Ironton 22 VS Wheelersburg 23 - FINAL

[osu 77]

Great Game!!!!!

I feel for the Ironton Kids.

Good luck both teams the rest of the season

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

THE PICTURE TELLS NOTHING. IT IS TOO BLURRY, HECK YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING. BUT FOR THE HECK OF IT, I PLAYED THE VIEO OVER AND OVER , JUST LIKE A REPLAY OFFICIAL. JUST THAT VERY INSTANT OF THE CATCH, AND LOOKING AT THE FEET. WHAT I SAW WAS A TREMENDOUSLY WILD TOUCHDOWN, WITH A FOOT INBOUNDS, AND POSSESION OF THE BALL. YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE 1 FOOT IN BOUNDS, DOES NOT MATTER WHICH ONE. IF YOU HAVE POSSESSION. WHICH I THINK , HE UNDOUBTEDLY HAD.

A GREAT ENDING TO WHAT IS BECOMING ONE OF THE BEST RIVALRY GAMES ANYWHERE AROUND. YES, THEY ARE SMALLER SCHOOLS. BUT EACH WITH HUGE FAN BASES, AND KNOWLEDGEABLE FANS.

[BlindWhiteHat]

Question for Burg fans. When does cramping start?

I'd think you'd know your own cycle well enough to know when you're going to start cramping. Maybe you're due for a visit to your OB/GYN.

[BlindWhiteHat]

The receiver must have one foot in before touching out of bounds in high school. The video tells nothing because it's a poor angle. The fact is the official coming in from the left had to have the best view of anyone in the house. If he said it's a catch, it would be hard to argue.

[docsavage]

If there were room for debate, this might be the most studied piece of film since
Zapruder (at least, in Ironton and Wheelersburg). As it is, the player made the catch
...refs called it a touchdown...Burg wins...Ironton loses. On to Week Two!

[ItownBrowns]

I certainly could not tell whether he was in or out. The official seemed to have pretty good position so if he says he's in thats good enough for me. Great catch and body control, not a bad throw either. Actually the defense was'nt bad on that play, maybe a hair too late and too short. I hate to see db's go up for jumpballs like that. Size the guy up and deliver a shot to ribs, if he hangs on after that he's earned it. My only question for the officials on here is would you flag that kid for spiking the ball, much less right at your feet with an official standing right in front of him asking for the ball? I'm not saying I would, but I have seen things like that called many times. Had it been, the ending may not have changed but it certainly would have been more interesting. I bring this up so players who see that might realize officials do call such things an unsportsmanlike penalty. The thing that probably saved him was that he did not do it in the direction of the I'town kids.

[seasick80]

These 2 (shank and Stegman) have been playing catch for a long time. They seem to have gotten the timing down. Also, its hard to stick someone when your still backpedaling. But i get your point. That great catch Creed made on burg a few years ago (waverly kid) would have gone for not if the safety would have drilled him instead of going for an uncatchable interception. He had a bee line on him. Just kids.

[moonshine]

Good job Burg! Wat to put it to those tiggers!

[Burg_Grad_77]

I certainly could not tell whether he was in or out. The official seemed to have pretty good position so if he says he's in thats good enough for me. Great catch and body control, not a bad throw either. Actually the defense was'nt bad on that play, maybe a hair too late and too short. I hate to see db's go up for jumpballs like that. Size the guy up and deliver a shot to ribs, if he hangs on after that he's earned it. My only question for the officials on here is would you flag that kid for spiking the ball, much less right at your feet with an official standing right in front of him asking for the ball? I'm not saying I would, but I have seen things like that called many times. Had it been, the ending may not have changed but it certainly would have been more interesting. I bring this up so players who see that might realize officials do call such things an unsportsmanlike penalty. The thing that probably saved him was that he did not do it in the direction of the I'town kids.

Just where do you see him "spike" the ball? I have watched that video quite a few times and all I see is a kid that is very excited about just making the possible game winning catch against Ironton get up and as he is jumping up in the air he tosses the ball towards the sidelines. He in no way, shape, or form "spikes" the ball. The thing that probably kept it from being called is the fact that he didn't spike it, he tossed it out of bounds instead of handing it to the official. Hell, he was probably so excited about just making that catch he never even saw the official standing there. He just wanted to go celebrate with his teamates.

The Burg lost a game at Ironton on a BS call of "spiking" the ball a few years back when Drew Spradlin made a simlilar catch and was called for spiking the ball. I saw the replay on WSAZ later that night and didn't see it myself. It just looked a kid that was excited about making a great catch get and toss the ball out of bounds instead of handing it the officials.

[SportsFiend]

This was a true nail biter and both teams were outstanding. Those are the kind of games I like to see.

I was especially proud of the grass fairy who locked this game up for the Burg. Takes a soccer player to win a football game. Very proud of you Aaron.

[BlindWhiteHat]

BG77, what exactly would you define as a "spike"? I personally wouldn't have called a penalty on that play but I wouldn't exactly say he "tossed" the ball either.

I think that officials need to look at the intent of the action when deciding whether something like that should be unsportsmanlike. If the player is drawing attention to himself or showing up another player, I think an unsportsmanlike penalty is warranted. I don't think that was the case with this player. It was truly excitement on his part and he didn't draw attention to himself or show up an opponent with his actions. For me, it was just a player excited about making a big play.

As far as the "BS" play you described from a few years back; we'll have to agree to disagree.

[The Riepo Man]

That was no spike...NFL players spike the ball, and by spike I mean throw the ball to the ground with full force not jump up and down in a hurry to celebrate and have the ball go to the ground quickly like that

[Burg_Grad_77]

BG77, what exactly would you define as a "spike"? I personally wouldn't have called a penalty on that play but I wouldn't exactly say he "tossed" the ball either.

I think that officials need to look at the intent of the action when deciding whether something like that should be unsportsmanlike. If the player is drawing attention to himself or showing up another player, I think an unsportsmanlike penalty is warranted. I don't think that was the case with this player. It was truly excitement on his part and he didn't draw attention to himself or show up an opponent with his actions. For me, it was just a player excited about making a big play.

As far as the "BS" play you described from a few years back; we'll have to agree to disagree.

I agree with Riepo, a spike in my opinion is when a player forcefully throws the ball at the ground on purpose. I don't think what Stegman did after his catch is anything close to a spike and I don't think Spradlins a few years back was either, but like you said, we'll just have to disagree on that one. lol

[Burgballer08]

What an awesome game i was listening to it online in my dorm room at school. I wish i could of been their i was nervouse as ever listening to it . It was a typical Wheelersburg Ironton game big first half by wheelersburg and then big second half by Ironton, and for wheerlersburg to come back just shows what kind of team they have im really excited for this team they r going to great things this year. Ironton will be very good as well they could of easily quite but they never backed down and gave wheelersburg a run for thier money. Great game!!!

[tl895]

ironton plays better they give up a meaningless td at the end of the game! not the back breaker it turned out to be!! loads of talent and p poor execution...

[Sawdust]

Why is it that every year, for the past, ohh 20 years, such a well coached team as Ironton averages two or three fumbles per game? This boggles my mind!!! I love the way they play but they always seem to cough up the ball !!! This irritates me to no end. I know Coach Lutz hammers the fundamentals into these kids so why is it that every year you see Ironton digging themselves into a hole with turnovers? I think he or someone on his staff needs to teach the kids the proper way to carry the ball. The coaches in NY did it with Barber a couple of years ago and you know what kind of teflon hands he had. It can be done. Congrats to the 'Burg on an outstanding win and continued success to both squads.

[2old]

I agree. No excuse for the fumbles.

[Burg_Grad_77]

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Wheelersburgs tough defense had something to do with the fumbles? The Pirates were swarming the ball carriers and laying some vicious licks on them. It wasn't like the ball carriers were just laying it on the ground for the Burg to pick up. Even the pros will lose the ball if they are hit hard enough.

[ItownBrowns]

My point was made in that each person has their own idea of what a spike is. It is a gray area rule. Nowhere that I know of does it say in the rule book that showing up an opposing player constitutes a spike. Technically, anytime a player throws the ball down and does not simple lay it down or more appropriatly hand it to an official it could be conceived as a spike. Look, I agree that I would not have called it either. I have though been to many high school games, especially playoff games where the officials may have a tendency to as they say "overofficiate". I am only trying to educate players on the fact that those types of things do get called and I would hate to see Ironton or Wheelersburg lose a game, more importantly a playoff game over such a call. The best way to eliminate such grey area calls is to just not do anything that resembles them.
As for the fumbles Ironton had, the first was because the Ironton receiver had trouble putting the ball away after he caught it and the Burg players did a good job of getting it out before he could hit the ground. The other two had nothing to do with contact, simply horrible ball handling. For whatever reason they were not taking the ball away well and just dropped the ball. No excuse really, especially among players who were starters last year.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

This was a true nail biter and both teams were outstanding. Those are the kind of games I like to see.

I was especially proud of the grass fairy who locked this game up for the Burg. Takes a soccer player to win a football game. Very proud of you Aaron.

----------------------- GRASS FAIRY, THAT JUST AIN'T RIGHT, LAUGHING MY LOWER UNIT OFF AGAIN.