Pulling some of your starters

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Twisted1
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Pulling some of your starters

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At what point of a game when down big should your coach be smart and full some of the starters ?


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Unioto usually gives up a score a game when the twos are in but gets guys time and rest your starters. We don’t sub as much on offensive line but they do a good job of pulling guys


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Twisted1 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:37 am At what point of a game when down big should your coach be smart and full some of the starters ?
This sounds like you’re asking when the team that’s losing should pull their starters. Is this correct? Because you’re saying down big.


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Yes when you are losing


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That depends on the team, one year zt beat us so bad they had jv in and we kept our starters in but if we would of put our jv in they would of beat us twice as bad. Some coaches wait too long to concede the game. But if it’s that bad running clock shortens the games now and young guys can play on Saturday


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As somebody who never played organized football, I've wondered why the substitutions have to be done wholesale. For example, they never put in the JV running backs with the starting offensive line. I suppose it's about playing who you practice with?


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Twisted1 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:37 am At what point of a game when down big should your coach be smart and full some of the starters ?
What are your thoughts on the subject?


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With a running clock now things are a lot different. Just depends on what the team that's leading is doing really, it's not up to the losing team to decide to sub out if the winning team still has starters in.


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I guess it depends on #s your team has and do u risk your starters when u really can't afford 2 have someone go out late in a game when the game is way out of reach


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Twisted1 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:32 pm I guess it depends on #s your team has and do u risk your starters when u really can't afford 2 have someone go out late in a game when the game is way out of reach
Team that's leading has to be the first to pull the starters because no coach is going to send his JV kids out there against starters point blank and it's kind of silly even asking at what point should the team losing pull them for that simple fact.


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I'm glad you think it's silly and that's your opinion, and my opinion is it's stupid not 2 atleast pull the RB and QB if you have lower #s and really can't afford 2 get anyone hurt


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Twisted1 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:16 pm I'm glad you think it's silly and that's your opinion, and my opinion is it's stupid not 2 atleast pull the RB and QB if you have lower #s and really can't afford 2 get anyone hurt
SO, if the other team still has their starters in and if you're lower on numbers you're probably putting in a freshman QB and or RB against juniors and seniors that makes more sense?? COME ON, get out of here with that


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Losing team should pull their starters first and make it fairly obvious that they are doing so. That’s conceding the game and signals it to the opposite team.

If the winning team pulls their starters and the losing team scores on a couple of straight possessions because they still have their starters in, then it’s a killer for those backups who got put in to finish the game.

Maybe football is different, but that’s how other sports work.


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danicalifornia wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:53 pm Losing team should pull their starters first and make it fairly obvious that they are doing so. That’s conceding the game and signals it to the opposite team.

If the winning team pulls their starters and the losing team scores on a couple of straight possessions because they still have their starters in, then it’s a killer for those backups who got put in to finish the game.

Maybe football is different, but that’s how other sports work.
It’s rare that I disagree a bit with you but I respectfully disagree on this one. I think the winning team should pull their starters first once the game is definitely in hand….kind of a sign of sportsmanship in many cases. In today’s sports it gets more and more difficult to tell because it seems fewer and fewer teams even attempt to use some clock.

If it’s 49-0 mid 3rd I think main players should be pulled for sure and if the other team leaves in their starters (this often looks desperate by losing coach trying to make it look better than it was) and makes it 49-14…still a huge telling win and a lot of reps for your backups.

The worst though is in basketball, basically any level under the collegiate level when a team is just obviously better and coach pulls their starters and losing team decides to all out press with their starters….that ridiculously weak on their part (seems like this happens in junior high more than it should


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danicalifornia wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:53 pm Losing team should pull their starters first and make it fairly obvious that they are doing so. That’s conceding the game and signals it to the opposite team.

If the winning team pulls their starters and the losing team scores on a couple of straight possessions because they still have their starters in, then it’s a killer for those backups who got put in to finish the game.

Maybe football is different, but that’s how other sports work.
Why is it a killer for those backups if they give up a score or 2?? Didn't affect the outcome and if the other team left their starters in they got to go against better competition to prepare them. I see zero reason why the losing team should have to "concede" it's called sportsmanship and that's shown by the team winning.


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The winning team up by multiple scores ( running clock) , should pull their starters. If the losing team wants to get some of their younger players game time experience, I'd say go for it. There may be a need for a few starters to get extra work. Many teams are playing lots of sophomores. Let them get the experience for future years.


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Y’all make some good points, so I’m okay with being in the wrong on this one.

The running clock should make the winning team feel way more comfortable with pulling their starters, that’s for sure.


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danicalifornia wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:38 am Y’all make some good points, so I’m okay with being in the wrong on this one.

The running clock should make the winning team feel way more comfortable with pulling their starters, that’s for sure.
I know that you would never run up a score on me or others on here. All good.


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I think the running clock is bad for both teams... most coaches aren't gonna completely murder a weaker team... and will sub accordingly... if the team that's down 35 wants to keep their kids in..then so beit.. the in game reps that both teams get are valuable... the running clock takes away a ton of meaningful plays for the subs of really good teams...and for the starters of weaker teams against subs that they may match up with better... takes the reps away on just time allowance alone... I get both sides of it.. I just think it was always self regulated and would still be..


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JV’s play on Saturday fellas. I can’t coach your team and my team at the same time. It’s your job to stop us and keep us from scoring, not mine.


I know, I was D1 fellas
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