Burg Vs. Ironton

[Bleeding Red]

If I can be serious for a minute. This is usually a pretty great game. Both teams come in to it prepared and ready to play. With it being the first game of the season it comes down to who makes the least amount of mistakes. Look at lats years game IF Ironton takes care of the ball and IF Burg doesnt score when they got those turnovers the game turns out totally different. Both teams have some good players back and both teams lost some good players. I know its 3 months away, but Im predicting a very good game with Ironton coming out on top by a TD.

Burg will beat Ironton next year.

[thecoach]

it'll be another good one with Ironton winning by 7 or less.

[burgtown2008]

If the Burg can get the lead don't get in the way of Ironton fans leaving at the half. Seen it before, it will be like someone hollering SWINE FLU run for your life.

[ohbuckeye2]

If the Burg can get the lead don't get in the way of Ironton fans leaving at the half. Seen it before, it will be like someone hollering SWINE FLU run for your life.

I don't think we'll have to worry about that happening.

[85inside]

I just checked the series record between these two schools.....Id say theres little chance of a stampede at halftime. Its nice to see Burg's confidence back for this series though. The Pirates were doormats for the Tigers for 2 decades.

[philthyphil]

There are two things I am getting sick of with Ironton football, losing to Wheelersburg and losing to Logan.

If Lutz and company don't change the offense soon, it's gonna keep on happening.

[d-5]

If I can be serious for a minute. This is usually a pretty great game. Both teams come in to it prepared and ready to play. With it being the first game of the season it comes down to who makes the least amount of mistakes. Look at lats years game IF Ironton takes care of the ball and IF Burg doesnt score when they got those turnovers the game turns out totally different. Both teams have some good players back and both teams lost some good players. I know its 3 months away, but Im predicting a very good game with Ironton coming out on top by a TD.

The BURG uses this game to see where we are at, nice post tigercannon

[fbnut]

the burg had a 3-3 regular season record against ironton in the 90's, hardly a doormat.

I just checked the series record between these two schools.....Id say theres little chance of a stampede at halftime. Its nice to see Burg's confidence back for this series though. The Pirates were doormats for the Tigers for 2 decades.

[grizzlynatural]

If I can be serious for a minute. This is usually a pretty great game. Both teams come in to it prepared and ready to play. With it being the first game of the season it comes down to who makes the least amount of mistakes. Look at lats years game IF Ironton takes care of the ball and IF Burg doesnt score when they got those turnovers the game turns out totally different. Both teams have some good players back and both teams lost some good players. I know its 3 months away, but Im predicting a very good game with Ironton coming out on top by a TD.

Your right that its going to come down to who will make the least amount of mistakes which will most likely be Ironton with the brand of football that you guys play.

[yabbadabbadoo]

I just checked the series record between these two schools.....Id say theres little chance of a stampede at halftime. Its nice to see Burg's confidence back for this series though. The Pirates were doormats for the Tigers for 2 decades.

R U freakin' serious!!!!!!!!!!

Look at the scores of some of those games and look how one play here or there this series is a little closer than 13-5. Confidence for this game. I can tell you one thing that Burg never has a lack of confidence in any sporting event they play. When a Pirate player steps onto a field or a court, it has been enstilled in them that they are here for one reason and that reason is to win that contest on that paticular night. Is it cocky? Maybe to a degree, but more that anything it is confidence. If you walk onto a playing surface thinking you are going to lose, more times than not you will.

94-Burg lost 14-7.
97-Burg lost 10-7
00-Burg lost 10-3
03-Burg lost 22-10 after leading 10-0 at half. Ironton has trouble stopping the spread offense, so what does Burg do. Come out the second half and starts running the ball, gets conservative and Ironton scores 22 unanswered points. IMO, if Burg stays with what got them the lead, they win this game
04-Burg lost 21-0. Game was 0-0 at half and was still 0-0 late in the 3rd.
05-Burg lost 7-6. Game they would have won if not for the yellow hanky as they had the ball on the 2 yard line with under a minute to go.
06-Burg lost 24-21. This game was back and forth and could have went either way.

IMO this series could easily be about 10-8 in favor of Ironton, so to say that the Burg has been a doormat for the Tigers over the last two decades is a little absurd. Surprised you didn't throw in the old, "if this wasn't the first game of the year for the Tigers" line I've heard before. I'm not for sure, but I think this has been the first game for the Pirates too for awhile.

This will probably be one of the fastest teams that the Burg has ever had and that is on both sides of the ball. Lot of speed out there on the field.

[85inside]

I just checked the series record between these two schools.....Id say theres little chance of a stampede at halftime. Its nice to see Burg's confidence back for this series though. The Pirates were doormats for the Tigers for 2 decades.

R U freakin' serious!!!!!!!!!!

Look at the scores of some of those games and look how one play here or there this series is a little closer than 13-5. Confidence for this game. I can tell you one thing that Burg never has a lack of confidence in any sporting event they play. When a Pirate player steps onto a field or a court, it has been enstilled in them that they are here for one reason and that reason is to win that contest on that paticular night. Is it cocky? Maybe to a degree, but more that anything it is confidence. If you walk onto a playing surface thinking you are going to lose, more times than not you will.

94-Burg lost 14-7.
97-Burg lost 10-7
00-Burg lost 10-3
03-Burg lost 22-10 after leading 10-0 at half. Ironton has trouble stopping the spread offense, so what does Burg do. Come out the second half and starts running the ball, gets conservative and Ironton scores 22 unanswered points. IMO, if Burg stays with what got them the lead, they win this game
04-Burg lost 21-0. Game was 0-0 at half and was still 0-0 late in the 3rd.
05-Burg lost 7-6. Game they would have won if not for the yellow hanky as they had the ball on the 2 yard line with under a minute to go.
06-Burg lost 24-21. This game was back and forth and could have went either way.

IMO this series could easily be about 10-8 in favor of Ironton, so to say that the Burg has been a doormat for the Tigers over the last two decades is a little absurd. Surprised you didn't throw in the old, "if this wasn't the first game of the year for the Tigers" line I've heard before. I'm not for sure, but I think this has been the first game for the Pirates too for awhile.

This will probably be one of the fastest teams that the Burg has ever had and that is on both sides of the ball. Lot of speed out there on the field.

You are right. A play here or a play there and Ironton dominates this series even more. Just think if we could have played all those years the Burg dodged the Fighting Tigers.

[Neutron Man]

[quote]94-Burg lost 14-7.
97-Burg lost 10-7
00-Burg lost 10-3
03-Burg lost 22-10 after leading 10-0 at half. Ironton has trouble stopping the spread offense, so what does Burg do. Come out the second half and starts running the ball, gets conservative and Ironton scores 22 unanswered points. IMO, if Burg stays with what got them the lead, they win this game
04-Burg lost 21-0. Game was 0-0 at half and was still 0-0 late in the 3rd.
05-Burg lost 7-6. Game they would have won if not for the yellow hanky as they had the ball on the 2 yard line with under a minute to go.
06-Burg lost 24-21. This game was back and forth and could have went either way.
/quote]

Look I'm a Burg fan and while I know what you're saying, it really boils down to this. A loss is a loss, no matter how close. So yes Burg has unfortunately been domintaed by the Tigers the past several years. Burg played Ironton really well those years but when plays needed to be made Ironton made em, not the Pirates. Luckily the past two years have been wins and hopefully the wins will come more often making that record a little closer.

[BRUTUS IS A BEAST]

is this always the first game of the season for them? It seems like a tough first game to me

[fbnut]

It wasn't always about plays being made or not made, sometimes it was about flags being thrown or not thrown.

94-Burg lost 14-7.
97-Burg lost 10-7
00-Burg lost 10-3
03-Burg lost 22-10 after leading 10-0 at half. Ironton has trouble stopping the spread offense, so what does Burg do. Come out the second half and starts running the ball, gets conservative and Ironton scores 22 unanswered points. IMO, if Burg stays with what got them the lead, they win this game
04-Burg lost 21-0. Game was 0-0 at half and was still 0-0 late in the 3rd.
05-Burg lost 7-6. Game they would have won if not for the yellow hanky as they had the ball on the 2 yard line with under a minute to go.
06-Burg lost 24-21. This game was back and forth and could have went either way.
/quote]

Look I'm a Burg fan and while I know what you're saying, it really boils down to this. A loss is a loss, no matter how close. So yes Burg has unfortunately been domintaed by the Tigers the past several years. Burg played Ironton really well those years but when plays needed to be made Ironton made em, not the Pirates. Luckily the past two years have been wins and hopefully the wins will come more often making that record a little closer.

[fbnut]

When this current series started in 94 the games were played in week 3 I think. It went to week 1 5 -6 games into the series.

is this always the first game of the season for them? It seems like a tough first game to me

[Neutron Man]

It wasn't always about plays being made or not made, sometimes it was about flags being thrown or not thrown.

94-Burg lost 14-7.
97-Burg lost 10-7
00-Burg lost 10-3
03-Burg lost 22-10 after leading 10-0 at half. Ironton has trouble stopping the spread offense, so what does Burg do. Come out the second half and starts running the ball, gets conservative and Ironton scores 22 unanswered points. IMO, if Burg stays with what got them the lead, they win this game
04-Burg lost 21-0. Game was 0-0 at half and was still 0-0 late in the 3rd.
05-Burg lost 7-6. Game they would have won if not for the yellow hanky as they had the ball on the 2 yard line with under a minute to go.
06-Burg lost 24-21. This game was back and forth and could have went either way.
/quote]

Look I'm a Burg fan and while I know what you're saying, it really boils down to this. A loss is a loss, no matter how close. So yes Burg has unfortunately been domintaed by the Tigers the past several years. Burg played Ironton really well those years but when plays needed to be made Ironton made em, not the Pirates. Luckily the past two years have been wins and hopefully the wins will come more often making that record a little closer.

Yeah Always a popular excuse.
While yes this may be the case, A loss is a loss and the best thing Burg can do is just make plays and get the win.
Even if the zebras make it difficult.

[Westfan]

As an outsider, I think it's a big advantage and smart for Burg to play them the first game of the year. Alot of what Burg does is based on diception (come out running the spread and things) that some game planning for your Ironton's defense is really needed. This isn't the case for Ironton as they've been running the same stuff for 30 years. Lutz is a great coach and is very good at adjusting at halftime and as the season goes along. That is why they seem to always come back at the burg in the second half.

If I remember right, West's only win against Ironton was the first game of the year at the tank. They got better as the year went along and we didn't, so they got us in the playoffs.

[ohbuckeye2]

When this current series started in 94 the games were played in week 3 I think. It went to week 1 5 -6 games into the series.

is this always the first game of the season for them? It seems like a tough first game to me

94-97 games were played in week 4.
98-present games have been played in week 1.

[85inside]

As an outsider, I think it's a big advantage and smart for Burg to play them the first game of the year. Alot of what Burg does is based on diception (come out running the spread and things) that some game planning for your Ironton's defense is really needed. This isn't the case for Ironton as they've been running the same stuff for 30 years. Lutz is a great coach and is very good at adjusting at halftime and as the season goes along. That is why they seem to always come back at the burg in the second half.

If I remember right, West's only win against Ironton was the first game of the year at the tank. They got better as the year went along and we didn't, so they got us in the playoffs.

1990. West beat Ironton in the open game of the year at the Tank, 14-0. Howell was a great player for West.

[ItownHosscat]

Are you talking about Brian Howell?