What is it going to take for Wheelersburg to be competitive with Ironton again?

[798924]

The gap has widened.

Ironton in 24 played Wheelersburg twice: two running clocks and almost 100 points later Wheelersburg football no longer has an answer for Ironton.

What has to change for burg to compete & get beyond their own region? Burg has only been able to manage winning their region 4 times in around 4 decades and havent sniffed a state title game in approaching a decade. It seems the wider the gap between Ironton & burg becomes, the less buy in we see on the filed during games. Burg seems like they get discouraged and quit in tough games the last couple seasons. Was it wise for a HC of a program that has taken a step back to now also run double duty as AD? Will burg reverse course or continue to fall back as a football program? What needs to change?

[CuckooNest]

For 2025 if I’m Woodward I’m either going all in on some power running wing-t, or, I’m spending the offseason season turning Kenyon Evans into a run and throw spread QB and going 4-5 wide running a up tempo spread.

[Oldtimer55]

For 2025 if I’m Woodward I’m either going all in on some power running wing-t, or, I’m spending the offseason season turning Kenyon Evans into a run and throw spread QB and going 4-5 wide running a up tempo spread.

I actually like that idea! But it won’t happen with the QB returning. Burg also lost most of their lineman so many holes to fill

[fielddaddy]

Right now Ironton is miles ahead of Wheelersburg.
And it’s not because of Transfers do they help yes.
But Ironton players are required to be dedicated to the program with working out in the weight room.
And it is starting at the lower levels and growing from there.
And continuing to schedule up helps to.
Can Burg turn it around yes.
But will take finding what is tight for their program and implementing it from the lower levels.
Like I said Ironton’s coaches demand dedication to the program and it has paid off with a title this year and maybe the next two years with the way it looks.

[TigerBob]

Wheelersburg has been competitive with Ironton every year in the last five except for 2024. Ironton was at a program high while Wheelersburg was near their low.

2023 was 17-14 Ironton
2022 was 12-3 Ironton
2021 Wheelersburg actually won one!
2020 would have been Ironton by a score or two
2019 was Ironton’s biggest win in the series for a long time, 30-6

My guess is, come September, it will be a competitive game. Ironton will likely be favored, but I doubt it’s going to look like it did in the regional finals unless Shaun Terry regains eligibility.

[TigersGameDayFan]

Wheelersburg has been competitive with Ironton every year in the last five except for 2024. Ironton was at a program high while Wheelersburg was near their low.

2023 was 17-14 Ironton
2022 was 12-3 Ironton
2021 Wheelersburg actually won one!
2020 would have been Ironton by a score or two
2019 was Ironton’s biggest win in the series for a long time, 30-6

My guess is, come September, it will be a competitive game. Ironton will likely be favored, but I doubt it’s going to look like it did in the regional finals unless Shaun Terry regains eligibility.

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[BurgFan43]

All I read on this thread is a bunch of talking heads who just think they can see the future. Every year is different with new talent coming in each year in various positions. If this game wasn’t going to be competitive then it wouldn’t be on the schedule.

You may want to read OHSAA sports regulation 9.1 and 9.2 before talking about offseason requirements and dedication to workouts. There can be no required attendance, no skill training/coaching by coaches and there can’t even be any sports related equipment at these workouts like a football. The penalty is one calendar year in Bylaw 11 in the no contact period.

I assure you that the Burg will be ready to battle at the Ed week 6!! Hoist the Jolly Roger and be ready to fire the cannons!!

[Rolltanks]

Most years I would take burg over ironton. To me they are the historically better team

[avalanche]

All I read on this thread is a bunch of talking heads who just think they can see the future. Every year is different with new talent coming in each year in various positions. If this game wasn’t going to be competitive then it wouldn’t be on the schedule.

You may want to read OHSAA sports regulation 9.1 and 9.2 before talking about offseason requirements and dedication to workouts. There can be no required attendance, no skill training/coaching by coaches and there can’t even be any sports related equipment at these workouts like a football. The penalty is one calendar year in Bylaw 11 in the no contact period.

I assure you that the Burg will be ready to battle at the Ed week 6!! Hoist the Jolly Roger and be ready to fire the cannons!!

Dude, you're doing the AD chat all over. You just asked for opinions than you back handedly insult posters for having an opinion. I've been on this site for 16 years, and you're by far one of the strangest posters when it comes to positing style. I am not sure if you actually want to have a dialogue or you just want to argue with people and get them all up-in-arms. It appears you are trolling in several threads. I want to like you, but I have seen many posters like you on this site ruin entire threads because you feel you're some sort of authority on the board.

The game is on the schedule because they're rivals. The games last year were not competitive. In fact, there is a good chance they won't be again next season.

What do the OHSAA sports regs have to do with Ironton's voluntary workouts? Go look at their social media and look at 50+ kids strong at 6am conditioning workouts. Just because they're voluntary in nature doesn't mean one schools kids aren't more dedicated.

I honestly feel like you want to act like an expert on all things Ohio High School Sports, but simply stating a rule without actually knowing real context makes you look more ignorant to how they're actually applied.

Ironton 38
Wheelersburg 6

Mark it down.

[Larry Fine]

Most years I would take burg over ironton. To me they are the historically better team

You’re nuts

[fielddaddy]

All I read on this thread is a bunch of talking heads who just think they can see the future. Every year is different with new talent coming in each year in various positions. If this game wasn’t going to be competitive then it wouldn’t be on the schedule.

You may want to read OHSAA sports regulation 9.1 and 9.2 before talking about offseason requirements and dedication to workouts. There can be no required attendance, no skill training/coaching by coaches and there can’t even be any sports related equipment at these workouts like a football. The penalty is one calendar year in Bylaw 11 in the no contact period.

I assure you that the Burg will be ready to battle at the Ed week 6!! Hoist the Jolly Roger and be ready to fire the cannons!!

I never once said they was forced workouts.
They are voluntary I did say Ironton’s coaches demand dedication demands and expects dedication to the program.
Nothing wrong with that either.
As it stands 11 athletes of the Ironton football program is advancing to the next level of football from Division 1 to NAIA.
That is because they bought into a program that’s want their players to be the best.
So quote all the rules and regulations you want.
But fact is you may want to inform yourself about a program before commenting.
DoesBurg workouts 6 in the morning I do not know.
Does burg have Football clinics for all grades to help players become better QB’s or WR’s and such I don’t know.
Ironton does and they are voluntary and free.
That helps make a good program great.

[Rolltanks]

Most years I would take burg over ironton. To me they are the historically better team

You’re nuts

Over the last 25 years they have played very good against teams I consider good teams, doesn’t mean they are better every year but more impressive to me. I’m sure you disagree but last year ironton beat burg, prep,Hartley,and lc. All great wins, the other teams they played I could care less about. I’ve seen burg play teams from Ohio like coldwater that are great programs and they always play good. Last year ironton had some great players we will see if it continues. Now I’ll make both fan bases mad by saying I’ll take Hintons Amanda teams as the best small school teams in this area. Again just my opinion I’ve been proven wrong plenty.

[BurgFan43]

All I read on this thread is a bunch of talking heads who just think they can see the future. Every year is different with new talent coming in each year in various positions. If this game wasn’t going to be competitive then it wouldn’t be on the schedule.

You may want to read OHSAA sports regulation 9.1 and 9.2 before talking about offseason requirements and dedication to workouts. There can be no required attendance, no skill training/coaching by coaches and there can’t even be any sports related equipment at these workouts like a football. The penalty is one calendar year in Bylaw 11 in the no contact period.

I assure you that the Burg will be ready to battle at the Ed week 6!! Hoist the Jolly Roger and be ready to fire the cannons!!

Dude, you're doing the AD chat all over. You just asked for opinions than you back handedly insult posters for having an opinion. I've been on this site for 16 years, and you're by far one of the strangest posters when it comes to positing style. I am not sure if you actually want to have a dialogue or you just want to argue with people and get them all up-in-arms. It appears you are trolling in several threads. I want to like you, but I have seen many posters like you on this site ruin entire threads because you feel you're some sort of authority on the board.

The game is on the schedule because they're rivals. The games last year were not competitive. In fact, there is a good chance they won't be again next season.

What do the OHSAA sports regs have to do with Ironton's voluntary workouts? Go look at their social media and look at 50+ kids strong at 6am conditioning workouts. Just because they're voluntary in nature doesn't mean one schools kids aren't more dedicated.

I honestly feel like you want to act like an expert on all things Ohio High School Sports, but simply stating a rule without actually knowing real context makes you look more ignorant to how they're actually applied.

Ironton 38
Wheelersburg 6

Mark it down.

Here is another example of just a talking head who only sees one side of the fence. I did not ask for opinion as I was responding to comments in the thread and providing factual information. Here you are in Cincy responding to a thread for who knows what reason.

I know you don’t like facts but the by-laws in the OHSAA is just that. You can’t deny or try to twist what you can or can’t do. One responder did say they are required workout by the coaches which is against OHSAA no contact policy during this time of the year. They also can not provide clinics to HS age kids at this time not provide any instruction. It is just workouts and voluntary at that. Maybe your buddies need to read the bylaws clearly stated on OHSAA website.

Do I believe it is great that they have 50 kids out at 6 am for a voluntary workout?? Absolutely, just as long as they are meeting the guidelines of the state. Every good program right now has a weight program going on including Burg but it is just that.

You can call me whatever you like but you are just that… a talking head who doesn’t like when something is brought to light or has a different opinion than you have. You just need to move on and quit responding to me if you don’t like what I say.


Burg 21
Ironton 20

With no Terry, this game will be a different story. Nobody can deny he was a game changer, but he is gone.


Raise the Jolly Roger and fire up the cannons!!

[Larry Fine]

Most years I would take burg over ironton. To me they are the historically better team

You’re nuts

Over the last 25 years they have played very good against teams I consider good teams, doesn’t mean they are better every year but more impressive to me. I’m sure you disagree but last year ironton beat burg, prep,Hartley,and lc. All great wins, the other teams they played I could care less about. I’ve seen burg play teams from Ohio like coldwater that are great programs and they always play good. Last year ironton had some great players we will see if it continues. Now I’ll make both fan bases mad by saying I’ll take Hintons Amanda teams as the best small school teams in this area. Again just my opinion I’ve been proven wrong plenty.

Other than the Vass era , we have dominated Wheelersburg.

[Rolltanks]

You’re nuts

Over the last 25 years they have played very good against teams I consider good teams, doesn’t mean they are better every year but more impressive to me. I’m sure you disagree but last year ironton beat burg, prep,Hartley,and lc. All great wins, the other teams they played I could care less about. I’ve seen burg play teams from Ohio like coldwater that are great programs and they always play good. Last year ironton had some great players we will see if it continues. Now I’ll make both fan bases mad by saying I’ll take Hintons Amanda teams as the best small school teams in this area. Again just my opinion I’ve been proven wrong plenty.

Other than the Vass era , we have dominated Wheelersburg.

Very well could be I saw ironton win a title when they were d3, I had never really heard about them in d5 untill recently but I’ve seen burg in the playoffs several times since 2010.

[Larry Fine]

Over the last 25 years they have played very good against teams I consider good teams, doesn’t mean they are better every year but more impressive to me. I’m sure you disagree but last year ironton beat burg, prep,Hartley,and lc. All great wins, the other teams they played I could care less about. I’ve seen burg play teams from Ohio like coldwater that are great programs and they always play good. Last year ironton had some great players we will see if it continues. Now I’ll make both fan bases mad by saying I’ll take Hintons Amanda teams as the best small school teams in this area. Again just my opinion I’ve been proven wrong plenty.

Other than the Vass era , we have dominated Wheelersburg.

Very well could be I saw ironton win a title when they were d3, I had never really heard about them in d5 untill recently but I’ve seen burg in the playoffs several times since 2010.

Ok, you’re not really familiar with the history of Ironton football.

[TigersGameDayFan]

Most years I would take burg over ironton. To me they are the historically better team

Thank god you said "To me" bc to everyone else you make zero sense. Historically Ironton is one of the best programs in state of Ohio history. Burg has a fantastic history but they are not close to Ironton. End of story.

[Rolltanks]

Other than the Vass era , we have dominated Wheelersburg.

Very well could be I saw ironton win a title when they were d3, I had never really heard about them in d5 untill recently but I’ve seen burg in the playoffs several times since 2010.

Ok, you’re not really familiar with the history of Ironton football.

I’m from north west Ohio, when I moved to this area I only knew about Amanda burg and nelsonville never heard of ironton sept for when they made a title run. I liked the team they had with carrico, then I saw on here how many d1 guys they had. This was after Carrico I saw them play Jackson. Only d1 guys I saw was qb from Jackson and a tall wideout from ironton. Watched them play prep when terry was a junior I think and they didn’t get passed mid field. Last year they were fun to watch terry was beast. But I think with any team in this area that I’ve seen recently to win it all it helps that all the best small schools are 6 and 7. Lc was a big game and ironton was good enough up front to win

[Rolltanks]

Most years I would take burg over ironton. To me they are the historically better team

Thank god you said "To me" bc to everyone else you make zero sense. Historically Ironton is one of the best programs in state of Ohio history. Burg has a fantastic history but they are not close to Ironton. End of story.

You may be right but like I said I never really followed big divisions other than going to title games. Most teams I grew up around were all small division schools other than senior high

[TigersGameDayFan]

Most years I would take burg over ironton. To me they are the historically better team

Thank god you said "To me" bc to everyone else you make zero sense. Historically Ironton is one of the best programs in state of Ohio history. Burg has a fantastic history but they are not close to Ironton. End of story.

You may be right but like I said I never really followed big divisions other than going to title games. Most teams I grew up around were all small division schools other than senior high

Understand that man. Ironton's program runs deep into the early 1900s. It certainly something you should look into if that interest you bc they have a ton of history. Also if you have never been to a game @ Ironton. Would recommend going to check one out. It is a fun atmosphere for small town football.