OVC Championship: Coal Grove @ Chesapeake
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Welcome to SEOPs #40s mom. I definitely agree with you about the attitude problems having vanished from this year's team. Hopefully the Grove puts up a good showing come Saturday.
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And also, as I said earlier in the thread, this was a team loss. No single
individual was soley responsible for this. To say so would be foolish.
individual was soley responsible for this. To say so would be foolish.
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"Peake, I know the comments you are refering to and I will still stand by them. I've posted the conference records of those teams during those years. They speak for themselves."
Exactly, that is why I laugh when you try and make a point about your beloved Hornets. I still think your a knowledgeable poster but when your back is to the wall you are as big a homer as the rest of your fans on here. The difference between then and now, Chesapeake was beating teams from all over the county (Belpre, Minford, PW, Tolsia, Wayne, SV, etc). My junior year we played 4 playoff teams, only two short of this season, so whatever shortcoming the conference had, we went outside it and made up for it.
" But you also had the year in 03 that three different teams in the OVC made the playoffs and the year in 01 when SP won the title."
So what is your point?
"Peake would start 0-2 every year against Portsmouth who had some good years"
Let me stop you right there. Portsmouth my senior year was better then any team CG has played since I graduated. Portsmouth my senior year had 9 college players on the roster including Jo Jo Parker, Jeramiah Boldon, Jerald Cadogen, and Malone. They were fresh off a D3 state semi-final game the year before. They were very good up until the last year or two of the contract. They had like one down year during the entire contract.
"and Wayne who is almost always really good by WV standards."
Thank you for doing exactly what I thought you would. Down playing how good Wayne is. Wayne would be a consistant d5 playoff team in Ohio every year.
"They usually lost in the first round of the playoffs"
My junior year Wayne got beat in the state title game. My senior year they were beat in the second round after going 9-0 and being ranked #1. In 2006 they won the state championship. Last season they lost in the state chamionship game. Please if you are going to claim something be accurate. You are trying to paint a picture of a program in which you are very ignorant.
"The exception being the 02 year when they made the regional finals.'
So they lose in the first round majority of the time, yet they were in the regional finals in 02, state championship in 2000 and 2009, and state champs in 06. Just stop.
"The whole point is that it doesn't really matter who you schedule or how good they are."
Go tell that to Ironton.
'The problem I see with OVC teams is not with talent, but with the unwillingness to try to be competitive with area teams.'
You really think these teams are not trying to be competitive? Why would Chesapeake schd all of these teams if they didn't expect to compete? This is another example of a comment that is very weak and poor.
"They don't care about playoffs, they just want to win the OVC."
There is not a good enough program at this point in the OVC to look towards the playoffs every year. Until you see a CG of the 80's or a Chesapeake of the late 90's early 2000's, then the attitude should always be win your conference first. It was a very short time ago CG would have wished the could just win the conference. That was goal #1. We all want to be playoff teams, but in reality you probably are going to have to win your conference in order to get into the playoffs in a conference like the OVC (there are a few exceptions, CG this year, Chesapeake 2001). You are only strengthening my point. Your arrogance at CG has blinded you.
Exactly, that is why I laugh when you try and make a point about your beloved Hornets. I still think your a knowledgeable poster but when your back is to the wall you are as big a homer as the rest of your fans on here. The difference between then and now, Chesapeake was beating teams from all over the county (Belpre, Minford, PW, Tolsia, Wayne, SV, etc). My junior year we played 4 playoff teams, only two short of this season, so whatever shortcoming the conference had, we went outside it and made up for it.
" But you also had the year in 03 that three different teams in the OVC made the playoffs and the year in 01 when SP won the title."
So what is your point?
"Peake would start 0-2 every year against Portsmouth who had some good years"
Let me stop you right there. Portsmouth my senior year was better then any team CG has played since I graduated. Portsmouth my senior year had 9 college players on the roster including Jo Jo Parker, Jeramiah Boldon, Jerald Cadogen, and Malone. They were fresh off a D3 state semi-final game the year before. They were very good up until the last year or two of the contract. They had like one down year during the entire contract.
"and Wayne who is almost always really good by WV standards."
Thank you for doing exactly what I thought you would. Down playing how good Wayne is. Wayne would be a consistant d5 playoff team in Ohio every year.
"They usually lost in the first round of the playoffs"
My junior year Wayne got beat in the state title game. My senior year they were beat in the second round after going 9-0 and being ranked #1. In 2006 they won the state championship. Last season they lost in the state chamionship game. Please if you are going to claim something be accurate. You are trying to paint a picture of a program in which you are very ignorant.
"The exception being the 02 year when they made the regional finals.'
So they lose in the first round majority of the time, yet they were in the regional finals in 02, state championship in 2000 and 2009, and state champs in 06. Just stop.
"The whole point is that it doesn't really matter who you schedule or how good they are."
Go tell that to Ironton.
'The problem I see with OVC teams is not with talent, but with the unwillingness to try to be competitive with area teams.'
You really think these teams are not trying to be competitive? Why would Chesapeake schd all of these teams if they didn't expect to compete? This is another example of a comment that is very weak and poor.
"They don't care about playoffs, they just want to win the OVC."
There is not a good enough program at this point in the OVC to look towards the playoffs every year. Until you see a CG of the 80's or a Chesapeake of the late 90's early 2000's, then the attitude should always be win your conference first. It was a very short time ago CG would have wished the could just win the conference. That was goal #1. We all want to be playoff teams, but in reality you probably are going to have to win your conference in order to get into the playoffs in a conference like the OVC (there are a few exceptions, CG this year, Chesapeake 2001). You are only strengthening my point. Your arrogance at CG has blinded you.
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Peake, every comment you quoted about Wayne was directed at Chesapeake, not Wayne. Chesapeake usually lost in the first round except in 02 when they went to the regional finals. Was not trying to downplay Wayne at all. The only comments I made about Wayne were that they beat Chesapeake all those years and they were good by WV standards (meaning they were a good team state-wide in WV).
The OVC was bad most years and Chesapeake was good relatively speaking - very good some years. There hasn't been a more dominant team in the OVC since the 02 Peake team. As I showed you on another thread a while bad, during those years Chesapeake had the highest OVC winning percentage over 7 years than any team over any 7 year period in the history of the conference. Those are my main points. The conference has now gotten much worse, with South Point, Rock Hill, and River Valley having fallen on very hard times. I'm not falling back on any sort of Coal Grove traditionalism. I just get sick of the OVC as a whole continuing to wallow around in mediocrity while the rest of
the area passes it by. Again, no arrogance here. In a conference where the half the teams finish well under .500 it's only natural that winning the conference becomes less of a big deal because it means very little these days in terms of how good you are. What matters is how you fare against teams that are contenders. That's not arrogance, it's obvious. Valley lost out on a playoff trip this year because it had 4 OVC teams on the schedule. The were a very talented football team and could have contended in the playoffs at full strength, but now they're staying home. They didn't need to play an Ironton or Oak Hill in the non-conference slate. wins over Greenup County and Athens instead of SP
and RH would have put them in the playoffs.
Ironton isn't going to contend for the regional title this year because they got beat by JA, they'll make it because they have the talent and the best coach in the area. They win games against bigger schools with lesser football programs - they schedule smart and are rewarded for it.
The OVC was bad most years and Chesapeake was good relatively speaking - very good some years. There hasn't been a more dominant team in the OVC since the 02 Peake team. As I showed you on another thread a while bad, during those years Chesapeake had the highest OVC winning percentage over 7 years than any team over any 7 year period in the history of the conference. Those are my main points. The conference has now gotten much worse, with South Point, Rock Hill, and River Valley having fallen on very hard times. I'm not falling back on any sort of Coal Grove traditionalism. I just get sick of the OVC as a whole continuing to wallow around in mediocrity while the rest of
the area passes it by. Again, no arrogance here. In a conference where the half the teams finish well under .500 it's only natural that winning the conference becomes less of a big deal because it means very little these days in terms of how good you are. What matters is how you fare against teams that are contenders. That's not arrogance, it's obvious. Valley lost out on a playoff trip this year because it had 4 OVC teams on the schedule. The were a very talented football team and could have contended in the playoffs at full strength, but now they're staying home. They didn't need to play an Ironton or Oak Hill in the non-conference slate. wins over Greenup County and Athens instead of SP
and RH would have put them in the playoffs.
Ironton isn't going to contend for the regional title this year because they got beat by JA, they'll make it because they have the talent and the best coach in the area. They win games against bigger schools with lesser football programs - they schedule smart and are rewarded for it.
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I will agree with that.CG40mom wrote:He is not the tallest but, he is the biggest and has more heart than anyone on the team. And guess who took the loss personsally. Never shed a tear but wondered all night what he could have done differently to change the out come. Didn't blame the Ref's, the coaches. or his fellow team mates but blamed himself.
He has no control over when he plays or even if he plays, he does what the coaches ask him to do, and I mean WHATEVER they ask him to do. He played the whole 2nd half hurt but, never asked to come off the field, he wants to do whatever he has to do to WIN!
He will give everything he has Saturday at Oak Hill, I hope the rest of the team does the same. This is their chance for redemption, not just from Chesapeake but also from all the references to last year's CG team. Just as much talent on this year's team, I think more, and not half the attitude promblems. GO HORNETS!!!!!
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Bottom Line--Coal Grove is going to state playoffs, and Chesapeake is going to basketball practice.
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"Chesapeake usually lost in the first round except in 02 when they went to the regional finals."
1999 Chesapeake regional semi-finals against state champion Amanda Clearcreek. Who has won 3 playoff games in say the past 20 years out of the OVC...CHesapeake
"There hasn't been a more dominant team in the OVC since the 02 Peake team"
False....The 1999 and 2000 teams were far better teams imo then the 2002 team. That was an incredible year don't get me wrong, but 99 Chesapeake beats undefeated #3 in the state Ridgewood and turn around and get beat by #1/State Champion Amanda.
Wallow? You think that Chesapeake doesn't want to have the run of athletes they had in the past? You think fairland or any other OVC team doesn't want to be really good again? Poor choice of words.
Go back and look at Ironton's schd. Lesser programs? Really?
Chesapeake was going 8-2 and not making the playoffs because of playing teams like Green, so they stepped it up, I have respect for that.
1999 Chesapeake regional semi-finals against state champion Amanda Clearcreek. Who has won 3 playoff games in say the past 20 years out of the OVC...CHesapeake
"There hasn't been a more dominant team in the OVC since the 02 Peake team"
False....The 1999 and 2000 teams were far better teams imo then the 2002 team. That was an incredible year don't get me wrong, but 99 Chesapeake beats undefeated #3 in the state Ridgewood and turn around and get beat by #1/State Champion Amanda.
Wallow? You think that Chesapeake doesn't want to have the run of athletes they had in the past? You think fairland or any other OVC team doesn't want to be really good again? Poor choice of words.
Go back and look at Ironton's schd. Lesser programs? Really?
Chesapeake was going 8-2 and not making the playoffs because of playing teams like Green, so they stepped it up, I have respect for that.
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"Bottom Line--Coal Grove is going to state playoffs, and Chesapeake is going to basketball practice."
qute.
When you look at your board and it is missing an OVC title I think you will feel differently. I was part of a 7-3 team that lost the OVC title and went to the playoffs, I would have much rather had the conference title.
qute.
When you look at your board and it is missing an OVC title I think you will feel differently. I was part of a 7-3 team that lost the OVC title and went to the playoffs, I would have much rather had the conference title.
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Like I said, most years (5 out of 7?) Chesapeake lost in the first round. I said since 2002 there hasn't been a more dominant OVC team. That doesn't mean it was the best Peake team ever. That just means there hasn't been a better OVC team since then. The only one I can think of
that might have come close to being as good over the last 8 years might be the 05 Rock Hill team. The 06 South Point team was also stacked, but injuries killed them at the beginning of the year and ruined their playoff hopes.
Ironton owns every team on their schedule traditionally. Burg is the only team on Ironton's schedule
this year that has won nearly as consistently as Ironton has over the last 25 years or so. Ironton owns bigger schools like Jackson, Gallia Academy, and Ashland. Those are all nice point games most years, but those programs are not on the same level as Ironton as far as consistent success.
And yes, I too respect Chesapeake's schedule. Like I said, next year Peake could beat some of these teams. Coal Grove beat Valley two years in a row, but CG lost their whole backfield from last year and Valley returned pretty much everyone. No big deal. CG should be happy they were able to make this a playoff season by scheduling smart and beating everyone they were supposed to, with the exception of Chesapeake at the end. Of course the teams want to be good. But it seems like there's a different coach at fairland every two years so how can that help? Rock Hill has rarely ever fielded a really good team. Football is not a primary focus at SP. RV? A program that's been in shambles for years and
has no sign of life. So yes, the kids who play might want to compete. But no, the programs are not being built to do so. Very little encouragement from powers that be in most cases...
that might have come close to being as good over the last 8 years might be the 05 Rock Hill team. The 06 South Point team was also stacked, but injuries killed them at the beginning of the year and ruined their playoff hopes.
Ironton owns every team on their schedule traditionally. Burg is the only team on Ironton's schedule
this year that has won nearly as consistently as Ironton has over the last 25 years or so. Ironton owns bigger schools like Jackson, Gallia Academy, and Ashland. Those are all nice point games most years, but those programs are not on the same level as Ironton as far as consistent success.
And yes, I too respect Chesapeake's schedule. Like I said, next year Peake could beat some of these teams. Coal Grove beat Valley two years in a row, but CG lost their whole backfield from last year and Valley returned pretty much everyone. No big deal. CG should be happy they were able to make this a playoff season by scheduling smart and beating everyone they were supposed to, with the exception of Chesapeake at the end. Of course the teams want to be good. But it seems like there's a different coach at fairland every two years so how can that help? Rock Hill has rarely ever fielded a really good team. Football is not a primary focus at SP. RV? A program that's been in shambles for years and
has no sign of life. So yes, the kids who play might want to compete. But no, the programs are not being built to do so. Very little encouragement from powers that be in most cases...
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You can't tell me that schools the size of Rock Hill, Fairland, and South Point don't have athletes capable of being football stars who are just walking the halls and sitting in the bleachers on Friday afternoons during pep rallies.
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fuzzhead,I think those players sitting in the stands arent motivated to play,cause those programs havent been very good and dont wanna play for a losing program!!This is where the coaches need to go ask those Athletic Kids to play for them and make them a winning program!!When i was in school in the 80's the OVC was better IMO!I remember almost every game was a slobberknocker!!The emotions were higher when we went to Rock Hill,South Point,Fairlnad and the Peake!!Now this year it just didnt seem the same to me besides at Chesapeake!!I went to the Fairlnad game and their community had not even half of their stands filled!!I also wanna say that Chesapeake didnt look over 3/4ths full also!!I remember back in the 80's that if you didnt get to the OVC games early,that you were standing on the sidelines!!Coal Grove definitely seems to have the Most fan support as our Stands are usually full and we travel real well!!I can see how the kids at Rock Hill,South Point and River Valley,sont wanna play in unpacked stands with no community support and no winning program!!I really wished the OVC could get back to those days!!Id love to see Symmes Valley and Oak Hill come back into the OVC,but really it wouldnt help their winning programs.SV would be playing higher division teams and why take the chance of losing to Bigger Enrolled schools when your making the playoffs consistently already!!The Oaks might like it but hey they are already #1 in their region and that could be hurt if u have low loss teams like RH,RV,SP and Fairland on your schedule!!I dont know how to fix it,but I wished it would get fixed!
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lol. so let me guess, you're favorite way to end a sentence is with an exclamation point?RJ7171C71R wrote:fuzzhead,I think those players sitting in the stands arent motivated to play,cause those programs havent been very good and dont wanna play for a losing program!!This is where the coaches need to go ask those Athletic Kids to play for them and make them a winning program!!When i was in school in the 80's the OVC was better IMO!I remember almost every game was a slobberknocker!!The emotions were higher when we went to Rock Hill,South Point,Fairlnad and the Peake!!Now this year it just didnt seem the same to me besides at Chesapeake!!I went to the Fairlnad game and their community had not even half of their stands filled!!I also wanna say that Chesapeake didnt look over 3/4ths full also!!I remember back in the 80's that if you didnt get to the OVC games early,that you were standing on the sidelines!!Coal Grove definitely seems to have the Most fan support as our Stands are usually full and we travel real well!!I can see how the kids at Rock Hill,South Point and River Valley,sont wanna play in unpacked stands with no community support and no winning program!!I really wished the OVC could get back to those days!!Id love to see Symmes Valley and Oak Hill come back into the OVC,but really it wouldnt help their winning programs.SV would be playing higher division teams and why take the chance of losing to Bigger Enrolled schools when your making the playoffs consistently already!!The Oaks might like it but hey they are already #1 in their region and that could be hurt if u have low loss teams like RH,RV,SP and Fairland on your schedule!!I dont know how to fix it,but I wished it would get fixed!
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To state the main points of my case:
1) This was a down year at the top of the OVC. No one was able to compete with similarly sized area schools (Valley, West, Oak Hill, Burg, etc).
2) Granted, some of these teams were pretty good but most of the OVC has had a problem competing outside the conference for some time. This is getting to be a regular occurence.
3) This is sad because there is talent at these schools. The problem (as RJ pointed out) is the fact the programs are stagnant and their is not a winning atmosphere.
4) These teams are not scheduling powerhouses. They are scheduling mostly average to good teams and are satisfied with starting off a year 0-5 or 1-4 and getting blown off the field in most cases.
5) Doing so does not earn any of these teams any respect, it just exposes how weak of a conference the OVC is and the stagnation of the football programs.
1) This was a down year at the top of the OVC. No one was able to compete with similarly sized area schools (Valley, West, Oak Hill, Burg, etc).
2) Granted, some of these teams were pretty good but most of the OVC has had a problem competing outside the conference for some time. This is getting to be a regular occurence.
3) This is sad because there is talent at these schools. The problem (as RJ pointed out) is the fact the programs are stagnant and their is not a winning atmosphere.
4) These teams are not scheduling powerhouses. They are scheduling mostly average to good teams and are satisfied with starting off a year 0-5 or 1-4 and getting blown off the field in most cases.
5) Doing so does not earn any of these teams any respect, it just exposes how weak of a conference the OVC is and the stagnation of the football programs.
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Too much emphasis on points and playoffs. No pride in winning your conference. This starts with the coaches and AD's making up a schedule with 1st and 2nd level point accumulation in mind. Are we all turning into Ironton? I remember being OVC Champions reaaly meant something, today no so much. It's all about PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS.
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Mom, there is no pride in winning the conference because there is not a team in it that can consistently compete with similarly sized schools in this area. This year, besides CG every other team entered the conference slate at either 0-5 or 1-4. Where's the pride in beating a 1-4 or 0-5 team? CG had owned the OVC over the years. No other team has half as many titles. It should be expected, especially as bad as the conference has been recently. The question then becomes, "How do we stack up against other teams our size in this area?" The answer to that question is: Not well. There was a time when winning the OVC was really something to be proud of. That's just not the case anymore. It might be again one day. In the meantime, we're about to see if CG can put on a good showing against a regional title contender. I would consider a loss by 14 or less as a moral victory. I bleed red and black and a win would make my decade. There was a time when CG would beat teams like Wheelersburg or an Oak Hill team like we've seen recently. Hopefully we can get back to being a serious threat in this area. This might be the Grove's chance to prove they've turned the corner.
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No?So why do you ask?! LOL !?!I drain 3's wrote:lol. so let me guess, you're favorite way to end a sentence is with an exclamation point?RJ7171C71R wrote:fuzzhead,I think those players sitting in the stands arent motivated to play,cause those programs havent been very good and dont wanna play for a losing program!!This is where the coaches need to go ask those Athletic Kids to play for them and make them a winning program!!When i was in school in the 80's the OVC was better IMO!I remember almost every game was a slobberknocker!!The emotions were higher when we went to Rock Hill,South Point,Fairlnad and the Peake!!Now this year it just didnt seem the same to me besides at Chesapeake!!I went to the Fairlnad game and their community had not even half of their stands filled!!I also wanna say that Chesapeake didnt look over 3/4ths full also!!I remember back in the 80's that if you didnt get to the OVC games early,that you were standing on the sidelines!!Coal Grove definitely seems to have the Most fan support as our Stands are usually full and we travel real well!!I can see how the kids at Rock Hill,South Point and River Valley,sont wanna play in unpacked stands with no community support and no winning program!!I really wished the OVC could get back to those days!!Id love to see Symmes Valley and Oak Hill come back into the OVC,but really it wouldnt help their winning programs.SV would be playing higher division teams and why take the chance of losing to Bigger Enrolled schools when your making the playoffs consistently already!!The Oaks might like it but hey they are already #1 in their region and that could be hurt if u have low loss teams like RH,RV,SP and Fairland on your schedule!!I dont know how to fix it,but I wished it would get fixed!
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N2sport is talking about #22. He does not back up 40, he is the power running halfback. 40 is the fullback. If anything he backs up the faster #2. Just thought that all needed cleared up.fuzzhead wrote:Big back? #40 is their biggest back. He only got 9 carries for 33 yards. Sure, not having the backup hurt though, especially on defense.
IMO cg needs to put this game behind them and get focused on the game ahead. They have a real shot if they pull together and play.
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To state the main points of my case:
1) This was a down year at the top of the OVC. No one was able to compete with similarly sized area schools (Valley, West, Oak Hill, Burg, etc). I agree, but we are not talking Northwest, Green, etc. Of the examples you gave those are all playoff teams. How many years does the OVC regularly pump out more then 1 playoff team? The OVC has been pretty average despite useually one good to really good team per year. I think you may not want to use playoff teams of similar size as your example because that is probably not real accurate imo.
2) Granted, some of these teams were pretty good but most of the OVC has had a problem competing outside the conference for some time. This is getting to be a regular occurence. Wasn't it just two years ago that Chesapeake beat Oak Hill and Lucasville 3 years ago? I am just using Chesapeake as an example because I don't follow most progtrams outside the OVC.
3) This is sad because there is talent at these schools. The problem (as RJ pointed out) is the fact the programs are stagnant and their is not a winning atmosphere. There really is not an amazing amount of talent imo at these schools. YOu have to have good players to have a good team imo. Chesapeake was very very good for about a 10 year period and how many college players, all -district, and all-state level kids did they have, quite a few. Now the tides have turned and you are seeing CG with the better players and obviously you are winning. You think Chesapeake with the same coaching staff that won all of those games is not promoting a winning atmosphere?
4) These teams are not scheduling powerhouses. They are scheduling mostly average to good teams and are satisfied with starting off a year 0-5 or 1-4 and getting blown off the field in most cases. 4 out of 5 teams on Chesapeakes opening schd were playoff teams.
5) Doing so does not earn any of these teams any respect, it just exposes how weak of a conference the OVC is and the stagnation of the football programs.
1) This was a down year at the top of the OVC. No one was able to compete with similarly sized area schools (Valley, West, Oak Hill, Burg, etc). I agree, but we are not talking Northwest, Green, etc. Of the examples you gave those are all playoff teams. How many years does the OVC regularly pump out more then 1 playoff team? The OVC has been pretty average despite useually one good to really good team per year. I think you may not want to use playoff teams of similar size as your example because that is probably not real accurate imo.
2) Granted, some of these teams were pretty good but most of the OVC has had a problem competing outside the conference for some time. This is getting to be a regular occurence. Wasn't it just two years ago that Chesapeake beat Oak Hill and Lucasville 3 years ago? I am just using Chesapeake as an example because I don't follow most progtrams outside the OVC.
3) This is sad because there is talent at these schools. The problem (as RJ pointed out) is the fact the programs are stagnant and their is not a winning atmosphere. There really is not an amazing amount of talent imo at these schools. YOu have to have good players to have a good team imo. Chesapeake was very very good for about a 10 year period and how many college players, all -district, and all-state level kids did they have, quite a few. Now the tides have turned and you are seeing CG with the better players and obviously you are winning. You think Chesapeake with the same coaching staff that won all of those games is not promoting a winning atmosphere?
4) These teams are not scheduling powerhouses. They are scheduling mostly average to good teams and are satisfied with starting off a year 0-5 or 1-4 and getting blown off the field in most cases. 4 out of 5 teams on Chesapeakes opening schd were playoff teams.
5) Doing so does not earn any of these teams any respect, it just exposes how weak of a conference the OVC is and the stagnation of the football programs.
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1) The SOCII programs have gotten better and OVC programs have declined over the last decade. Minford is now a playoff team every year and Valley goes every now and then. Burg is always a force to be reckoned with. Oak Hill probably won't be nearly as good next year. They may not go back to being as bad as they were not too long ago, but they'll come back down to earth for sure. This isn't the only year the OVC has faired miserably against outside opposition. It's a pattern.
2) I think Chesapeake is a baskeball school with a really good football coach. You can tell by th number of kids on the teams that not nearly as many kids go out for football at SP or RH or Fairland compared to CG. Sure, talent runs in cycles but if all of your school's best athletes are on the field on Fridays, you'll at least compete with other teams.
2) I think Chesapeake is a baskeball school with a really good football coach. You can tell by th number of kids on the teams that not nearly as many kids go out for football at SP or RH or Fairland compared to CG. Sure, talent runs in cycles but if all of your school's best athletes are on the field on Fridays, you'll at least compete with other teams.
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only if someone gets real lucky.......CG40mom wrote:Too much emphasis on points and playoffs. No pride in winning your conference. This starts with the coaches and AD's making up a schedule with 1st and 2nd level point accumulation in mind. Are we all turning into Ironton? I remember being OVC Champions reaaly meant something, today no so much. It's all about PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS.