Valley at coal grove week 2

Izladoom
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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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I don’t even know what to say. You can’t tell me cg was that much better than valley. Cg just didn’t make all of the mistakes. The play calling has been really bad so far. They refuse to keep a rb or te in to help with pass protection. To call a pass play when you have the ball on the one when you’re struggling pass blocking is one of the dumbest calls in the history of football. Valley is loaded with talent. We had the ball inside the 25 yard line 5 times and came away with zero points. I feel sorry for 19 to drop the easy td pass then to fumble the ball. That’s got to be hard on him. I think if they catch that td they win that game because they would have had so much momentum. The players looked defeated after the fumble. They know they are a good team and once they figure some things out they will turn it around I hope.


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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I watched the game tonight and what I seen was they were calling pass plays when 33 was gaining yards every carry. Had the ball on the 1 and tried a qb keeper and lost 5 yards. Should have pounded the ball with 33 other than big plays on defense valley looked pretty good


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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twoboys-02 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:43 pm I watched the game tonight and what I seen was they were calling pass plays when 33 was gaining yards every carry. Had the ball on the 1 and tried a qb keeper and lost 5 yards. Should have pounded the ball with 33 other than big plays on defense valley looked pretty good
33 is one of the best players to ever play at valley the kid runs so hard for not being a big back. Our oline our some pretty big boys and was opening holes all night they struggle in pass protection against gas dlineman but our coach is trying so hard to turn us into a finesse passing offense when we should be lining up and smashing people in the mouth. We have 2 very talented backs let’s use them. Coach gets to cute and he needs to simplify things.


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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I’m not gonna waste my time on this page trying to explain the reasoning to a bunch of people hiding behind a screen name and talking football on here. I will only say this.
Execution was a problem tonight. It starts with everyone on the team to work to get better. We will be fine going forward. We will be a better team as the season goes. Nobody wants us to succeed more than myself. We have a darn good coaching staff.
Izladoom and maybe a couple of others on here don’t agree with that. I’ll sleep just fine tonight knowing that we have a great staff and understanding the reasoning behind what we call.
Hopefully you stay awake worrying about it.


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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Izladoom wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:01 am
twoboys-02 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:43 pm I watched the game tonight and what I seen was they were calling pass plays when 33 was gaining yards every carry. Had the ball on the 1 and tried a qb keeper and lost 5 yards. Should have pounded the ball with 33 other than big plays on defense valley looked pretty good
33 is one of the best players to ever play at valley the kid runs so hard for not being a big back. Our oline our some pretty big boys and was opening holes all night they struggle in pass protection against gas dlineman but our coach is trying so hard to turn us into a finesse passing offense when we should be lining up and smashing people in the mouth. We have 2 very talented backs let’s use them. Coach gets to cute and he needs to simplify things.
Ok, I am now confident we don’t watch the same game. Valley probably didn’t throw the ball 10 times until they were behind. The kept running McNeil and Waughtel. I thought McNeil was fed constantly, did he have 20 carries? I mean you used to complain about him running it too much. If I had a complaint it was that they waited until 3rd and long to throw.

Overall it doesn’t matter. I know this, I don’t know what plays were called or who was supposed to do what. And I KNOW that you don’t.

Enough keyboard bull from me tonight. I have a parade to attend in the morning. Can’t wait.


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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The qb has speed but he tries to run outside every time I think that 33 needs to get the ball 20-25 times a game for them to win. I agree that they will be better after they get a win the defense has looked pretty good tonight 3 long runs for tds but other than that they played pretty good I see them winning some games


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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pmow3 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:51 am I’m not gonna waste my time on this page trying to explain the reasoning to a bunch of people hiding behind a screen name and talking football on here. I will only say this.
Execution was a problem tonight. It starts with everyone on the team to work to get better. We will be fine going forward. We will be a better team as the season goes. Nobody wants us to succeed more than myself. We have a darn good coaching staff.
Izladoom and maybe a couple of others on here don’t agree with that. I’ll sleep just fine tonight knowing that we have a great staff and understanding the reasoning behind what we call.
Hopefully you stay awake worrying about it.
Sometimes ppl just call a spade a spade, I seen nothing of this game tonight but from what I seen of the game last week especially late when Valley could've won it was horrendous offensive play calling. As long as you can sleep knowing that then I doubt anyone is worried about it, you want to blame the kids for poor execution that's fine as long as you can sleep just fine knowing that's who you're calling out.


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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"Just do your job", and everything else will take care of itself. Suggestions on this site will not fix crap. Good for banter but that's about it. The coaches and team leaders will figure it out.


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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greygoose wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:16 am
pmow3 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:51 am I’m not gonna waste my time on this page trying to explain the reasoning to a bunch of people hiding behind a screen name and talking football on here. I will only say this.
Execution was a problem tonight. It starts with everyone on the team to work to get better. We will be fine going forward. We will be a better team as the season goes. Nobody wants us to succeed more than myself. We have a darn good coaching staff.
Izladoom and maybe a couple of others on here don’t agree with that. I’ll sleep just fine tonight knowing that we have a great staff and understanding the reasoning behind what we call.
Hopefully you stay awake worrying about it.
Sometimes ppl just call a spade a spade, I seen nothing of this game tonight but from what I seen of the game last week especially late when Valley could've won it was horrendous offensive play calling. As long as you can sleep knowing that then I doubt anyone is worried about it, you want to blame the kids for poor execution that's fine as long as you can sleep just fine knowing that's who you're calling out.
Blaming kids was not the direction I was going. I mentioned execution of a play as the whole play. From every direction. I feel confident in the entire coaching staff just as I feel confident that the kids will get better. If it came across as If I was blaming kids, then that was not my intention.
I was saying that we will improve once the team and coaching staff put it altogether.
I knew it was a bad idea to comment. lol. But I just think there is more to football and the reasons behind play calls than what you see from the stands.


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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Izladoom wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:01 am
twoboys-02 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:43 pm I watched the game tonight and what I seen was they were calling pass plays when 33 was gaining yards every carry. Had the ball on the 1 and tried a qb keeper and lost 5 yards. Should have pounded the ball with 33 other than big plays on defense valley looked pretty good
33 is one of the best players to ever play at valley the kid runs so hard for not being a big back. Our oline our some pretty big boys and was opening holes all night they struggle in pass protection against gas dlineman but our coach is trying so hard to turn us into a finesse passing offense when we should be lining up and smashing people in the mouth. We have 2 very talented backs let’s use them. Coach gets to cute and he needs to simplify things.
I know my pirates got whooped bad last night, but Izladoom Pence trying to explain football may be more embarrassing.


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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Valley will be fine. Go back and look at their scores from last year against Portsmouth/Coal Grove compared to this season. They’re competitive now, but still learning what it takes to win close games. By end of season, they going to be a tough out in D6 playoffs.

Coal Grove has some studs in their backfield. Fairland probably not the best matchup for them, but the game against Portsmouth will be smashmouth and take about 1.5 hours to play!*


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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Don’t know much about valley or coal grove, but the Murphy kids dad does nothing but run his mouth the whole game, we get it , you wasn’t very good either , but, let it go already.

You sucked , your kid is better than you , you’re not an NFL talent , more like the chief of a 3 man police department.

Grow up goofy !


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Re: Valley at coal grove week 2

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pmow3 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:23 am
greygoose wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:16 am
pmow3 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:51 am I’m not gonna waste my time on this page trying to explain the reasoning to a bunch of people hiding behind a screen name and talking football on here. I will only say this.
Execution was a problem tonight. It starts with everyone on the team to work to get better. We will be fine going forward. We will be a better team as the season goes. Nobody wants us to succeed more than myself. We have a darn good coaching staff.
Izladoom and maybe a couple of others on here don’t agree with that. I’ll sleep just fine tonight knowing that we have a great staff and understanding the reasoning behind what we call.
Hopefully you stay awake worrying about it.
Sometimes ppl just call a spade a spade, I seen nothing of this game tonight but from what I seen of the game last week especially late when Valley could've won it was horrendous offensive play calling. As long as you can sleep knowing that then I doubt anyone is worried about it, you want to blame the kids for poor execution that's fine as long as you can sleep just fine knowing that's who you're calling out.
Blaming kids was not the direction I was going. I mentioned execution of a play as the whole play. From every direction. I feel confident in the entire coaching staff just as I feel confident that the kids will get better. If it came across as If I was blaming kids, then that was not my intention.
I was saying that we will improve once the team and coaching staff put it altogether.
I knew it was a bad idea to comment. lol. But I just think there is more to football and the reasons behind play calls than what you see from the stands.
This is true but you also have to remember that coaches are 100% in control of the play calling and how to attack a defense and prepare for that defense. I think what ppl are saying right now is the play calls aren't putting the kids in the right position to succeed, they're 0-2 and at least what I seen week 1 the play calling was very vanilla and really Valley could be 2-0 but they've gotta come around. At the same time I realize they're breaking in a new QB so there's always growing pains there.


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