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2012 Chillicothe

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I heard that Coach Hinton is going back to Amanda? Is there any truth to that?


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I do not understand :122248 :oops: :122249 Why does this keep coming up? If you people run Coach Hinton out of there you are the biggest morons in Southern, no I take that back, ALL OF OHIO HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: Chillicothe will never have a coach of this caliber ever again if he is run out of there without having a chance to build his program. What you people do not understand is that coaches of high quality talk. They attend the same camps, clinics, meetings. When word gets out how he is being treated, there is not a quality coach that will touch that job with a twenty thousand foot pole. The administration, the fans, and the community had better get behind this man if you ever dream of having a successful program now, or ever again. All these behind the scenes actions by a few bitter fools are going to ruin a program that has, for the most part, been bad for decades to come. The school district and the community have a rare opportunity to change their fortunes by allowing this man to create a culture of winning instead of the culture of whinning that has pervaded Chillicothe football for most of its existence. Listen folks, you are not the most talented group when you walk on the field. Eight of the CAVS ten oppenents put more talent on the field than did the CAVS. It takes a solid, consistent program to consistently beat teams that have the same or more talent than you do. Those coaches are few and far between, and right now Chillicothe has one. What do you want Chilly, "play my boy even though there are better players and keep losing just so I can see my boy play", " play my boy over others even though he made no off season commitment, does not follow rules, curses coaches out, does not work hard in practice, just so I can watch my boy play" and keep a losing mentality that has existed for most of the last century? Or do you want a winning program where the kids are looked up to by the younger generations for their ability to win consistently and show high moral character? The community allowed John Sines to achieve the latter back in the mid-80's early-90's. Why will the community not allow Coach Hinton to do this now? I have said it before and I will say it again, if Chillicothe does not allow Ron Hinton to rebuild the football program, you deserve, and are destined for another century of football misery.


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I will say this about coach Hinton - he has my respect. I am a football official and I was one of the officials present during a Chillicothe scrimmage before this past season started. It was my first time on the field with coach Hinton. I had heard about some of the antics that he has pulled in the past on the field and wondered how he would act on this day. Of course, it was just a scrimmage, so likely nothing was going to happen.

The teams divided up into linemen in one group and skilled players in another group. The skilled players ran a 7-on-7 passing scrimmage with the other team. The linemen ran drills against each other. The first thing that impressed me about coach Hinton is that he went with the linemen, and not the skilled players.

During the line drills, he was constantly coaching - as you would expect. He did yell at the players...quite emphatically at times. But he impressed me with something he *didn't* do - he never once uttered a curse word. He got after his players but he never cursed at them or belittled them. Every word out of his mouth was a teaching moment. That impressed me.

I hear a lot of cursing on the field nowadays - coaches routinely curse at their own players, and sometimes at us officials. Coaches will scream and yell, sometimes with good reason...but usually without accomplishing anything. They are just spewing their frustration. But on this day, coach Hinton used his words to teach his players. It was refreshing to see and hear a *real* coach do his thing!

I have no doubt that he will be successful wherever he chooses to coach. I'm not from Chillicothe, so I am not biased one way or the other about the Chillicothe program or its coaches. I am just reporting what I observed.


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i dont believe coach hinton will leave until he has finished his work i dont see him as the kind of guy to give just because he has had two bad years it wasnt his fault although some were quick to blame him his play calling and how can a team have a 24 point lead and lose it in the 4th quarter answer they had now experince losing seinors and some juniors to injuries and stupid mistakes in school that kept some from playing hanicaped the team i think the young cavs did the best they could and i believe next season will be a good one if and only if all the boys who can play football and have there grades up "you know who you are" ive seen you at the games yelling how the team stinks well play!!!!!! stop using the excuse "well they only play the kids who fathers and grandfathers give money if you can play come out and win your spot im so tired of hearing about how chilly is going to stink year in and year out it seems like alot of people dont want chilly to suceed and as for those money bags we could use a new field and home stands who knows how much lead and absetos we have inhailed over the years the stands are a mess ill be there next season as always win or lose to cheer them on why once a cavalier always a cavalier


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buckcraze wrote:I do not understand :122248 :oops: :122249 Why does this keep coming up? If you people run Coach Hinton out of there you are the biggest morons in Southern, no I take that back, ALL OF OHIO HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: Chillicothe will never have a coach of this caliber ever again if he is run out of there without having a chance to build his program. What you people do not understand is that coaches of high quality talk. They attend the same camps, clinics, meetings. When word gets out how he is being treated, there is not a quality coach that will touch that job with a twenty thousand foot pole. The administration, the fans, and the community had better get behind this man if you ever dream of having a successful program now, or ever again. All these behind the scenes actions by a few bitter fools are going to ruin a program that has, for the most part, been bad for decades to come. The school district and the community have a rare opportunity to change their fortunes by allowing this man to create a culture of winning instead of the culture of whinning that has pervaded Chillicothe football for most of its existence. Listen folks, you are not the most talented group when you walk on the field. Eight of the CAVS ten oppenents put more talent on the field than did the CAVS. It takes a solid, consistent program to consistently beat teams that have the same or more talent than you do. Those coaches are few and far between, and right now Chillicothe has one. What do you want Chilly, "play my boy even though there are better players and keep losing just so I can see my boy play", " play my boy over others even though he made no off season commitment, does not follow rules, curses coaches out, does not work hard in practice, just so I can watch my boy play" and keep a losing mentality that has existed for most of the last century? Or do you want a winning program where the kids are looked up to by the younger generations for their ability to win consistently and show high moral character? The community allowed John Sines to achieve the latter back in the mid-80's early-90's. Why will the community not allow Coach Hinton to do this now? I have said it before and I will say it again, if Chillicothe does not allow Ron Hinton to rebuild the football program, you deserve, and are destined for another century of football misery.
Who is trying to run him out of town? Parents? Boosters? The superintendent and boe members who brought him to town still, from what I have been told, support him 100%. As long as the administration backs him there is nothing to the rumors.


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letsgolf wrote:
buckcraze wrote:I do not understand :122248 :oops: :122249 Why does this keep coming up? If you people run Coach Hinton out of there you are the biggest morons in Southern, no I take that back, ALL OF OHIO HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: Chillicothe will never have a coach of this caliber ever again if he is run out of there without having a chance to build his program. What you people do not understand is that coaches of high quality talk. They attend the same camps, clinics, meetings. When word gets out how he is being treated, there is not a quality coach that will touch that job with a twenty thousand foot pole. The administration, the fans, and the community had better get behind this man if you ever dream of having a successful program now, or ever again. All these behind the scenes actions by a few bitter fools are going to ruin a program that has, for the most part, been bad for decades to come. The school district and the community have a rare opportunity to change their fortunes by allowing this man to create a culture of winning instead of the culture of whinning that has pervaded Chillicothe football for most of its existence. Listen folks, you are not the most talented group when you walk on the field. Eight of the CAVS ten oppenents put more talent on the field than did the CAVS. It takes a solid, consistent program to consistently beat teams that have the same or more talent than you do. Those coaches are few and far between, and right now Chillicothe has one. What do you want Chilly, "play my boy even though there are better players and keep losing just so I can see my boy play", " play my boy over others even though he made no off season commitment, does not follow rules, curses coaches out, does not work hard in practice, just so I can watch my boy play" and keep a losing mentality that has existed for most of the last century? Or do you want a winning program where the kids are looked up to by the younger generations for their ability to win consistently and show high moral character? The community allowed John Sines to achieve the latter back in the mid-80's early-90's. Why will the community not allow Coach Hinton to do this now? I have said it before and I will say it again, if Chillicothe does not allow Ron Hinton to rebuild the football program, you deserve, and are destined for another century of football misery.
Who is trying to run him out of town? Parents? Boosters? The superintendent and boe members who brought him to town still, from what I have been told, support him 100%. As long as the administration backs him there is nothing to the rumors.
Crybaby parents that have the "hero" AD's ear, and administration afraid to piss off "hero" AD. Not rumors, fact.


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buckcraze wrote:
letsgolf wrote:
buckcraze wrote:I do not understand :122248 :oops: :122249 Why does this keep coming up? If you people run Coach Hinton out of there you are the biggest morons in Southern, no I take that back, ALL OF OHIO HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: Chillicothe will never have a coach of this caliber ever again if he is run out of there without having a chance to build his program. What you people do not understand is that coaches of high quality talk. They attend the same camps, clinics, meetings. When word gets out how he is being treated, there is not a quality coach that will touch that job with a twenty thousand foot pole. The administration, the fans, and the community had better get behind this man if you ever dream of having a successful program now, or ever again. All these behind the scenes actions by a few bitter fools are going to ruin a program that has, for the most part, been bad for decades to come. The school district and the community have a rare opportunity to change their fortunes by allowing this man to create a culture of winning instead of the culture of whinning that has pervaded Chillicothe football for most of its existence. Listen folks, you are not the most talented group when you walk on the field. Eight of the CAVS ten oppenents put more talent on the field than did the CAVS. It takes a solid, consistent program to consistently beat teams that have the same or more talent than you do. Those coaches are few and far between, and right now Chillicothe has one. What do you want Chilly, "play my boy even though there are better players and keep losing just so I can see my boy play", " play my boy over others even though he made no off season commitment, does not follow rules, curses coaches out, does not work hard in practice, just so I can watch my boy play" and keep a losing mentality that has existed for most of the last century? Or do you want a winning program where the kids are looked up to by the younger generations for their ability to win consistently and show high moral character? The community allowed John Sines to achieve the latter back in the mid-80's early-90's. Why will the community not allow Coach Hinton to do this now? I have said it before and I will say it again, if Chillicothe does not allow Ron Hinton to rebuild the football program, you deserve, and are destined for another century of football misery.
Who is trying to run him out of town? Parents? Boosters? The superintendent and boe members who brought him to town still, from what I have been told, support him 100%. As long as the administration backs him there is nothing to the rumors.
Crybaby parents that have the "hero" AD's ear, and administration afraid to piss off "hero" AD. Not rumors, fact.
Had the chance to run into a boe member who thought this was quite funny. Sounds like Hinton has their full support and if you know them you would know they could care less what a few "crybaby parents" have to say.


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Then the Board better let the "hero" know his place because that is where the friction is coming from that may cause Coach Hinton not to return as coach.


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GoBengals wrote:I will say this about coach Hinton - he has my respect. I am a football official and I was one of the officials present during a Chillicothe scrimmage before this past season started. It was my first time on the field with coach Hinton. I had heard about some of the antics that he has pulled in the past on the field and wondered how he would act on this day. Of course, it was just a scrimmage, so likely nothing was going to happen.

The teams divided up into linemen in one group and skilled players in another group. The skilled players ran a 7-on-7 passing scrimmage with the other team. The linemen ran drills against each other. The first thing that impressed me about coach Hinton is that he went with the linemen, and not the skilled players.

During the line drills, he was constantly coaching - as you would expect. He did yell at the players...quite emphatically at times. But he impressed me with something he *didn't* do - he never once uttered a curse word. He got after his players but he never cursed at them or belittled them. Every word out of his mouth was a teaching moment. That impressed me.

I hear a lot of cursing on the field nowadays - coaches routinely curse at their own players, and sometimes at us officials. Coaches will scream and yell, sometimes with good reason...but usually without accomplishing anything. They are just spewing their frustration. But on this day, coach Hinton used his words to teach his players. It was refreshing to see and hear a *real* coach do his thing!

I have no doubt that he will be successful wherever he chooses to coach. I'm not from Chillicothe, so I am not biased one way or the other about the Chillicothe program or its coaches. I am just reporting what I observed.
I will say this; even when we beat them my senior year, AC ALWAYS had solid offensive and defensive lines. Hinton knows that you start winning games by winning up front.


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Ron Hinton isn't all he's advertised to be. His unsportsmanlike conduct at the State Finals got the school put on probation for a year by the OHSAA. He also had problems with the Administration and Accounting at Amanda.

I don't think Amanda players are missing him at all.

http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/ar ... traditions


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AceRacer wrote:Ron Hinton isn't all he's advertised to be. His unsportsmanlike conduct at the State Finals got the school put on probation for a year by the OHSAA. He also had problems with the Administration and Accounting at Amanda.

I don't think Amanda players are missing him at all.

http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/ar ... traditions
I do not know, but this kind of sounds like sour grapes to me. I read the article you listed and it strikes me funny to know the tradition that the Aces program still refers to was built by Coach Hinton. Dale is a great guy, a wonderful mentor to the kids, and an excellent coach, but there is no Amanda football tradition without Ron Hinton and Jeff Arndt. If Chillicothe allows him to, Coach Hinton will build a similar type of football tradition for the CAVS. By the way, this is a Chillicothe Cavalier thread, not an Amanda thread.


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I believe the key word to that article was CONTINUES cause without Hinton there wouldnt be anything to CONTINUE. Chilli fans players parents etc need to stand behind this guy he is a proven winner. It will take time to build this program up and if you all can be patient you will reap the benefits.


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crazymidgets wrote:I believe the key word to that article was CONTINUES cause without Hinton there wouldnt be anything to CONTINUE. Chilli fans players parents etc need to stand behind this guy he is a proven winner. It will take time to build this program up and if you all can be patient you will reap the benefits.
Well put!


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It sounds like over the last couple of year Chillicothe has the talent coming up for Coach Hinton to work with. The only problem I see is his old school was known for football and Chillicothe isn't. So if the younger guys can stay together Chillicothe will do well.


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The biggest key will be for the younger grades (pee-wee, middle school) to develop. AC always had a solid program, starting from the ground up. Give the man time.


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chillicothe has been loaded in the younger grades for 30 straight years


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wrestlefan1 wrote:chillicothe has been loaded in the younger grades for 30 straight years
True, somewhere along the line between 6-9 grade some of the kids find other things to do.


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The only problem is a few loud mouth parents with kids that have no talent or the ability to shut up and learn. Coach Hinton and Coach Arndt are two of the smartest coaches around. There is no team in the area with the experience and know how to put together a winning program. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. He will teach your kids to win and play hard. This is a man's sport and the strong survive. Chillicothe parents who kids don't want to listen and hit hard come up with smoke and mirrors to try and make them look bad. Those parents need to put their kids in another program. Perhaps playing video games till their heads fall off. Because they couldn't handle running in soccer or any other sport that takes skill.

I'm not a coach or a relative of the these men. I just respect great coaching when I see it.

:mrgreen:


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AceRacer wrote:Ron Hinton isn't all he's advertised to be. His unsportsmanlike conduct at the State Finals got the school put on probation for a year by the OHSAA. He also had problems with the Administration and Accounting at Amanda.

I don't think Amanda players are missing him at all.

http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/ar ... traditions

I dont remember all the particulars about that but i know it was one of the worst calls or non calls in the history of sports . Like i said i dont remember all the particulars but i was outraged and im not even from Amanda . I was watching it on tv . What a travisty after working so hard to get there .


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charliehustle wrote:
AceRacer wrote:Ron Hinton isn't all he's advertised to be. His unsportsmanlike conduct at the State Finals got the school put on probation for a year by the OHSAA. He also had problems with the Administration and Accounting at Amanda.

I don't think Amanda players are missing him at all.

http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/ar ... traditions

I dont remember all the particulars about that but i know it was one of the worst calls or non calls in the history of sports . Like i said i dont remember all the particulars but i was outraged and im not even from Amanda . I was watching it on tv . What a travisty after working so hard to get there .
Should have been Amanda's that year--I also watched it


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