#3 Jackson (11-0) vs #7 DeSales (9-2)

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Go Jackson! Pasteur believes in you.
http://www.fantastic50.net/Ohio_Picks.php
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Ptguard wrote:Go Jackson! Pasteur believes in you.
Well, his algorithm does, anyway.


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Sapientia et Veritas wrote:
Ptguard wrote:Go Jackson! Pasteur believes in you.
Well, his algorithm does, anyway.
Lol, his algorithm and corresponding "science" behind his picks had us losing to Ready and Burg during the regular season. Here is hoping to him being right on this one though lol.

I think his projection % with respect to accuracy gets better as the regular season progresses but falls back again a bit during the play-offs, which is understandable, although I haven't check this year to see what he or Calpreps is running.

I think they both approach 85% or so during the regular season after starting out mid-70% range, and then drop back down lol as the 8's and 7's beat the 1's and 2's. Not sure how he did in Region 9 in Week 11.

I think he also has TV winning over Athens, and I am having a hard time with that one, but have seen neither play this year, just last year's epic match-up in Logan.


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After seeing a couple of desales games on video I really think Jackson can win this game if the play with no mistakes. They seem to have a line that's about the size of irontons and there big yardage play seems to be the double reverse after they have pounded it up the middle several times. Follow the fullbacks lead that tells u where the runner is going,QB has some speed so the Ironmen will have to get to him quick..and when the backs come out and block the linebackers it's a crossing screen everytime. Good luck boys this is a game u can win!!


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Interesting stat from Pasteur's site.

He has DeSales playing the 7th toughest schedule in D3 out of 105 teams (calculated through I assume week 11).

Tri-Valley as #58 out of 105 teams in D3.
Jackson as #69 out of 105 teams in D3.
Athens as #90 out of 105 teams in D3.

Not that has anything to do with anything come Friday, but they have average a little tougher schedule than the other semi-finalist playing this week.


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doubleplay643 wrote:Interesting stat from Pasteur's site.

He has DeSales playing the 7th toughest schedule in D3 out of 105 teams (calculated through I assume week 11).

Tri-Valley as #58 out of 105 teams in D3.
Jackson as #69 out of 105 teams in D3.
Athens as #90 out of 105 teams in D3.

Not that has anything to do with anything come Friday, but they have average a little tougher schedule than the other semi-finalist playing this week.
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Anyone know if the one Jackson defensive player is 100%...he looked to cramp up or just tweek his hammy in pursuit of the long TD culprit last week. He came back in but was hobbled a touch. Hope he's good to go this week. He's had a nice season.


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doubleplay643 wrote:Interesting stat from Pasteur's site.

He has DeSales playing the 7th toughest schedule in D3 out of 105 teams (calculated through I assume week 11).

Tri-Valley as #58 out of 105 teams in D3.
Jackson as #69 out of 105 teams in D3.
Athens as #90 out of 105 teams in D3.

Not that has anything to do with anything come Friday, but they have average a little tougher schedule than the other semi-finalist playing this week.

They might not play as tough as they use to. I think they use to play about two of the top teams in Cincinnati.


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Tell em were coming and hell's coming with us! Go ironmen


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Ironmannut07 wrote:Tell em were coming and hell's coming with us! Go ironmen
Said Jim Humphreys one of the greatest Ironmen ever.

Call it coincidence but I believe the current sophomore class is the last class Mr. Humphreys sent out of "senior tackle" when they were in his program at the peewee level he ran for 22 plus years.


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Ironman92 wrote:Anyone know if the one Jackson defensive player is 100%...he looked to cramp up or just tweek his hammy in pursuit of the long TD culprit last week. He came back in but was hobbled a touch. Hope he's good to go this week. He's had a nice season.
One of my best friends in the world played football at Jackson years ago, and whenever I asked him if younger player X was at 100%, he would *always* assure me that he was, even if, technically, per advice of the doctors that he wasn't, I respected that. I am an Appalachian. A cracker. Rustic. A hill jack. Whatever. I don't like city slickers, and I think that's a virtue. I can't relate to yuppies, and I think that's a good thing. I've tried to reinforce that with my kids, too, but,face it, they went to a school with an unfortunate majority of city folk as well as the kind of cracker types that go 6-8 generations back on this continent. I'm tough. At 100%. It's m ongoing struggle. Eldest works in Zanesville, so ... So far, so good. If the mountain didn't fall on me and crush me, I'm fighting to the death. I got mixed feelings about this game. I grew up in a public school. Catholic in religion, but resenting the implicit and unfair advantages of urban catholic schools.

My assumption is that if a Jackson kid said he was at 90-100%, I would probably round to 80% - fArmers are modest. :evil:

I would set defensive threshold at 28 ish or so


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Sapientia et Veritas...truth and wisdom says that you can be catholic and have a bias for Appalachia lol, so come on over to our side in this one. We will make room on a crowded bleacher Friday night. No need to be conflicted and it won't even require a confession on Saturday lol.

I am glad no one in this thread has turned this game into another public/private school debate (like some others I have read), because no matter what everyone's opinion is on fair/not fair at the end of the day it is irrelevant. Most of the things we all have done in life, school, work, business are done at a disadvantage to some thing or some one, and to succeed you just figure out a way to defeat it and move on.

There is no better place than a Friday night football game for 40 or so 16-18 year olds to get a dose of that and figure it out. It will be one of a thousand more or so disadvantages they will face...so accept it, figure it out, and defeat your opponent. I have had the opportunity to watch these kids for a long time, and they are simply a great group, highly deserving of this opportunity.

Good luck to the Ironmen...Go Red!


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Sapientia et Veritas wrote:
Ironman92 wrote:Anyone know if the one Jackson defensive player is 100%...he looked to cramp up or just tweek his hammy in pursuit of the long TD culprit last week. He came back in but was hobbled a touch. Hope he's good to go this week. He's had a nice season.
One of my best friends in the world played football at Jackson years ago, and whenever I asked him if younger player X was at 100%, he would *always* assure me that he was, even if, technically, per advice of the doctors that he wasn't, I respected that. I am an Appalachian. A cracker. Rustic. A hill jack. Whatever. I don't like city slickers, and I think that's a virtue. I can't relate to yuppies, and I think that's a good thing. I've tried to reinforce that with my kids, too, but,face it, they went to a school with an unfortunate majority of city folk as well as the kind of cracker types that go 6-8 generations back on this continent. I'm tough. At 100%. It's m ongoing struggle. Eldest works in Zanesville, so ... So far, so good. If the mountain didn't fall on me and crush me, I'm fighting to the death. I got mixed feelings about this game. I grew up in a public school. Catholic in religion, but resenting the implicit and unfair advantages of urban catholic schools.

My assumption is that if a Jackson kid said he was at 90-100%, I would probably round to 80% - fArmers are modest. :evil:

I would set defensive threshold at 28 ish or so
So can he run fast or not? Lol


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This should be a heck of a game and one where those front lines are going to walk away battered and bruised. Desales offense is based on what Jackson's defense defends the best and that's the run. Jackson has seen multiple offenses this year and have had the same amount of time to prepare from week to week. Question is can Jackson's athletism be enough to stop desales when the big offensive line is leaning on them for 4 quarters. Obviously desales is going to make their share of plays as is the Jackson defense. Offensively Jackson has the ability to spread you out if they choose so honestly desales has more to prepare for then Jackson in that regards you know what you get with desales, I've seen Jackson play couple times this year in one game I seen them line up and smash it between the tackles for 4 quarters. In another I seen them from trying to smash it to shotgun spread you out and open up lanes and throw the ball. Jackson can't have 5 fumbles again I don't care who you play at this point, can't happen. I will take Jackson in a close one 27-21. Good luck to both teams regardless of outcome the real test will be the following week for the winner of this game.


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ill have to miss another ironmen game but ill be listening on the radio from south carolina having a few beers and rooting for them while my wife looks at me like im crazy lol. lets go big red!!!


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Good luck Jackson


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Game is tomorrow...this is getting pretty big. Regardless of what happens the true and intelligent fans will never forget this season, it's been spectacular. Play a sloppy game and lose 34-7 and the ignorant will focus on the deficit and start ignorantly slamming the schedule and not give this team the credit you've worked to earn. OR play a solid game and give it all you have and stay with them most all of the game and little will be said negative and your team will go down as one of the best and remembered by most. OR.....go out and make the plays when the chance arises,be a little sharper, be a little more focused and just keep showing everyone you want it more. Desales is used to the underdog coming after them and showing great heart, it's going to take more than that. There will be several chances throughout this game to make a game changing/sealing/winning play. It's unpredictable as to who or when they will occur. Each kid needs to dream of those type plays and then be ready to make those dream plays come true tomorrow. WIN this game and no one will forget anything and more importantly, then you'll be in the regional finals where only 1 other football team at JHS and only 2 other teams across all the sports have done in the long history of Jackson. A chance to play for a final 4....everything about this city will be poppin.

Dream it....Do it.

Ironmen!


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Ironman92 wrote:Game is tomorrow...this is getting pretty big. Regardless of what happens the true and intelligent fans will never forget this season, it's been spectacular. Play a sloppy game and lose 34-7 and the ignorant will focus on the deficit and start ignorantly slamming the schedule and not give this team the credit you've worked to earn. OR play a solid game and give it all you have and stay with them most all of the game and little will be said negative and your team will go down as one of the best and remembered by most. OR.....go out and make the plays when the chance arises,be a little sharper, be a little more focused and just keep showing everyone you want it more. Desales is used to the underdog coming after them and showing great heart, it's going to take more than that. There will be several chances throughout this game to make a game changing/sealing/winning play. It's unpredictable as to who or when they will occur. Each kid needs to dream of those type plays and then be ready to make those dream plays come true tomorrow. WIN this game and no one will forget anything and more importantly, then you'll be in the regional finals where only 1 other football team at JHS and only 2 other teams across all the sports have done in the long history of Jackson. A chance to play for a final 4....everything about this city will be poppin.

Dream it....Do it.

Ironmen!
I second that!!


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doubleplay643 wrote:Sapientia et Veritas...truth and wisdom says that you can be catholic and have a bias for Appalachia lol, so come on over to our side in this one. We will make room on a crowded bleacher Friday night.
Last year at the regional final a bunch of burg-hating Minford/Portsmouth guys sat near me. We got along fine. Gave me an earful or two about transfers and Kentuckians. Last weekend a pair of West-hating boys sat in my area. You wear some overalls with a hoodie under another coat and shake a popcorn kernel filled milk jug like a deranged nut and a southern fellow might think you're not all bad for a city slicker snob school dad.


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Ironmannut07 I'll be there representing for ya buddy miss the old times!


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