River Valley Coach Resigns -- for real?

[ole_Bobcat]

Well, the McDonald's at the edge of town in Newcomerstown is nice with a lot of memorabilia from two of the best known men in america who hail from that same town, Wayne "Woodrow" Hayes and Denton "Cy" Young. Maybe this new young gun can turn around the fortunes of the Raiders but he'll probably not stay around long as it's probably just the first step on his journey back toward's home from Kansas and in reality he's probably looking for a job closer to his hometown roots up I-77 and when he finds it, he's gone. JMO.

Nothing like positive thinking! i am sure coach hill let him know about the lack of community support before he came on board.
I heard jeff golden is helping with the offense coach winters is rumored to be returning. Looks like the rest of the staff has ohio univ ties most are young it also appears the new coach has a plan and that is refreshing. I think young energetic coaches that the kids can relate to are exactly what is needed. Good luck all

[BlizzardMan]

Well, the McDonald's at the edge of town in Newcomerstown is nice with a lot of memorabilia from two of the best known men in america who hail from that same town, Wayne "Woodrow" Hayes and Denton "Cy" Young. Maybe this new young gun can turn around the fortunes of the Raiders but he'll probably not stay around long as it's probably just the first step on his journey back toward's home from Kansas and in reality he's probably looking for a job closer to his hometown roots up I-77 and when he finds it, he's gone. JMO.

Nothing like positive thinking! i am sure coach hill let him know about the lack of community support before he came on board.
I heard jeff golden is helping with the offense coach winters is rumored to be returning. Looks like the rest of the staff has ohio univ ties most are young it also appears the new coach has a plan and that is refreshing. I think young energetic coaches that the kids can relate to are exactly what is needed. Good luck all

Well, the quarterbacks will definitely be well coached. It will be interesting to see if they spread it out. I am not sure they have the personell for this.

[ole_Bobcat]

There is more personel there than most of us know. It would be nice to see them be basic play defense and block and tackle solidly imho all they have needed to do to be competitive. Coaching can go a long ways toward winning i have also heaed numbers are good at weightlifting this summer.

[madpolecat]

Sparling has a solid plan for RV football (I have seen it) and will work his butt off to change the culture at RV.

I think you will see lots of positive movement for the Raiders. I hope the program gets support from the community and backing from the administration.

Good hunting to everybody over there in Bidwell.

[FANOSPORTS]

As far a personnel go, I've never been able to figure out since River Valley consolidated why the drop off ?. You combined essentially North Gallia, Southwestern and Kyger Creek (with Hannan Trace originally) and in the 30-40 years prior to the consolidation their were many championships won in many sports by each of these teams, especially Kyger Creek's football team in the old SVAC. Are there no families with kids anymore or is it the ole coaching carousels are just revolving too many times ? With all that geographic area there should be plenty of athletes in every sport but I know a big problem nowadays is just to get the kids to come out period along with keeping some of the better ones from going to Gallipolis.

[91blue14]

how many playoff caliber teams came out of the old svac ?

[BlizzardMan]

how many playoff caliber teams came out of the old svac ?

Good point blue. The county schools played each other and a couple more schools. That doesn't translate over to being a powerhouse when the teams that beat each other consolidated. The issue is that the school has still not overcame that consolidation and our youth programs in Gallia County have always been a joke compared to most other places. I have seen an improvement with how dinky dink basketball is being ran, buy midget league football has very little benefit as it is not sanctioned. Don't even get me started on baseball and softball youth programs. I was at a simmer kefir softball game last might on which high school girls were on the same field with 6 th graders. The coaches try and should be commended but something has to be done. It was the fryheat thing from fundamental softball I have seen for a long tome. We gotta get sanctioned pop Warner leagues for football as wellnas sanctioned in other youth sports. I know there are traveling leagues but they are way away from here. We have to change how we do youth sports.

[madpolecat]

Regarding the SVAC and playoffs question:

In what year did the playoff invites go from four teams to eight? (doubling the number of qualifiers)

In what year did the OHSAA move from five divisions to six?(also increasing the number of qualifiers by 20%)

When did the OHSAA move to divisional structure as opposed to A-AA-AAA classification?

Prior to the more than doubling of the number of playoff teams, how many appearances did teams we think of as playoff contenders (Jackson, Gallipolis, Symmes Valley)

The SVAC ceased to exist in 1992, right?

There was a time when going 9-1 as a Division V team (there was no D-VI) with wins against three D-IV teams didn't get anywhere near enough points for the playoffs.

[91blue14]

symmes valley gets smacked up when they make the playoffs nothing has changed. sure teams have benefited from the expansion of playoffs. but what has the old svac done in playoffs?

[MTSWNGRVSG]

If you take the playoff set up of today and put it with the old SVAC schools in Gallia County; Kyger Creek, Hannan Trace, North Gallia, and Southwestern-there would have been 7-9 teams that would have made the playoffs from 1980-1991. That would be Division VI today with 8 teams per region. One school missed it one year by 1/3 of a point when 4 teams went from 5 divisions. That does not even take into account all the teams before that such as the Kyger Creek Dynasty.

I think the 6 divisions started in say 98 or 99.

[FANOSPORTS]

symmes valley gets smacked up when they make the playoffs nothing has changed. sure teams have benefited from the expansion of playoffs. but what has the old svac done in playoffs?

I think the point the other poster's are trying to make is that before playoff expansion in the 80's-90's, how many teams in southern ohio made the playoffs regularly. Other than Ironton and Wheelersburg, no one made it regularly. If you go back to the late 60's and into the 70's in the SVAC when Kyger Creek , North Gallia and Eastern had decent sports teams the Ironton Tigers in football were probably the only "Southeastern Ohio" team to make the playoffs for years and that was when there were only 3 divisions with 4 teams in the entire state making the playoffs in each division (12 teams total) which started in 1972. Some of those class "A" North Gallia and Kyger Creek teams in football and basketball could beat the River Valley teams of today easily, no doubt in my mind. You have 192 teams that make the football playoffs now in 6 divisions, a far cry from back in the day. I know quite a few of the "old" teams would have made it, especially with today's standards.

[ole_Bobcat]

how many playoff caliber teams came out of the old svac ?

Well in the 50s 60s & 70s under the old A AA AAA format a lot fewer teams made the playoffs pluss there were 3 times as many A schools than any other division. It was also very political in those days. How many playoff teams did GA produce under the old format.

[Chained Eagle]

Football playoffs in Ohio started in 1972 with A-AA-AAA (12 teams qualified). This system was used through 1979. In 1980 the state moved to 5 divisions (40 teams qualified). In 1985 the number of teams qualifying for playoffs was doubled to 80. In 1994 a sixth division was added bringing the total playoff qualifiers to 96 teams. In 1999 this number was doubled to the current 192 teams.

Here is a link to the Ohio High School football playoff history.
http://ohsaa.org/sports/history/Tim_Hud ... otball.htm

Boys basketball used a two division system from 1923-1970. From 1971-1987 there were 3 divisions. 1988 was the first year for the current 4 division format.

[FANOSPORTS]

how many playoff caliber teams came out of the old svac ?

Well in the 50s 60s & 70s under the old A AA AAA format a lot fewer teams made the playoffs pluss there were 3 times as many A schools than any other division. It was also very political in those days. How many playoff teams did GA produce under the old format.

None under the old format. As I was saying in an ^^ earlier post, Ironton was the only one for years. All these other schools today should be glad that politics aren't involved now (as Ole Bobcat stated above) and so many teams can make the playoffs more easily (and we know why OHSAA did it this way, don't we $$$$$).

[wildthingRV]

Why must every thread about a Gallia County team turn into, "Hey remember when we were good four hundred years ago?"

Sparling is here NOW. He plan is NOW. Things are happening NOW.

[madpolecat]

wildthingRV...

So sensitive... have you been reading Jake Taylor's classic comics?

[ole_Bobcat]

how many playoff caliber teams came out of the old svac ?

Well in the 50s 60s & 70s under the old A AA AAA format a lot fewer teams made the playoffs pluss there were 3 times as many A schools than any other division. It was also very political in those days. How many playoff teams did GA produce under the old format.

None under the old format. As I was saying in an ^^ earlier post, Ironton was the only one for years. All these other schools today should be glad that politics aren't involved now (as Ole Bobcat stated above) and so many teams can make the playoffs more easily (and we know why OHSAA did it this way, don't we $$$$$).

I think most likely kyger creek would have been in the playoffs in 73,74,75,76,77, 79 football years,if back then we used todays format

Def in 79 hannan trace would have made it

[PIGSKIN JUNKIE]

I don't think the culture will change at RV until the community as a whole looks ahead and moves forward together. No one wants to see RV succeed more than I do. I have a ton of respect for Coach Mc and wish him nothing but the best in his new position. Good luck to the new staff.

[4thnpine]

who is the qb coach?

Well, the McDonald's at the edge of town in Newcomerstown is nice with a lot of memorabilia from two of the best known men in america who hail from that same town, Wayne "Woodrow" Hayes and Denton "Cy" Young. Maybe this new young gun can turn around the fortunes of the Raiders but he'll probably not stay around long as it's probably just the first step on his journey back toward's home from Kansas and in reality he's probably looking for a job closer to his hometown roots up I-77 and when he finds it, he's gone. JMO.

Nothing like positive thinking! i am sure coach hill let him know about the lack of community support before he came on board.
I heard jeff golden is helping with the offense coach winters is rumored to be returning. Looks like the rest of the staff has ohio univ ties most are young it also appears the new coach has a plan and that is refreshing. I think young energetic coaches that the kids can relate to are exactly what is needed. Good luck all

Well, the quarterbacks will definitely be well coached. It will be interesting to see if they spread it out. I am not sure they have the personell for this.

[4thnpine]

good numbers??????? 15? 20? 30?

There is more personel there than most of us know. It would be nice to see them be basic play defense and block and tackle solidly imho all they have needed to do to be competitive. Coaching can go a long ways toward winning i have also heaed numbers are good at weightlifting this summer.