BACK COACH BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[annieb]

Wow! All this support for a football coach! I know he is a great coach, but life is much bigger than who is coaching the local high school football team. The decision has probably already been made. You can't get people to support things like cancer societies, but round them up for a football coach! What's done is done! Let it go.

Wow, it's not just about coaching....it's about a human being. It's about a family who for 43 years one way or other has been part of the Nelsonville football family. It's about destroying a person's life for what may not be all the right reasons. By the way, I do support cancer societies, and volunteer to help the poor, and anything else that I can possibly be part of. Hopefully, you have not or will not ever have to go through a situation like this....and if you do, hopefully you will have those that will be there to back you.

[BlizzardMan]

So losing his coaching job will ruijn his life? That seems a little extreme. If he is ousted, it is probably because he did something he wasn't suppose to and did not do something he was supposed to. Period. Nobody fires a coach like Boston unless they have no choice.

[Orange and Brown]

That is partially true, if there is to be a vote though it has to be in public as Ohio's Sunshine Laws require that any vote be made in public. The BOE is supposed to allow public comment also before voting. You are right that any discussion of personnel must be done in executive session.

thanks I forgot that part of course when they are behind closed doors everything will be hashed out and decided before returning for vote..

how was this announced? as a school board meeting or as a personnel meeting? if its not a personnel do they have to let comments its been awhile since I was involved in public meetings and cannot remember.. but with all the rumors flying they need to settle it for the taxpayers and faithful fans of NY good luck Monday night I will be out of town...

The regular school board meeting is scheduled for June 9th.

[Syntax]

I agree with Blizzard. Unless you have a death wish, you don't fire a Boston unless you have to. He's a pretty beloved guy in the town - and for good reason. Since many others previously in these threads have gone ahead and started rumors as to why, I'll try to piece them together to garner a coherent theory:

Apparently, when Coach was hired or sometime after, he was told that he had a deadline to finish his degree. My theory is because of the money that he is getting paid: face it, how many ultra-tiny schools llike Nelsonville pay thier Athletic Directors a full-time teacher's salary without even possessing a college degree? No one here is saying that he isn't worth it, because it's obvious that he emulates the same intrinsic love for young people that his father does. He has certainly been worth the money. But the same year he was hired, a number of teaching aides were cut because of "budget problems." So, the answer appears to have been to temporarily pay him full-time to be the AD until he finished his degree, then place him in the district wherever his degree allowed. This way, the district could bypass their own "no administrator allowed to coach" rule for a few years to allow him to finish; they could have him teaching in the district and return the AD position to what every other school has: a supplemental position.

The null hypothesis of this theory is that they fired him as the football coach. This the part that doesn't make any sense. You don't need anything to coach in Ohio besides a negative Background check and a Pupil Advisory certificate. I'm not sure about the AD position, but I don't think you need a degree for that, either, because again, most schools have this position as being comparable to a coach's: a supplemental. But the bottom line is that he wasn't fired as the AD; he quit. None of this makes any sense.

So what gives? Unless someone is really "In The Know," then none of us will really be in the know.

[buckfan84]

Again, Davey did not quit the AD position. He is still the NY AD, he was fired as the head coach. So, the theory that the degree was needed is not correct.

[Pickbuck86]

Whatever Coach Boston did to get fired from his coaching position must not have been that bad as he was not fired as Ad. And, if they actually wanted him to stay on as Ad, wouldn't somebody have thought to ask him to quietly resign on his own terms instead of this public lynching of him and his family? Did the people responsible for this actually believe that this would not cause controversy? I know a lot of people in this community support the Bostons and what they have done for this town. I honestly believe that the ugly mob behind this is trying to not only bring down the Boston family, but to shame them in the process. Even if there is nothing that we can do to save our coach, we all need to be at the school on Monday night to show the Bostons that we love them and respect them!!!

[BlizzardMan]

Maybe the board has a good reason. If Dave wanted to ensure a lon-term job as Coach, he should have became a teacher. As good a coach he is, this is the way things work. Maybe they assumed that he would quit as AD.

[Orestes]

Whatever Coach Boston did to get fired from his coaching position must not have been that bad as he was not fired as Ad. And, if they actually wanted him to stay on as Ad, wouldn't somebody have thought to ask him to quietly resign on his own terms instead of this public lynching of him and his family? Did the people responsible for this actually believe that this would not cause controversy? I know a lot of people in this community support the Bostons and what they have done for this town. I honestly believe that the ugly mob behind this is trying to not only bring down the Boston family, but to shame them in the process. Even if there is nothing that we can do to save our coach, we all need to be at the school on Monday night to show the Bostons that we love them and respect them!!!

I'm sure the distinction being made between coach and AD is the direct work with kids. When I was in high school, I rarely saw the AD. Also, this could mean the "reason (s)" for the decision was something isolated to being a coach.

Finally, if common sense dictates that controversy would result from the firing, that same common sense might dictate that Boston would quit his AD job if he were fired from his coaching job. This washes the hands of the employer in regards to the higher paying job. It doesn't take much to legally justify firing a high school coach. However, the AD job may be a bit more difficult to navigate. <---- Just a guess.

[WitnessProtection]

The AD's job is an administrative position, so there's probably a multi-year contract involved (just speculation since I don't know how the N-Y district handles contracts).
I agree, it is easier to rid yourself of a coach than an administrator, since most coaches are granted one-year supplemental contracts.
Does anybody have any idea what occurred for the board to strip him of the coaching duties?

[Orange and Brown]

Don't forget 5:00, Better get there a little early!!!!!!!!!

[geck0]

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[Orange and Brown]

1 hour until the meeting. Please lets all show up and support not only our coach, but a man who cares only about his community and kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[buckfan84]

Davey is still coach, the board decided that the coaching staff would remain the same. Thanks to the 200 people that turned up to support the Bostons!!!!

[Orange and Brown]

Looks like the rest of the TVC will just have to fight it out for 2nd place again this year!!!!!!!

[55buckeyes98]

Davey is still coach, the board decided that the coaching staff would remain the same. Thanks to the 200 people that turned up to support the Bostons!!!!

But will the whole staff stay the same? I thought a few assistants were not coaching next season?

[BlizzardMan]

So the community of Nelsonville puts winning TVC Ohio football championships over all else. Maybe Boston did something behind closed doors that merits being fired. Nice to see you got your priorities straight. He probably had to agree to get his degree again. Maybe he will actually follow through this time. Good luck Buckeyes.

[buckfan84]

Or maybe, just maybe, he didn't do anything worth firing him for. If he had done something so bad why wasn't he fired as AD?

As far as Nelsonville putting TVC-Ohio crowns before all else, I think we simply put a person before politics and that is exactly what it was.

[Orestes]

So the community of Nelsonville puts winning TVC Ohio football championships over all else. Maybe Boston did something behind closed doors that merits being fired. Nice to see you got your priorities straight. He probably had to agree to get his degree again. Maybe he will actually follow through this time. Good luck Buckeyes.

Take this with a grain of salt, as this is just me synthesizing information from all over the map....

I think they are distinguishing between actions that justify a dismissal and actions which require a dismissal.

Once it is decided that the actions merely justify a dismissal, an employer must balance these actions with the positives the employee brings to the table. Here, I believe the TVC titles, the players' support, the community support, and the mentoring of the athletes outweighed the negative factors. Also, the employer may decide if the negative factors are correctable. We don't know for sure what these factors are, but it is likely they are correctable. Few things are not.

[BlizzardMan]

As has been said about six times already, they probably wanted him to quit as AD. I think the school board just wanted to get elected for their next terms. That is the main reason this happened. I have nothing but respect for Coach Boston, but I think it is unfair to through the Super under the bus without knowing the whole story. He does not have to justify the firing of Coach Boston to anyone.

[buckfan84]

I would agree with you about the super. I can't imagine him making a decision like that without some inkling that the BOE would back him. I hope that people don't think he was alone in that original decision.