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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
If you judge this Burg team on how they played against Ironton in week 1, you'll be in for a rude awakening. That first half was probably some of the worst football I've ever seen a Burg team play on both offense and defense.
I would venture to guess that if they played ironton again it would be a better game. Not saying that Burg would win, but would be a more entertaining game. Burg was all out of rhythm in that first half. They came out and showed some life in the 2nd half, but by the time they figured it out, it was to late.
I would venture to guess that if they played ironton again it would be a better game. Not saying that Burg would win, but would be a more entertaining game. Burg was all out of rhythm in that first half. They came out and showed some life in the 2nd half, but by the time they figured it out, it was to late.
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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
yabbadabbadoo wrote:If you judge this Burg team on how they played against Ironton in week 1, you'll be in for a rude awakening. That first half was probably some of the worst football I've ever seen a Burg team play on both offense and defense.
I would venture to guess that if they played ironton again it would be a better game. Not saying that Burg would win, but would be a more entertaining game. Burg was all out of rhythm in that first half. They came out and showed some life in the 2nd half, but by the time they figured it out, it was to late.
So I guess they are immune now to playing a poor quarter, or half, or entire game? 17 and 18 year old kids.....sometimes you dont know what to expect. I can tell you that watching Minford vs Oak Hill, anything can happen.
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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
yabbadabbadoo wrote:If you judge this Burg team on how they played against Ironton in week 1, you'll be in for a rude awakening. That first half was probably some of the worst football I've ever seen a Burg team play on both offense and defense.
I would venture to guess that if they played ironton again it would be a better game. Not saying that Burg would win, but would be a more entertaining game. Burg was all out of rhythm in that first half. They came out and showed some life in the 2nd half, but by the time they figured it out, it was to late.
This sounds like the same thing that Ironton said last year. I think that they should trade, Ironton and West Portsmouth, so they can play the last game of the year. Then there will be No excuses on who is the better team. The Burg, or Ironton, year in and year out, are the two best teams in the area. And no matter who wins, the other team, says they lost because, it was the first game of the season.
Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
4th n Goal wrote:The most improved part of the offense this year is the Burg's O-Line. They are playing very solid and making plays consistently. They did a nice job last year, but now they are mostly juniors and 1 senior and are playing very well together. They don't get the glory, but they are opening up the holes very nicely for the backs.
And thats why they are so good, 3 out of 5 started last year and I think one of them rotated in at guard with the Senior last year (I could be wrong)...when you return starters on the o-line you have successful teams, thats the difference in West this year (Sparky, Lester, and Weber all had 2 or 3 years of starting or significant playing time)...and Minford as well (Howard, Ostrowski, and Hockett all had 2 or 3 of years of starting or signicant playing time)...experienced O-lines wins games and championships, which is why Wheelersburg has been tough to beat this year....
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I'm not making excuses for the Burg losing to Ironton, just merely stating that if that is the only game someone had seen the Burg play then they will be watching a totally different team.
Lot of players are being utilized now that wasn't really used in the Ironton game on both sides of the ball.
Lot of players are being utilized now that wasn't really used in the Ironton game on both sides of the ball.
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yabbadabbadoo wrote:I'm not making excuses for the Burg losing to Ironton, just merely stating that if that is the only game someone had seen the Burg play then they will be watching a totally different team.
Lot of players are being utilized now that wasn't really used in the Ironton game on both sides of the ball.
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One adjustment I did see Burg make vs Ironton was replacing most of the defensive line and benching a couple kids that were getting blown off the ball. The replacements were smaller and much quicker and they started getting after Ironton a little late in the 3rd and 4th quarters. But by that time Ironton's O line had been on the field just about the entire game so they were getting tired too.
Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
sider wrote:4th n Goal wrote:The most improved part of the offense this year is the Burg's O-Line. They are playing very solid and making plays consistently. They did a nice job last year, but now they are mostly juniors and 1 senior and are playing very well together. They don't get the glory, but they are opening up the holes very nicely for the backs.
And thats why they are so good, 3 out of 5 started last year and I think one of them rotated in at guard with the Senior last year (I could be wrong)...when you return starters on the o-line you have successful teams, thats the difference in West this year (Sparky, Lester, and Weber all had 2 or 3 years of starting or significant playing time)...and Minford as well (Howard, Ostrowski, and Hockett all had 2 or 3 of years of starting or signicant playing time)...experienced O-lines wins games and championships, which is why Wheelersburg has been tough to beat this year....
The minford line is almost exactly the same as last year, they lost howard as a full time starter and thats it I believe. I know hockett only had certain "big" packages he came in on and I dont think Ostrowski played much on Oline either.
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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
yabbadabbadoo wrote:I'm not making excuses for the Burg losing to Ironton, just merely stating that if that is the only game someone had seen the Burg play then they will be watching a totally different team.
Lot of players are being utilized now that wasn't really used in the Ironton game on both sides of the ball.
And that is the same thing that Ironton has said, the last two years. All I am saying, is that you both are better off playing the first week of the season. Through the years both teams are better at week ten, than they are at week one.
But lets not get off of the game we are talking about. I hope that the loss last week was the best thing for us. Hopefully the Falcons will wake up and play some football Friday night. With the speed and experience,Wheelersburg has in the backfield, we can't make any mistakes. We have to stay on our toes, for four qrarters. We can't trade big plays with them, they will beat us to death, with the speed they have.
Go Falcons!!
Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
mikenmike wrote:sider wrote:4th n Goal wrote:The most improved part of the offense this year is the Burg's O-Line. They are playing very solid and making plays consistently. They did a nice job last year, but now they are mostly juniors and 1 senior and are playing very well together. They don't get the glory, but they are opening up the holes very nicely for the backs.
And thats why they are so good, 3 out of 5 started last year and I think one of them rotated in at guard with the Senior last year (I could be wrong)...when you return starters on the o-line you have successful teams, thats the difference in West this year (Sparky, Lester, and Weber all had 2 or 3 years of starting or significant playing time)...and Minford as well (Howard, Ostrowski, and Hockett all had 2 or 3 of years of starting or signicant playing time)...experienced O-lines wins games and championships, which is why Wheelersburg has been tough to beat this year....
The minford line is almost exactly the same as last year, they lost howard as a full time starter and thats it I believe. I know hockett only had certain "big" packages he came in on and I dont think Ostrowski played much on Oline either.
I watched a bunch of film on minford last year, and every game I saw it was either Hockett at center and Howard and Ostrowski at guard (that was the way it was against West last year) or Hockett at tackle, and Howard at center, and Ostrowski at guard...I could be wrong though thats just what I saw
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And thats why they are so good, 3 out of 5 started last year and I think one of them rotated in at guard with the Senior last year (I could be wrong)...when you return starters on the o-line you have successful teams, thats the difference in West this year (Sparky, Lester, and Weber all had 2 or 3 years of starting or significant playing time)...and Minford as well (Howard, Ostrowski, and Hockett all had 2 or 3 of years of starting or signicant playing time)...experienced O-lines wins games and championships, which is why Wheelersburg has been tough to beat this year....[/quote]
The minford line is almost exactly the same as last year, they lost howard as a full time starter and thats it I believe. I know hockett only had certain "big" packages he came in on and I dont think Ostrowski played much on Oline either.[/quote]
I watched a bunch of film on minford last year, and every game I saw it was either Hockett at center and Howard and Ostrowski at guard (that was the way it was against West last year) or Hockett at tackle, and Howard at center, and Ostrowski at guard...I could be wrong though thats just what I saw[/quote]
Hockett never played center and it was a very rare occasion where Ostrowski played on the O line. Hockett only played 50-75% if that of the offensive plays.
The minford line is almost exactly the same as last year, they lost howard as a full time starter and thats it I believe. I know hockett only had certain "big" packages he came in on and I dont think Ostrowski played much on Oline either.[/quote]
I watched a bunch of film on minford last year, and every game I saw it was either Hockett at center and Howard and Ostrowski at guard (that was the way it was against West last year) or Hockett at tackle, and Howard at center, and Ostrowski at guard...I could be wrong though thats just what I saw[/quote]
Hockett never played center and it was a very rare occasion where Ostrowski played on the O line. Hockett only played 50-75% if that of the offensive plays.
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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
falcon_2010 wrote:YEA MINFORD HAS THIS ONE IN THE BAG BECUZ BURG DONT HAVE THE HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE AND MINFORD CANT GET BEAT BY THE REFFS THIS YEAR!!!!!!
Wow, that Minford education you're getting is really paying off. lol
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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
I hate when people talk about the Refs make a game when you really get outplayed. The refs will have nothing to do with the Burg beating the Falcons.
Come on on
Come on on
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PirateFan_2010 wrote:and i would pick shank over any other player around here... he is a machine, his football IQ is above anyone elses, he's a winner, and has a nose for the end zone...
i wouldn't put him at QB though, look at the success of this team with lang at qb compared to last year with shank there... shank's hands are to little, and he's obviously a natural rb... and lang is a perfect fit at qb... did hear though that woodward is going to swap them at rb and qb based on how tired they are during the game...
You're joking, right? I'm not taking anything from Lang because he is a hell of an athlete and a good QB, but Burg was 5-0 at this time last year with Shank at the helm.
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Burg_Grad_77 wrote:PirateFan_2010 wrote:and i would pick shank over any other player around here... he is a machine, his football IQ is above anyone elses, he's a winner, and has a nose for the end zone...
i wouldn't put him at QB though, look at the success of this team with lang at qb compared to last year with shank there... shank's hands are to little, and he's obviously a natural rb... and lang is a perfect fit at qb... did hear though that woodward is going to swap them at rb and qb based on how tired they are during the game...
You're joking, right? I'm not taking anything from Lang because he is a hell of an athlete and a good QB, but Burg was 5-0 at this time last year with Shank at the helm.
I totally agree! Burg is a better team with shank at QB!!! Lang doesnt always make the right decision and doesnt seem to have the QB arm, not saying shank's is any better, but he does a better job at knowing when to throw and when to tuck it.
Besides why wouldnt you continue to give him more experience when he'll be the #1 next year?
Lang wont be there!
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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
Burg doesn't need to change anything. They are fine the way they are. I just wonder who is going to stop these guys from making a serious run through the playoffs??? I would love to see Burg vs. Ironton again. It would be different IMHO.
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I never said Burg was better with Shank at QB. I was just pointing out that they were 5-0 at this time last year with him at QB.
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Neutron Man wrote:Burg_Grad_77 wrote:PirateFan_2010 wrote:and i would pick shank over any other player around here... he is a machine, his football IQ is above anyone elses, he's a winner, and has a nose for the end zone...
i wouldn't put him at QB though, look at the success of this team with lang at qb compared to last year with shank there... shank's hands are to little, and he's obviously a natural rb... and lang is a perfect fit at qb... did hear though that woodward is going to swap them at rb and qb based on how tired they are during the game...
You're joking, right? I'm not taking anything from Lang because he is a hell of an athlete and a good QB, but Burg was 5-0 at this time last year with Shank at the helm.
I totally agree! Burg is a better team with shank at QB!!! Lang doesnt always make the right decision and doesnt seem to have the QB arm, not saying shank's is any better, but he does a better job at knowing when to throw and when to tuck it.
Besides why wouldnt you continue to give him more experience when he'll be the #1 next year?Lang wont be there!
Look for Zaide Whitley or Alex Shears to be the QB next year. Schank will be in the backfield again.
I think I need to clear something up in that I'm not saying that Schank should be the QB for the Burg this year. I was merely stating that when someone said they would like to see a backfield of Pendleton, Slone and Schank. I sais in that setting he should be the QB with Pendleton and Slone in the Backfield. That would be a tough three headed monster to stop. After watching Schank since the Ironton game, there is no doubt in anyones minds that he should be the TB for the Burg along with Craigmiles. Man, what a 1-2 punch. Alot of speed right there between those two. Either one of those backs, everytime they touch are a threat to take it to the house.
Good luck Pirates this Friday. Hopefully the flu bug will not rear its ugly head on either team this week. Yeah, Burg does have sokme sickness but in the younger grades and THERE IS NO SWINE FLU VIRUS IN THE SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
hopefully they can all get better so they can play friday
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Re: WK6 (4-1) Wheelersburg @ (4-1) Minford SOC2
FalconFan wrote:Burg doesn't need to change anything. They are fine the way they are. I just wonder who is going to stop these guys from making a serious run through the playoffs??? I would love to see Burg vs. Ironton again. It would be different IMHO.
Who is gonna stop em'?
The same thing every playoff year. A team that can throw the ball and stop the run game.
Cause pass DEF is not that good, and pass OFF is even worse! I know that the pass game has been there some but running has been all they do. Yes it has been affective, but come playoffs, like always you WILL run into a team that can and will stop you on the ground and then thats where you are gonna wish you had worked on it more during the reg. season.
Yeah I don't care to say it. It seems everyone wants to say it but won't Lang is not Burg's best QB. He is very good, but not the best option. Why is it when I am in the stands, just about everyone I talk to wonders this also? And I don't sit in the same spot every time.
Burg will continue to win and make the playoffs, but come 2nd round, exit for the reason just stated.
I hope not. I hope I am proven wrong, but through 5 weeks now no great passing game has been implemented into the game plan.
Burg again wins this game with no problems.