Oak Hill '09

[ocho stinko]

theassassin,

I agree 100%.

[pigskinguru]

Did any of you watch Oak Hill last year? I did. Jesse is a very nice QB. That's not the problem. Against teams who were good or decent at best, he was running for his life when they tried to pass! Why should you you pass more when you can't protect him?

Do you really think Oak Hill will have people beating down their doors to apply if Phillips is let go. They didn't last time the job was open. Doesn't seem like Jackson is having much success finding a coach right now.

Jesse leaving makes no sense. You are telling me that he is going to leave Coach Persin in basketball. That is laughable!

[Buckeye-4-Life]

There is no way the Sloan kid will transfer. His dad is a Oak Hill guy, he helps Norm in basketball, and they have several kids coming back in football. They should be picked to win the SOC I next season.

[Keyser_sozeThrice]

4thekids....Good post.

[jacksonoaks]

ALL the Oak hill people want Jimmy Slone in there coaching that team. I have heard this statment a million times, he took those boys 9-0 or something like that when they were in the 8th grade.

They need to realize they have a hell of a good coaching staff that has turned the program around. I'm sure they could have took that team 9-0 also.

[boilermaker]

I have no dog in this fight, I posted what I heard to see if anyone had been told the same. I always root for the Oaks , unless they play my Rockets. I do agree with pigskinguru,if you cant protect the Qb you better be able to run it. I didnt see the Oaks last year,I was going to go to the Chesapeke game but I really thought the Oaks would beat them bad.Just from what I saw of the Panthers in a scrimmage with Wellston.
Thats why they play the game I guess.

Good Luck to the Oaks in 2009.

[hardhitter ll]

ALL the Oak hill people want Jimmy Slone in there coaching that team. I have heard this statment a million times, he took those boys 9-0 or something like that when they were in the 8th grade.

They need to realize they have a hell of a good coaching staff that has turned the program around. I'm sure they could have took that team 9-0 also.

If they were 9-0 in 8th grade then someone should notify the OHSAA, since 8th grade teams are only allowed to play 7 games.

[falconater]

KA is dead on here. installing a spread in a d5 school in one year operating it is a recipe for bad things not good things.

[LetItRide]

They might have been a great staff at Jackson, but they have not impressed me one bit. How many times can a staff take delay of game calls and stop drives because they can't decide what play to call. Seems simple to me that you prepare yourself for situational football. The next play should be ready to be called as soon as you get the down and distance. At least that is how it worked when I played. They actually called a timeout and discussed the play only to run a whole other group on the field after the clock had started. They are not prepared or they have communication issues. It not all about what offense they run. There are good things about that offense. But running the rocket sweep 15 times for 10 yards is not good.

Also, don't you have to have the athletes to run a 4/4 defense? We are not jackson and never will be. I don't think he had the same group of players on the field on defense the whole year. Why would you take Weston Hale out of the game on defense? Weston sat too much late in the year. He is arguably our best tackler. No Phillips moves Weston to safety against East, where he had not played all year, and Weston ends up missing his assignment on the first play and East takes it to the house. Then later Weston gets beat over the top for the next touchdown. You put kids in the best position to make plays, that was not the best place for Weston. I blame that on the coaches. You can not tell me that East team was better than Oak Hill.

That being said, I would like to see some improvement with the game prep from the coaches. Or Phillips should get another offensive coordinator who can call a good game. Just seems to me they are not working well together. It better get better this year, or we will not even be having this conversation next year.

[spiderman07]

Oak Hill has a very athletic group. It is just too bad the coaching staff wanted to win their way and not the way it could have been done. When you have wing T type players, run the wing T. Oak Hill didnt. But that is phillips way of offense so he will not go away from that. I know that when you have horses, you should ride them.

[madpolecat]

Unreal... just un-frakking-real.

I wonder how many of the people here and out in the community of Oak Hill looking to string Phillips up were also part of the group that ran Lewis and his staff out several years ago.

If sources serve me correctly, Lewis was more likely to throw the ball on offense than the current staff.

How ironic.

[LetItRide]

I wasn't living around here during the Lewis years, but discipline was his issue. Lewis would be a good offensive coordinator, Lord knows we need one.

[battlecats]

From what I have seen of Oak Hill is that they do have some good skill players but the O-Line couldnt handle anyone upfront that was quick such as Minford and East. He had no time to throw the ball alot of times and was taking some good shots against East and Im sure Minford as well. Unless they improve the Line play it will be pretty much the same, around 7-3, which is a good record but Im sure they want better. And East will be just as quick up front this year as they have in the past, they would have to be the favorites for the title again IMO.

[Da Bears]

Wow . . . Letitride is must be Vince Lombardi come back to life. He's wasn't at Oak Hill during the Lewis years but now he is an expert. How about telling us your line of work Letitride. You seem to know so much about football. Just how many years have you coached. Pee Wee doesn't count now . . . this is high school football.

As for the "boilermaker", you were on here over a year ago telling people the Dupree boy was going to Jackson . . . WRONG, and you are wrong again. If you want to spread something around Boilermaker, I was told at Dakota's in Jackson before Christmas, that Jaylin Prater was leaving Wellston at the end of the year. You know so much "boiler" maybe you should spend time and take care of things in Wellston. Your basketball coach is suspended for the year and your football team is 4-16 the past two years. Hey, I can fix it for you . . . just schedule 10 Christian schools like your basketball team does and you will get it turned around.

I do not know his stats for sure, but I do know that Jesse Slone has thrown for over 3000
yards and he has two more years to go. He will not be leaving Oak Hill. Guarantee! As for the Oaks team . . . they were something like 4 and 26 the three years before Phillips was hired . . . they have inproved to 7-3 in just three years and have some good players coming back. Seems to me things are going in the right direction. Sounds more like we have a parent or two that is unhappy their "little boy" isn't playing or not playing the postion they think he should be playing.

Ok Letitride, your turn, tell all of us your qualifications as a coach.

[boilermaker]

Da'bears, True I remember the rumors of the Dupree boy well they ended up being rumors anyways. Again I heard from some in the Slone family that he was considering transfering so I put it on here to see if any in Oak Hill had been told the same. All True !
As for Jalen Prater , he resides in the USA if he decides to transfer that is his decision .
Now if you want to discuss trandfers we can jump to the Girls Basketball forum and have at it. Again those kids reside in America land of the free and made a decsion.
Now, I dont have a basketball coach .In fact I havnt been to a basketball game since my daughter was a senior cheerleader for them in 2004. Its just not my favorite sport.
Yes Wellston has had a couple of bad years in football , but I never gave up on them and will always continue to support the Rocket football program ,Win Or Lose .

[jacksonoaks]

no he moved Weston to put Josh Perkins in, which was the best tackler on the team

They might have been a great staff at Jackson, but they have not impressed me one bit. How many times can a staff take delay of game calls and stop drives because they can't decide what play to call. Seems simple to me that you prepare yourself for situational football. The next play should be ready to be called as soon as you get the down and distance. At least that is how it worked when I played. They actually called a timeout and discussed the play only to run a whole other group on the field after the clock had started. They are not prepared or they have communication issues. It not all about what offense they run. There are good things about that offense. But running the rocket sweep 15 times for 10 yards is not good.

Also, don't you have to have the athletes to run a 4/4 defense? We are not jackson and never will be. I don't think he had the same group of players on the field on defense the whole year. Why would you take Weston Hale out of the game on defense? Weston sat too much late in the year. He is arguably our best tackler. No Phillips moves Weston to safety against East, where he had not played all year, and Weston ends up missing his assignment on the first play and East takes it to the house. Then later Weston gets beat over the top for the next touchdown. You put kids in the best position to make plays, that was not the best place for Weston. I blame that on the coaches. You can not tell me that East team was better than Oak Hill.

That being said, I would like to see some improvement with the game prep from the coaches. Or Phillips should get another offensive coordinator who can call a good game. Just seems to me they are not working well together. It better get better this year, or we will not even be having this conversation next year.

[imjustbias]

It is definitely obvious that Coach Phillips DOES NOT have the support of the communityh of Oak Hill. If Sloan leaves, I laying money others will follow. I don't think the community will let that happen. As for Coach Philips record...yes, he did come in to a 0-10 and it looks like he turned the program around but Coach Lewis did not have the athletes that Coach Phillips has either. The only prob Coach Lewis had was some of the people felt he lacked in discipline and felt that he several coaches that needed eliminated. He at least had the knowledge of a good offense! Colleges don't even run what Phillips runs. And beside he doesn't know when to use his best athletes together. Manard, Fisher and both Hale boys should always be in the game together. That's how you score!!!!!!

Best of luck to the Oaks in 09. I know the community is hoping for NEW changes but we'll have to see what happens.

[madpolecat]

Colleges don't even run what Phillips runs

Invalid argument, there. Oak Hill isn't a college, and the players there aren't college players.

[LetItRide]

Colleges don't even run what Phillips runs

Invalid argument, there. Oak Hill isn't a college, and the players there aren't college players.

He was stating the fact that no one runs this offense anymore. At least, teams that win anyway.
Part of being a good coach is being able to make changes to your schemes to fit your talent. Clearly, Phillips has not figured that out yet or he is just too stubborn to change. Nevertheless, if he continues to be set in his ways, he will find his way out of Oak Hill and he will be wishing that he had made the changes that he needed to make. I am all for giving the man a shot, he just has to take advantage of the opportunity, that is if he gets another shot.

[sider]

What Oak Hill runs is just a system. I would imagine Phillips believes that his offense will give him the best opportunity to win, so he teaches it. And I'm still not sure why he receives little support he has seemed to turn the oaks around