WK3 Jackson @ Wheelersburg

[art_vandelay]

Same old stupid ass play calling out of Burg. 3rd and 2 and you run a QB keeper!!

Evan’s burnt his man once tonight. Haven’t went back to it yet.

Same old song and dance!!

Play calling has been and continues to be a joke. OC is completely clueless and should not be allowed near the stadium.

If Woodward is unwilling to make changes, then maybe others need to make some changes.

Well with Woodward also being the AD, who gonna tell him what to do?

Woodward’s earned right to be there as long as he wants in my opinion, but agreed, time for him to make some changes to his staff.*

[Sonny Weaver]

Special teams. Penalties. Injuries. Play calling. Clock management. QB1 play.

Whew… I don’t know where to start. Rough 3 game stretch to start the season.

[art_vandelay]

Special teams. Penalties. Injuries. Play calling. Clock management. QB1 play.

Whew… I don’t know where to start. Rough 3 game stretch to start the season.

There is no QB controversy. Rucker is your best chance to win, and freshmen shouldn’t be on field at Burg.*

[RBH23]

Same old stupid ass play calling out of Burg. 3rd and 2 and you run a QB keeper!!

Evan’s burnt his man once tonight. Haven’t went back to it yet.

Same old song and dance!!

Play calling has been and continues to be a joke. OC is completely clueless and should not be allowed near the stadium.

If Woodward is unwilling to make changes, then maybe others need to make some changes.

Well with Woodward also being the AD, who gonna tell him what to do?

Woodward’s earned right to be there as long as he wants in my opinion, but agreed, time for him to make some changes to his staff.*

Let’s start with the fact that Woodward is a great guy. Truly respect him as a man and what he has done for Wheelersburg.

As AD, he obviously has a lot of power, but he also has a budget that is dependent on football revenues. That revenue will take a hit if the program continues to decline making his job difficult.

The football program is not in a great place, not just because of the losses. It’s what we are seeing on the field: lack of discipline, lack of conditioning, no offensive identity, lack of enthusiasm, etc. This is simply not Burg football, and Woodward is responsible for what we see.

[Larry Fine]

Play calling has been and continues to be a joke. OC is completely clueless and should not be allowed near the stadium.

If Woodward is unwilling to make changes, then maybe others need to make some changes.

Well with Woodward also being the AD, who gonna tell him what to do?

Woodward’s earned right to be there as long as he wants in my opinion, but agreed, time for him to make some changes to his staff.*

Let’s start with the fact that Woodward is a great guy. Truly respect him as a man and what he has done for Wheelersburg.

As AD, he obviously has a lot of power, but he also has a budget that is dependent on football revenues. That revenue will take a hit if the program continues to decline making his job difficult.

The football program is not in a great place, not just because of the losses. It’s what we are seeing on the field: lack of discipline, lack of conditioning, no offensive identity, lack of enthusiasm, etc. This is simply not Burg football, and Woodward is responsible for what we see.

Burg lost to 3 great teams. What are you even talking about

[Sonny Weaver]

Special teams. Penalties. Injuries. Play calling. Clock management. QB1 play.

Whew… I don’t know where to start. Rough 3 game stretch to start the season.

There is no QB controversy. Rucker is your best chance to win, and freshmen shouldn’t be on field at Burg.*

Never said there was a controversy, but all those areas need improvement (can’t help injuries, but they are a concern).

[Sonny Weaver]

I will say tho, the poise in the pocket, timing, delivery and accuracy on QB2s one pass was absolutely excellent

[Licking County Fair]

Go jackson

[art_vandelay]

Special teams. Penalties. Injuries. Play calling. Clock management. QB1 play.

Whew… I don’t know where to start. Rough 3 game stretch to start the season.

There is no QB controversy. Rucker is your best chance to win, and freshmen shouldn’t be on field at Burg.*

Never said there was a controversy, but all those areas need improvement (can’t help injuries, but they are a concern).

My bad…was thinking of some other posts above when I responded to you. Doerr is going to be a player at QB if he is focused on football (he a solid basketball player as well), but freshmen don’t belong on field at Burg.

This coming offseason though could be real interesting at QB1 position.*

[RBH23]

Well with Woodward also being the AD, who gonna tell him what to do?

Woodward’s earned right to be there as long as he wants in my opinion, but agreed, time for him to make some changes to his staff.*

Let’s start with the fact that Woodward is a great guy. Truly respect him as a man and what he has done for Wheelersburg.

As AD, he obviously has a lot of power, but he also has a budget that is dependent on football revenues. That revenue will take a hit if the program continues to decline making his job difficult.

The football program is not in a great place, not just because of the losses. It’s what we are seeing on the field: lack of discipline, lack of conditioning, no offensive identity, lack of enthusiasm, etc. This is simply not Burg football, and Woodward is responsible for what we see.

Burg lost to 3 great teams. What are you even talking about

Three great teams? Ironton is a great team this year, the others are good teams. Wait until the playoffs are over, and let’s come back to this specific point.

As for your question, allow me to explain:
Let’s just take Burg versus Jackson. Overall, Burg leads the series 15-12. That might sound good, but Burg has lost the last five games. So prior to 2019, Jackson had only won seven times in 22 games against Burg. Since, they are 5-0.

And if you look at those five games, the first thing you see is that Burg lost four of them by less than one score. Four close losses! And when you look even deeper, you see how many mistakes Burg made in those losses. Wasn’t as simple as “Jackson just beat them.” Burg contributed to their own demise by making more mistakes than Jackson in every single one of these games.

Extrapolate that to some of the losses to IHS and HP (over the same time period) and you see a Burg team that has become very good at beating themselves through turnovers, penalties, poor play calling, poor time management, lack of half time adjustments, etc.

Burg is not a disciplined team. Burg is not a well-conditioned team. Burg has no offensive identity. In summary, Burg has typically not looked like a well coached team over the past five seasons. This is not Burg football. Clearly a decline in performance.

Also, it’s time to come to the realization that Burg could go 5-5 and even miss the playoffs. They should sweep the SOC, but with this O, it’s difficult to be too confident.

[Larry Fine]

Let’s start with the fact that Woodward is a great guy. Truly respect him as a man and what he has done for Wheelersburg.

As AD, he obviously has a lot of power, but he also has a budget that is dependent on football revenues. That revenue will take a hit if the program continues to decline making his job difficult.

The football program is not in a great place, not just because of the losses. It’s what we are seeing on the field: lack of discipline, lack of conditioning, no offensive identity, lack of enthusiasm, etc. This is simply not Burg football, and Woodward is responsible for what we see.

Burg lost to 3 great teams. What are you even talking about

Three great teams? Ironton is a great team this year, the others are good teams. Wait until the playoffs are over, and let’s come back to this specific point.

As for your question, allow me to explain:
Let’s just take Burg versus Jackson. Overall, Burg leads the series 15-12. That might sound good, but Burg has lost the last five games. So prior to 2019, Jackson had only won seven times in 22 games against Burg. Since, they are 5-0.

And if you look at those five games, the first thing you see is that Burg lost four of them by less than one score. Four close losses! And when you look even deeper, you see how many mistakes Burg made in those losses. Wasn’t as simple as “Jackson just beat them.” Burg contributed to their own demise by making more mistakes than Jackson in every single one of these games.

Extrapolate that to some of the losses to IHS and HP (over the same time period) and you see a Burg team that has become very good at beating themselves through turnovers, penalties, poor play calling, poor time management, lack of half time adjustments, etc.

Burg is not a disciplined team. Burg is not a well-conditioned team. Burg has no offensive identity. In summary, Burg has typically not looked like a well coached team over the past five seasons. This is not Burg football. Clearly a decline in performance.

Also, it’s time to come to the realization that Burg could go 5-5 and even miss the playoffs. They should sweep the SOC, but with this O, it’s difficult to be too confident.

Yes we are a different animal this year. But Jackson is very young , this was the year to beat Jackson. You had them at home and still didn’t get it done .

[Jackson Football]

Let’s start with the fact that Woodward is a great guy. Truly respect him as a man and what he has done for Wheelersburg.

As AD, he obviously has a lot of power, but he also has a budget that is dependent on football revenues. That revenue will take a hit if the program continues to decline making his job difficult.

The football program is not in a great place, not just because of the losses. It’s what we are seeing on the field: lack of discipline, lack of conditioning, no offensive identity, lack of enthusiasm, etc. This is simply not Burg football, and Woodward is responsible for what we see.

Burg lost to 3 great teams. What are you even talking about

Three great teams? Ironton is a great team this year, the others are good teams. Wait until the playoffs are over, and let’s come back to this specific point.

As for your question, allow me to explain:
Let’s just take Burg versus Jackson. Overall, Burg leads the series 15-12. That might sound good, but Burg has lost the last five games. So prior to 2019, Jackson had only won seven times in 22 games against Burg. Since, they are 5-0.

And if you look at those five games, the first thing you see is that Burg lost four of them by less than one score. Four close losses! And when you look even deeper, you see how many mistakes Burg made in those losses. Wasn’t as simple as “Jackson just beat them.” Burg contributed to their own demise by making more mistakes than Jackson in every single one of these games.

Extrapolate that to some of the losses to IHS and HP (over the same time period) and you see a Burg team that has become very good at beating themselves through turnovers, penalties, poor play calling, poor time management, lack of half time adjustments, etc.

Burg is not a disciplined team. Burg is not a well-conditioned team. Burg has no offensive identity. In summary, Burg has typically not looked like a well coached team over the past five seasons. This is not Burg football. Clearly a decline in performance.

Also, it’s time to come to the realization that Burg could go 5-5 and even miss the playoffs. They should sweep the SOC, but with this O, it’s difficult to be too confident.

The Jackson and Burg series started back up in 2012. Burg won the first 2 games pretty easy. Jackson was 11-9 those two years. 2014 Jackson thumped burg. Burg won the next 4 , the Holden years. 2019 - 2024 Jackson has handled Burg.


As far as the game this year . Jackson is young at some key positions and they’re learning on the job. However Jackson was much more physical than Burg today.

[RBH23]

Burg lost to 3 great teams. What are you even talking about

Three great teams? Ironton is a great team this year, the others are good teams. Wait until the playoffs are over, and let’s come back to this specific point.

As for your question, allow me to explain:
Let’s just take Burg versus Jackson. Overall, Burg leads the series 15-12. That might sound good, but Burg has lost the last five games. So prior to 2019, Jackson had only won seven times in 22 games against Burg. Since, they are 5-0.

And if you look at those five games, the first thing you see is that Burg lost four of them by less than one score. Four close losses! And when you look even deeper, you see how many mistakes Burg made in those losses. Wasn’t as simple as “Jackson just beat them.” Burg contributed to their own demise by making more mistakes than Jackson in every single one of these games.

Extrapolate that to some of the losses to IHS and HP (over the same time period) and you see a Burg team that has become very good at beating themselves through turnovers, penalties, poor play calling, poor time management, lack of half time adjustments, etc.

Burg is not a disciplined team. Burg is not a well-conditioned team. Burg has no offensive identity. In summary, Burg has typically not looked like a well coached team over the past five seasons. This is not Burg football. Clearly a decline in performance.

Also, it’s time to come to the realization that Burg could go 5-5 and even miss the playoffs. They should sweep the SOC, but with this O, it’s difficult to be too confident.

Yes we are a different animal this year. But Jackson is very young , this was the year to beat Jackson. You had them at home and still didn’t get it done .

Burg has had many chances to beat Jackson over the past five years. Burg coaches keep coming up with creative ways to lose this game.

[RBH23]

Burg lost to 3 great teams. What are you even talking about

Three great teams? Ironton is a great team this year, the others are good teams. Wait until the playoffs are over, and let’s come back to this specific point.

As for your question, allow me to explain:
Let’s just take Burg versus Jackson. Overall, Burg leads the series 15-12. That might sound good, but Burg has lost the last five games. So prior to 2019, Jackson had only won seven times in 22 games against Burg. Since, they are 5-0.

And if you look at those five games, the first thing you see is that Burg lost four of them by less than one score. Four close losses! And when you look even deeper, you see how many mistakes Burg made in those losses. Wasn’t as simple as “Jackson just beat them.” Burg contributed to their own demise by making more mistakes than Jackson in every single one of these games.

Extrapolate that to some of the losses to IHS and HP (over the same time period) and you see a Burg team that has become very good at beating themselves through turnovers, penalties, poor play calling, poor time management, lack of half time adjustments, etc.

Burg is not a disciplined team. Burg is not a well-conditioned team. Burg has no offensive identity. In summary, Burg has typically not looked like a well coached team over the past five seasons. This is not Burg football. Clearly a decline in performance.

Also, it’s time to come to the realization that Burg could go 5-5 and even miss the playoffs. They should sweep the SOC, but with this O, it’s difficult to be too confident.

The Jackson and Burg series started back up in 2012. Burg won the first 2 games pretty easy. Jackson was 11-9 those two years. 2014 Jackson thumped burg. Burg won the next 4 , the Holden years. 2019 - 2024 Jackson has handled Burg.


As far as the game this year . Jackson is young at some key positions and they’re learning on the job. However Jackson was much more physical than Burg today.

Burg’s best run against Jackson were the 1985-1989 seasons. Burg beat Jackson like a rented mule with one game being 65-6 and three others where Burg won by over 40. Far more dominating than when Holden played.

But of course those were Ed Miller years. That style of football is no longer accepted at Burg.

[Jackson Football]

Three great teams? Ironton is a great team this year, the others are good teams. Wait until the playoffs are over, and let’s come back to this specific point.

As for your question, allow me to explain:
Let’s just take Burg versus Jackson. Overall, Burg leads the series 15-12. That might sound good, but Burg has lost the last five games. So prior to 2019, Jackson had only won seven times in 22 games against Burg. Since, they are 5-0.

And if you look at those five games, the first thing you see is that Burg lost four of them by less than one score. Four close losses! And when you look even deeper, you see how many mistakes Burg made in those losses. Wasn’t as simple as “Jackson just beat them.” Burg contributed to their own demise by making more mistakes than Jackson in every single one of these games.

Extrapolate that to some of the losses to IHS and HP (over the same time period) and you see a Burg team that has become very good at beating themselves through turnovers, penalties, poor play calling, poor time management, lack of half time adjustments, etc.

Burg is not a disciplined team. Burg is not a well-conditioned team. Burg has no offensive identity. In summary, Burg has typically not looked like a well coached team over the past five seasons. This is not Burg football. Clearly a decline in performance.

Also, it’s time to come to the realization that Burg could go 5-5 and even miss the playoffs. They should sweep the SOC, but with this O, it’s difficult to be too confident.

The Jackson and Burg series started back up in 2012. Burg won the first 2 games pretty easy. Jackson was 11-9 those two years. 2014 Jackson thumped burg. Burg won the next 4 , the Holden years. 2019 - 2024 Jackson has handled Burg.


As far as the game this year . Jackson is young at some key positions and they’re learning on the job. However Jackson was much more physical than Burg today.

Burg’s best run against Jackson were the 1985-1989 seasons. Burg beat Jackson like a rented mule with one game being 65-6 and three others where Burg won by over 40. Far more dominating than when Holden played.

But of course those were Ed Miller years. That style of football is no longer accepted at Burg.

Jackson football was rough in the 80s. Just be thankful we didn’t play in 2020 or it would be 6 losses in a row.

[RBH23]

The Jackson and Burg series started back up in 2012. Burg won the first 2 games pretty easy. Jackson was 11-9 those two years. 2014 Jackson thumped burg. Burg won the next 4 , the Holden years. 2019 - 2024 Jackson has handled Burg.


As far as the game this year . Jackson is young at some key positions and they’re learning on the job. However Jackson was much more physical than Burg today.

Burg’s best run against Jackson were the 1985-1989 seasons. Burg beat Jackson like a rented mule with one game being 65-6 and three others where Burg won by over 40. Far more dominating than when Holden played.

But of course those were Ed Miller years. That style of football is no longer accepted at Burg.

Jackson football was rough in the 80s. Just be thankful we didn’t play in 2020 or it would be 6 losses in a row.

First time I remember playing against Jackson was my freshman year. Initial thought was “these boys are big! They are going to kick our a$$.” We won by over 40

Burg in 2020 had a decent team, but I’m certain they would have lost to Jackson as well. That’s Burg’s current MO!!

[art_vandelay]

Burg fanbase gettin some karma this year. All that cryin about transfers while they are tanking for daddy ball. Smh

Yep

Are burg coaches more interested in pleasing their parent friends so they can stay in the "superior" friend group? Lol

I’ve followed Burg football for years. After seeing some of the players that have been on the field as underclassmen for Burg in last few years, this somehow a valid question.

Ed Miller and Larry Hall didn’t have freshmen/sophomores on field unless they were special. And they didn’t have 75 player rosters at their disposal either.*

[RBH23]

Yep

Are burg coaches more interested in pleasing their parent friends so they can stay in the "superior" friend group? Lol

I’ve followed Burg football for years. After seeing some of the players that have been on the field as underclassmen for Burg in last few years, this somehow a valid question.

Ed Miller and Larry Hall didn’t have freshmen/sophomores on field unless they were special. And they didn’t have 75 player rosters at their disposal either.*

Ed simply did not play freshmen even if they were the second coming; at least when I was at Burg. Didn’t even dress them for varsity. Closest freshmen came to playing varsity was holding blow bags for the varsity team when JV had a game.

Also true about roster size. Again, Ed didn’t allow freshmen to dress varsity.

[Oldtimer55]

Are burg coaches more interested in pleasing their parent friends so they can stay in the "superior" friend group? Lol

I’ve followed Burg football for years. After seeing some of the players that have been on the field as underclassmen for Burg in last few years, this somehow a valid question.

Ed Miller and Larry Hall didn’t have freshmen/sophomores on field unless they were special. And they didn’t have 75 player rosters at their disposal either.*

Ed simply did not play freshmen even if they were the second coming; at least when I was at Burg. Didn’t even dress them for varsity. Closest freshmen came to playing varsity was holding blow bags for the varsity team when JV had a game.

Also true about roster size. Again, Ed didn’t allow freshmen to dress varsity.

Same with Larry

[wobycat]

Congrats Jackson. Good luck moving forward