priority and the talent is close, they loose.
Maybe the talent level isn’t as great as some think. You ever thought maybe the College stuff wouldn’t happen if Pendleton wasn’t pushing them so hard with his connections. Just an observation that many have said. Pendleton and staff haven’t had a Jermon Jackson or Walt Delong or anyone like that yet.
Carrico was a better football player than Delong, not even close.
Now thats a crazy statement. Walt was far superior to Carrico. Carrico was good I agree. Walt dint play in the OVC. Played against much tougher teams. Cant get much worse than the OVC


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Jumper45 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:19 am
GoBigI wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:36 am
XandOs wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:37 pm

Maybe the talent level isn’t as great as some think. You ever thought maybe the College stuff wouldn’t happen if Pendleton wasn’t pushing them so hard with his connections. Just an observation that many have said. Pendleton and staff haven’t had a Jermon Jackson or Walt Delong or anyone like that yet.
Carrico was a better football player than Delong, not even close.
Now thats a crazy statement. Walt was far superior to Carrico. Carrico was good I agree. Walt dint play in the OVC. Played against much tougher teams. Cant get much worse than the OVC
Carrico is disciplined enough to stay in Columbus and Walt liked to go to Ironton and drink and party every weekend. Lol


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XandOs wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:15 am Pendleton tenure at Ironton

Takes over program in summer of 2018. Ironton is coming off at 4-6 season in OVC with losses to Coal Grove, Portsmouth, Gallia, Fairland along with losses to Wheelersburg 48-0 and Ashland 42-7.

Pendleton takes over and goes 6-5 in first season

Losses- Wheelersburg 28-7, Ashland 14-7, Gallia 36-33, Portsmouth 35-28 and State Runner-Up Johnstown 15-7.

2019 season: 13-2 state runner ups
2020 season: 11-1 State runner ups
2021 season: 11-2 lost in regional semi final
2022 season: 15-1 state runner ups
2023 season: 11-2 lost in regional semi final

Overall record

66-13 after 6 seasons.
5 losses coming in 2018
2019- Lost to Ashland, Kirtland
2020- Lost to Kirtland
2021- Lost to Cincinnati Moeller and Wheelersburg
2022- Lost to South Range
2023- Lost to Cabell Midland and Harvest Prep


5 straight conference championships
3 Regional Championships
5 straight years finishing #1 in region in computer points.

That speaks for itself. His first 6 years can stand up to anyone that’s coached in Southeastern Ohio. PERIOD.
“5 straight conference championships”
It was the OVC… Give me a break. 😂😂😂😂


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BigBelliedBob wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:58 am
XandOs wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:15 am Pendleton tenure at Ironton

Takes over program in summer of 2018. Ironton is coming off at 4-6 season in OVC with losses to Coal Grove, Portsmouth, Gallia, Fairland along with losses to Wheelersburg 48-0 and Ashland 42-7.

Pendleton takes over and goes 6-5 in first season

Losses- Wheelersburg 28-7, Ashland 14-7, Gallia 36-33, Portsmouth 35-28 and State Runner-Up Johnstown 15-7.

2019 season: 13-2 state runner ups
2020 season: 11-1 State runner ups
2021 season: 11-2 lost in regional semi final
2022 season: 15-1 state runner ups
2023 season: 11-2 lost in regional semi final

Overall record

66-13 after 6 seasons.
5 losses coming in 2018
2019- Lost to Ashland, Kirtland
2020- Lost to Kirtland
2021- Lost to Cincinnati Moeller and Wheelersburg
2022- Lost to South Range
2023- Lost to Cabell Midland and Harvest Prep


5 straight conference championships
3 Regional Championships
5 straight years finishing #1 in region in computer points.

That speaks for itself. His first 6 years can stand up to anyone that’s coached in Southeastern Ohio. PERIOD.
“5 straight conference championships”
It was the OVC… Give me a break. 😂😂😂😂
Ovc trophies are more of an embarrassment than an accomplishment. During the Lutz days we made fun of the ovc. Would never took their title serious.


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Tri_State790 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:01 am
BigBelliedBob wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:58 am
XandOs wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:15 am Pendleton tenure at Ironton

Takes over program in summer of 2018. Ironton is coming off at 4-6 season in OVC with losses to Coal Grove, Portsmouth, Gallia, Fairland along with losses to Wheelersburg 48-0 and Ashland 42-7.

Pendleton takes over and goes 6-5 in first season

Losses- Wheelersburg 28-7, Ashland 14-7, Gallia 36-33, Portsmouth 35-28 and State Runner-Up Johnstown 15-7.

2019 season: 13-2 state runner ups
2020 season: 11-1 State runner ups
2021 season: 11-2 lost in regional semi final
2022 season: 15-1 state runner ups
2023 season: 11-2 lost in regional semi final

Overall record

66-13 after 6 seasons.
5 losses coming in 2018
2019- Lost to Ashland, Kirtland
2020- Lost to Kirtland
2021- Lost to Cincinnati Moeller and Wheelersburg
2022- Lost to South Range
2023- Lost to Cabell Midland and Harvest Prep


5 straight conference championships
3 Regional Championships
5 straight years finishing #1 in region in computer points.

That speaks for itself. His first 6 years can stand up to anyone that’s coached in Southeastern Ohio. PERIOD.
“5 straight conference championships”
It was the OVC… Give me a break. 😂😂😂😂
Ovc trophies are more of an embarrassment than an accomplishment. During the Lutz days we made fun of the ovc. Would never took their title serious.
Without Pendleton Ironton would still be in OVC in 2024. Before him we finished 4th in the worst conference in state. Bob Bruney handed the keys of a winner to Coach Lutz. Bruney is the guy who turned Ironton around. Pendleton doesn’t want to be in the OVC. Why do you think this was the last year.


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GoBigI wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:41 am
tigerpride wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:02 pm #12 is a great qb. He got put in situation where he didn’t get many reps as qb all season. Heaths head coach told him after game , he was one of best qb they have played.
#12 is a “great” QB? Are you serious? He’s a better WR than QB and he isn’t a “great” WR. #11 at the QB position with #4 AND #12 to throw to likely would’ve won Friday night. I predict moving on to 2024 that #7 will be the QB throwing to #4 and #12.
Unbelievable. He’s a difference maker. I don’t criticize kids like you do but you are biased.


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osu 77 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:09 am
SEO95 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:46 am
Tri_State790 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:00 pm

Real good question. I didn't hear any injury cited as the reason for the change so to me it seems coach made it as a reactionary move to I guess try to improve the offense instead of fixing the reasons the offense struggles to begin with. Offense with 12 at qb was less efficient than the offense with 11 at qb and as far as the timing and making that change in week 11 when the offense already lacked continuity or rhythm just boggles my mind.

#12 is a really good athlete.
He is NOT a quarterback.
Well said. Stunned by the change at QB.
That was bad call changing QB’s. This kid had only lost one game at QB and you move on from him was a bad decision. You do not replace your senior QB. After they changed QB the team lost morale and was never the same team. I would also run the darn ball with Terry!

Did you not see the Harvest prep had double and triple coverage on Terry?


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tigerpride wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:20 pm
GoBigI wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:41 am
tigerpride wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:02 pm #12 is a great qb. He got put in situation where he didn’t get many reps as qb all season. Heaths head coach told him after game , he was one of best qb they have played.
#12 is a “great” QB? Are you serious? He’s a better WR than QB and he isn’t a “great” WR. #11 at the QB position with #4 AND #12 to throw to likely would’ve won Friday night. I predict moving on to 2024 that #7 will be the QB throwing to #4 and #12.
Unbelievable. He’s a difference maker. I don’t criticize kids like you do but you are biased.
12 got outplayed by two qbs in one game. Sorry not sorry.


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HP did an excellent job of taking Terry out of the game. It was one of those let someone else beat us if you can.

I still say the Tiger's need to find an identity on offense. There just didn't seem to be a ryhme or reason in play calling. It's easy to play bully ball, being all flashy, against the soft part of your schedule but ya hit a wall against like opponents. Then we get all panicky trying to find a play that works.

Commit to the run. Perfect the fundamentals. Get the big boys firing off the ball and into the flow of the game early and often.

Anyway, I'm sure the smart people will figure it out. Jmo on it all.


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XandOs wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:09 am
Tri_State790 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:01 am
BigBelliedBob wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:58 am

“5 straight conference championships”
It was the OVC… Give me a break. 😂😂😂😂
Ovc trophies are more of an embarrassment than an accomplishment. During the Lutz days we made fun of the ovc. Would never took their title serious.
Without Pendleton Ironton would still be in OVC in 2024. Before him we finished 4th in the worst conference in state. Bob Bruney handed the keys of a winner to Coach Lutz. Bruney is the guy who turned Ironton around. Pendleton doesn’t want to be in the OVC. Why do you think this was the last year.
:lol: ..pump the huffy brakes on that ten speed ur ridin on bro… Pendleton ain’t done anything unless he recruits other schools…. R u drivin him to the local basketball gyms, or u the one waxing the tiger bus… :D

he don’t get past Portsmouth without his stud recruits this year..lol


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XandOs wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:09 am
Tri_State790 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:01 am
BigBelliedBob wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:58 am

“5 straight conference championships”
It was the OVC… Give me a break. 😂😂😂😂
Ovc trophies are more of an embarrassment than an accomplishment. During the Lutz days we made fun of the ovc. Would never took their title serious.
Without Pendleton Ironton would still be in OVC in 2024. Before him we finished 4th in the worst conference in state. Bob Bruney handed the keys of a winner to Coach Lutz. Bruney is the guy who turned Ironton around. Pendleton doesn’t want to be in the OVC. Why do you think this was the last year.
How many games did Bruney win after leaving Ironton, just curious


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TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:47 pm
XandOs wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:09 am
Tri_State790 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:01 am

Ovc trophies are more of an embarrassment than an accomplishment. During the Lutz days we made fun of the ovc. Would never took their title serious.
Without Pendleton Ironton would still be in OVC in 2024. Before him we finished 4th in the worst conference in state. Bob Bruney handed the keys of a winner to Coach Lutz. Bruney is the guy who turned Ironton around. Pendleton doesn’t want to be in the OVC. Why do you think this was the last year.
How many games did Bruney win after leaving Ironton, just curious
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FIDO wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:02 pm HP did an excellent job of taking Terry out of the game. It was one of those let someone else beat us if you can.

I still say the Tiger's need to find an identity on offense. There just didn't seem to be a ryhme or reason in play calling. It's easy to play bully ball, being all flashy, against the soft part of your schedule but ya hit a wall against like opponents. Then we get all panicky trying to find a play that works.

Commit to the run. Perfect the fundamentals. Get the big boys firing off the ball and into the flow of the game early and often.

Anyway, I'm sure the smart people will figure it out. Jmo on it all.
Exactly what they need to do!! Have said this all year about Burg, and the same applies to Ironton. Both teams’ identity should be running the ball.

I’m amazed how the Burg OC will have success running the ball yet still revert back to what doesn’t/hasn’t worked. Truly don’t get why “keeping it simple” is so difficult.


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