WK 7 Eastern @ Federal Hocking

[classof86]

So you are saying that being up by 20 points with 3 minutes left and doing those things is really showing sportsmanship

[Steely Dan]

Well, first, there were over six minutes left. Actually, I believe there may have been about eight minutes left after the score. And you want to talk sportsmanship?

How about your player screaming over #33 when he was down on the field after a hard tackle, and he had to leave the game? Sure, that was pure sportsmanship. You want the number of your player who did it, PM me and I'll tell you who it was.

If there were hard hits on your receivers, they were all legal. Not one flag for unnecessary roughness. When your QB keeps throwing his passes high, and your receivers jump up for them, they are vunerable, and fair game. There was nothing dirty about FH's pass defense or hits.

Game wasn't over and Coach Green was playing to win. Your team didn't stop trying to score, as they scored 12 more points, now didn't they?

[lancerfan16]

Congrats on the win! THe Lancers played a great game!

[classof86]

There were not 8 minutes left in the game, 3 maybe 4, and the referees were terrible so im not even going to start talking about them...This may be the best game Ive seen Eastern play all year, Fed has a really nice team I just didnt like what happened at the end

[gh123]

Don't let the score fool you, this games outcome could have very well been different. There were two drives in which The Eagles were inside the 10 yard line and just couldnt finish their drives..

As for the onside kick and fake feild extra point, that was freaking ridiculous. They were up 25 points...so I as well have to go with the classless remark. No way Eastern scores 25 points in the final 4 minutes. I also heard some Fed Hock players telling Easterns number 2 "GET BACK IN THE HUDDLE" after he was clobbered jumping for a ball. Sure, maybe Eastern did it too...but this was after fed hock told one of their players to get up. This isn't how football should be played.

But Eastern showed something in the second half...something they havent had in awhile...I think theyre finally onto something

[Steely Dan]

If the outcome could have been different, why the whining? The refs did a pretty good job tonight. They missed a few calls both ways, but, overall, they were fair.

I really hate it when people start complaining about an officiating crew in football.

Now basketball, that is a different story...........LOL!!!!

Sorry Roy!

[Lancer_Fan]

I am positive that the plays you are griping about were botched plays. Coach Green was switching his players around all night and they were not playing the positions they normally play. The extra point attempt was a botched play..... A mistake that benefitted FH. The onside kick??? Not a good kick....! Kicking was a problem all night, 2 went out of bounds...one went maybe 15 yards... Blame whoever you want....that dog won't hunt... To say Federal Hocking has no class?? That puts YOU in the catagory of Saturday School...and we all know it has no class.

WAY TO GO LANCERS!!!!

[BigCanan]

You are wrong about them being botched plays. The extra point fake was called, as was the onside kick. Eastern coaches and Fed Hock coaches had heated words after the game about them. It was not sportsman like. The two point conversion.....not a great call, but whatever. Then the onside?.....dangerous call up that late in the game. That was cheap. Eastern was not in a position to win at that point. That is not something you do. The Federal Hocking coach that called it should be ashamed of himself, and it was not Albert Green. Remember these are just kids! As far as the trash talking goes...that happens at every game. Good hard hitting game, I didn't see any cheap shots, and there were botched calls, but only one really bad one. I'm not sure if the Jv's got much playing time as previously posted. Good hard rushing attack from Fed Hock. I think they will have there hands full next week against Trimble.

Congratulations to Ben B. on his strip of the ball and his 40 yard rumble to the endzone! Shows true heart and determination.

[classof86]

The touchdown run by Buckley might be my favorite play of the year, at first I had no idea what was going on and then there comes Ben out of the pack with the ball and a full head of steam, first career touchdown I think

[Lancer_Fan]

Botched or not... and I am not convinced they weren't....you said it, these are just kids...on BOTH sides of the ball. I am so sick of the trash talk about Federal Hocking! If they have a bad year...they get laughed at...they have a good year and they are without class and its just a fluke. JEEZ! Just proves you can't please everyone so why the heck even try??? GO LANCERS!! GREAT GAME!!! GREAT WIN!!!

[Eagle82]

#79 for Eastern gets a strip of the football and runs for a touchdown, a lineman's dream.

[g w mclintock]

You are wrong about them being botched plays. The extra point fake was called, as was the onside kick. Eastern coaches and Fed Hock coaches had heated words after the game about them. It was not sportsman like. The two point conversion.....not a great call, but whatever. Then the onside?.....dangerous call up that late in the game. That was cheap. Eastern was not in a position to win at that point. That is not something you do. The Federal Hocking coach that called it should be ashamed of himself, and it was not Albert Green. Remember these are just kids! As far as the trash talking goes...that happens at every game. Good hard hitting game, I didn't see any cheap shots, and there were botched calls, but only one really bad one. I'm not sure if the Jv's got much playing time as previously posted. Good hard rushing attack from Fed Hock. I think they will have there hands full next week against Trimble.

Congratulations to Ben B. on his strip of the ball and his 40 yard rumble to the endzone! Shows true heart and determination.

I'll be honest, I've been thinking about these two plays since last night. This is pure conjecture so feel free to correct me but here is what I think happened.

1. The two point conversion. I think FH missed the two previous PAT kicks and had little confidence in their two kickers and
A) Needed to work on 2 pt conversions in case extra point kicks become an issue in the future or;
B) just plain wanted to get something positive out of the play.

2. The onside kick. It is not often you get to work on something of little consequence with your special teams in an actual game situation. I think whoever made the call for the kicking team wanted to work on the onside kick in case it is needed in the future. I would bet that whoever made that call wished they had not made it but it cannot be undone.

I also think that anybody that knows Al Green, knows he would never do anything to embarass the kids on either team. He is maybe the classiest coach I know when it comes to sportmanship.

I may be right or wrong, you can disagree at will. Just my opinion.

[Steely Dan]

GW, I honestly believe that you are right on all counts.

Conspiracy theorists, suchs as BigCanan, can stir the pot as much as they want to, but I believe you are spot on with your assessment of the situaton. The two point conversion was a great call, you need to be ready to pull that trigger, when the opportunity presents itself. Do it, and don't be ashamed that you have done it.

Now, as for the onside kick, I really take exception to the United States of the Offended (aka classof86) getting all pissed off about that call. Trimble pulled the onside kick off against you when they were ahead by 30+ the week before, and made repeated calls to score on you when they were way ahead. That is Phil Faires football, and everybody knows it, and opposing teams do not get offended when they get abused. So, not sure how much ground you folks have to complain about.

[Shazbot]

I can't sit here without saying to you Steely Dan that you don't get to decide when someone else is offended nor do you get to set the standard. The Trimble game had no bearing on this game but since you want to open that can of worms, the onside kicks were in the FIRST half of the Trimble game, not with 7 minutes remaining in the fourth quarter and a 27 point lead.
I don't care if you post a reply or not. The bucks just won and I'm moving into next week.

[BigCanan]

Shazbot is right...the Trimble kick was in the first half...totally different.

Like i said...the two point conversion wasn't a huge deal...it put them up 21...but I see no reason to call the onside kick. Kick the ball deep and play defense...then when your O gets the ball back, run the ball like you had been doing all night (with great success i might add) and run the clock out. Eastern got very little in kick return yards, and I think their average starting position was the 30. That's the smart thing to do.

There is no conspiracy theory, and I'm not stiring any pot, I'm stating fact.

The two plays were called the way they happened without any doubt.
If you don't think so, ask the coaches.

Once again, good physical game by both teams, proud of the way Eastern didn't quit, which is something they might have done last year being down 28-0 .

[?whoknows?]

well fellas, heres the deal. the onside kick was promised to the kicker before the game and eastern recovered it anyway so no big deal. and for the two point conversion, two words, BAD SNAP. the holder got up and hit a man for two. happens all the time. as for the hits, im not sure but they looked good to me.

[BigCanan]

Why would you promise a kid before the game to let him kick an onside kick? That's ridiculus! Unless you planned to kick the opening kick onside. And if that's the case, you look to the player and say: "Sorry son, but kicking an onside kick late in the fourth quarter up three scores is not very sportsman like. We wouldn't want anyone to do that to us. I'm sorry I broke my promise, but it's the right thing to do. We'll try to get that kick in for you next week." That way not only is the coach coaching, but is teaching the young men to be good young men. Once again not that it was a big deal, but the two point play was called...there was no bad snap, and no player yelled "fire" to signal that it was a bad snap.

Someday when the Lancers get blown out by Eastern, the coaches will have to explain to their players: "they are trying to embarass us because I did the same to them once." Maybe then sportsmanship will be taught. I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying it will happen.

Good luck to the young men at Federal Hocking the rest of the season!

GO EAGLES!

[dilligaf]

Fed hock is above that kind of stuff just ask there fans