Random SEOAL Thoughts

[loganlocos]

So you are judging someone for judging someone else? Interesting......

I'm not judging anyone. Let's just show a little consistency is all I'm asking.

[GoChiefs]

Some random thoughts of my own....and a few numbers. For some reason I haven't been able to comprehend the excitement that Logan fans get from the prospect of beating Ironton. But, the more I thought about it the more I understood. That's all they have. For them beating one of the storied programs in Ohio high school football history is the only success they have ever had. For them that validates them as a program. To beat a program that has played in more state championship games(8) than they have playoff appearances(7) somehow lets them rise above the fact they've always had a mediocre big school program. Despite the fact these Ironton teams have not been as strong as they have been in the past, and the fact they have a rapidly shrinking enrollment, you take those victories and be proud, heck get you a trophy made if it makes you feel better about the fact you will never have the success Ironton has had.

Ironton has always been a little different. We don't consider league championships or a good regular season a success. We don't hang banners for league titles(which is good because we wouldn't really have room with all the SEOAL and OKAC titles we have won in the past) and our kids don't get t-shirts and brag about being SEOAL champs. For Ironton and Coach Lutz playing the regular season has always been about getting ready for the playoffs. So if playing a bigger, "better" team like Logan and possibly losing makes us better, so be it. I'm sure someone is going to get on here and say where has your success been lately. My only response will be, "When was yours ever?"

I see yet another poster that's upset b/c they can't dominate the Chiefs and win like they thought they were going to. But yes..go ahead and keep repeating the only thing you guys can say about the Chiefs..that's ok..it'll still be a win for the Chiefs in 2 weeks..and then..you and many others will come back on that Friday night and post the above statement that you just made. B/c you'll be bitter that you lost to Logan yet again and that's really the only thing you'll be able to say! And if League Championships didn't matter..why jump ship back to the SEOAL? Then why leave when you realize you can't win one? LOL...If they didn't matter..they would have stayed independent..nice try though!

[CarmenOhio]

Some random thoughts of my own....and a few numbers. For some reason I haven't been able to comprehend the excitement that Logan fans get from the prospect of beating Ironton. But, the more I thought about it the more I understood. That's all they have. For them beating one of the storied programs in Ohio high school football history is the only success they have ever had. For them that validates them as a program. To beat a program that has played in more state championship games(8) than they have playoff appearances(7) somehow lets them rise above the fact they've always had a mediocre big school program. Despite the fact these Ironton teams have not been as strong as they have been in the past, and the fact they have a rapidly shrinking enrollment, you take those victories and be proud, heck get you a trophy made if it makes you feel better about the fact you will never have the success Ironton has had.

Ironton has always been a little different. We don't consider league championships or a good regular season a success. We don't hang banners for league titles(which is good because we wouldn't really have room with all the SEOAL and OKAC titles we have won in the past) and our kids don't get t-shirts and brag about being SEOAL champs. For Ironton and Coach Lutz playing the regular season has always been about getting ready for the playoffs. So if playing a bigger, "better" team like Logan and possibly losing makes us better, so be it. I'm sure someone is going to get on here and say where has your success been lately. My only response will be, "When was yours ever?"

I see yet another poster that's upset b/c they can't dominate the Chiefs and win like they thought they were going to. But yes..go ahead and keep repeating the only thing you guys can say about the Chiefs..that's ok..it'll still be a win for the Chiefs in 2 weeks..and then..you and many others will come back on that Friday night and post the above statement that you just made. B/c you'll be bitter that you lost to Logan yet again and that's really the only thing you'll be able to say! And if League Championships didn't matter..why jump ship back to the SEOAL? Then why leave when you realize you can't win one? LOL...If they didn't matter..they would have stayed independent..nice try though!

I'm not upset one bit. I believe my post was very well thought out and devoid of any emotion. The only reason you hear people repeat this about Logan is because it is true. You will possibly win the SEOAL and you hold no illusions that you will achieve any real playoff success which is a virtual certainty judging by your track record. I won't be bitter at all about losing to Logan (if we do), you are a much larger playoff caliber school. Besides, I think our record against Logan speaks for itself. As far as the rejoining the league to win a championship? I believe everyone knows the decision to rejoin the league was not a very popular one around Ironton. The decision was fueled by an athletic director who has since "been removed". As far as leaving the league, it is a pretty well known fact that this athletic program is headed into the red because of joining this league.

[GoChiefs]

I'm not upset one bit. I believe my post was very well thought out and devoid of any emotion. The only reason you hear people repeat this about Logan is because it is true. You will possibly win the SEOAL and you hold no illusions that you will achieve any real playoff success which is a virtual certainty judging by your track record. I won't be bitter at all about losing to Logan (rif we do), you ae a much larger playoff caliber school. Besides, I think our record against Logan speaks for itself. As far as the rejoining the league to win a championship? I believe everyone knows the decision to rejoin the league was not a very popular one around Ironton. The decision was fueled by an athletic director who has since "been removed". As far as leaving the league, it is a pretty well known fact that this athletic program is headed into the red because of joining this league.

The only one's saying it is Ironton fans that have nothing else to say when they get there butts handed to them. Lol If all that makes you sleep better at night..go ahead. I sleep just fine..don't need any excuses when the Chiefs lose...I don't try to justify our losses and blame on numbers and whatever else you want to blame it on. As for your record against Logan..yeah..your right..it does speak for itself..it's been REAL good lately hasn't it? And admit it..you can tell already..when/if Logan wins..you will be coming on here with your excuses as you have already set them up in your post for when it happens. You will just come on and say the above reasons is why you lost. Numbers don't mean jack..if you believe they do..then you are one of the fans that just look for excuses as to why you lost..there is MANY smaller schools that would compete with schools 3 times there size..so that's just a cop out as well. Just like Ironton does every year. And hey..you can say that all you want about your reasons for leaving the league too...fact is..if you were dominating the league like they thought they would...you would not be leaving the league.

[loganlocos]

As far as leaving the league, it is a pretty well known fact that this athletic program is headed into the red because of joining this league.

I'm sure the overall downturn of the economy has had nothing to do with it. EVERY school, regardless of league affiliation or independence has seen gate receipts go down and expenses go up.

[SPAMONY]

As far as leaving the league, it is a pretty well known fact that this athletic program is headed into the red because of joining this league.

I'm sure the overall downturn of the economy has had nothing to do with it. EVERY school, regardless of league affiliation or independence has seen gate receipts go down and expenses go up.

thats totally false Minford, Portsmouth, Burg all have had the same if not better attendance....cheaper than dinner and a movie!!!!!!

[2old]

Well the Ironton program has fallen off so of course more fans decide to stay home or go watch the river. Perhaps if Ironton would ever win a football championship this century some of the fans woudl come back.

For example come to a Logan home game. The Chiefs keep winning championships and the stands are full of fans rooting for the Chieftains. i am sure Tanks was liek this back in the 1900's.

[wrestlefan1]

you're tiger bait
if ironton will play anybody, anytime, anywhere
why bail from the seoal?

[ohbuckeye2]

Well the Ironton program has fallen off so of course more fans decide to stay home or go watch the river. Perhaps if Ironton would ever win a football championship this century some of the fans woudl come back.

For example come to a Logan home game. The Chiefs keep winning championships and the stands are full of fans rooting for the Chieftains. i am sure Tanks was liek this back in the 1900's.

Maybe you should check out the game clips on Irontonfootball.com, the stands are packed and Ironton Football is doing just fine, Logans not the only team in the League thats 3-0.

I'll make it easy for you to find here's a link

http://www.irontonfootball.com/09-video ... expage.htm

[loganlocos]

As far as leaving the league, it is a pretty well known fact that this athletic program is headed into the red because of joining this league.

I'm sure the overall downturn of the economy has had nothing to do with it. EVERY school, regardless of league affiliation or independence has seen gate receipts go down and expenses go up.

thats totally false Minford, Portsmouth, Burg all have had the same if not better attendance....cheaper than dinner and a movie!!!!!!

Spamony -

So you're saying their transportation costs are the same as 6 years ago? Because if so I'd like to know where they are buying fuel.

And based on my last trip to Portsmouth, if their football attendance hasn't fallen then there wasn't much there to begin with. The same can be said for Ironton when I went to the Tank last.

[Orange and Brown]

Some random thoughts of my own....and a few numbers. For some reason I haven't been able to comprehend the excitement that Logan fans get from the prospect of beating Ironton. But, the more I thought about it the more I understood. That's all they have. For them beating one of the storied programs in Ohio high school football history is the only success they have ever had. For them that validates them as a program. To beat a program that has played in more state championship games(8) than they have playoff appearances(7) somehow lets them rise above the fact they've always had a mediocre big school program. Despite the fact these Ironton teams have not been as strong as they have been in the past, and the fact they have a rapidly shrinking enrollment, you take those victories and be proud, heck get you a trophy made if it makes you feel better about the fact you will never have the success Ironton has had.

Ironton has always been a little different. We don't consider league championships or a good regular season a success. We don't hang banners for league titles(which is good because we wouldn't really have room with all the SEOAL and OKAC titles we have won in the past) and our kids don't get t-shirts and brag about being SEOAL champs. For Ironton and Coach Lutz playing the regular season has always been about getting ready for the playoffs. So if playing a bigger, "better" team like Logan and possibly losing makes us better, so be it. I'm sure someone is going to get on here and say where has your success been lately. My only response will be, "When was yours ever?"

Hear are my random thoughts....................................... It's okay that you don't care about league championships because well you haven't won any this time around. correct me if I am wrong but don't your 8 state championship games get you crap this year? It's been almost 30 years since Nelsonville-York has won a state title so am I right to assume that the reason we haven't won another is because we haven't been living in the past? We all know that Ironton used to kick the crap out of Logan 30 years ago, but I am trying to figure out how that makes you guys better than Logan now! You guys all brag about all your past success but when was the last time you won a state title? I have a lot of respect for the Ironton program as a hole but dear god Please quit living in the past!!!!!!! Those are just me random thoughts.

[noreply66]

like I have said before Ironton is like the New York Yankees

All their championships hasn't been doing a thing for them lately.And a lot of people love to hate teams like them.


Go New York

[SPAMONY]

I'm sure the overall downturn of the economy has had nothing to do with it. EVERY school, regardless of league affiliation or independence has seen gate receipts go down and expenses go up.[/quote]



thats totally false Minford, Portsmouth, Burg all have had the same if not better attendance....cheaper than dinner and a movie!!!!!![/quote]

Spamony -

So you're saying their transportation costs are the same as 6 years ago? Because if so I'd like to know where they are buying fuel.

And based on my last trip to Portsmouth, if their football attendance hasn't fallen then there wasn't much there to begin with. The same can be said for Ironton when I went to the Tank last.[/quote]


i would say they are at 15000 to 18000 combined attendance for the 2 home games this year so i would say its up ALOT

[ohbuckeye2]

It's funny that people think Ironton hasn't done anything since the 90's, we had a couple down years (6-5) and (5-5) and everyone thinks Irontons world fell apart.

Info from Irontonfootball.com

Irontons record since 2000 (this century)

2000--10-2
2001--11-1.......Undefeated Regular Season
2002--9-3
2003--10-2
2004--10-2
2005--10-3
2006--6-5
2007--5-5
2008--8-4
2009--3-0

Regular Season (73-19)
Playoffs (9-8)
Overall (82-27)

Playoffs---2000,01,02,03,04,05,06,08
Regional Finals 2 times
Regional Semi Finals 7 times

[ohbuckeye2]

like I have said before Ironton is like the New York Yankees

All their championships hasn't been doing a thing for them lately.And a lot of people love to hate teams like them.

Go New York

You are right about that........

[GoChiefs]

Who said Ironton hasn't done anything? I've said Ironton hasn't won ANY kind of Championship lately..and they haven't beat the Chieftains lately. What part of that am I wrong about?

[Paladin]

The best thing the sportsmen on the river have shown this century is show how they take their ball and go home when they can't win titles any more. Forget about state titles of last century. Try league titles. Heck any titles. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

People fall all over themselves laughing to read the nonsense that the geritol crowd post about history in the last century , now long since gone with nothing to show for it in the new century . For sure, we still have to contend with the braggards and fans with no class spouting off dribble. But for years now, the sportsmen have shown that their words could not match their deeds on the field against the Chiefs. Thus, its time to take their ball and run home to Mommy.

Quitters again.

Jealous.

And no titles of any kind.

[grizzlynatural]

The best thing the sportsmen on the river have shown this century is show how they take their ball and go home when they can't win titles any more. Forget about state titles of last century. Try league titles. Heck any titles. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

People fall all over themselves laughing to read the nonsense that the geritol crowd post about history in the last century , now long since gone with nothing to show for it in the new century . For sure, we still have to contend with the braggards and fans with no class spouting off dribble. But for years now, the sportsmen have shown that their words could not match their deeds on the field against the Chiefs. Thus, its time to take their ball and run home to Mommy.

Quitters again.

Jealous.

And no titles of any kind.

I LOVE FOOTBALL!!!! LOL

Gee Whizz fellas this things getting intense and i havent made a post on it yet!

Fair evaluation of the league 2old. I think Warren deserves good praise, they have been biting their tounge and doing exactly what you have been preaching. GETTING IN THE WEIGHT ROOM AND GETTING BETTER!.

[Frogtownbuckeye]

Some random thoughts of my own....and a few numbers. For some reason I haven't been able to comprehend the excitement that Logan fans get from the prospect of beating Ironton. But, the more I thought about it the more I understood. That's all they have. For them beating one of the storied programs in Ohio high school football history is the only success they have ever had. For them that validates them as a program. To beat a program that has played in more state championship games(8) than they have playoff appearances(7) somehow lets them rise above the fact they've always had a mediocre big school program. Despite the fact these Ironton teams have not been as strong as they have been in the past, and the fact they have a rapidly shrinking enrollment, you take those victories and be proud, heck get you a trophy made if it makes you feel better about the fact you will never have the success Ironton has had.

Ironton has always been a little different. We don't consider league championships or a good regular season a success. We don't hang banners for league titles(which is good because we wouldn't really have room with all the SEOAL and OKAC titles we have won in the past) and our kids don't get t-shirts and brag about being SEOAL champs. For Ironton and Coach Lutz playing the regular season has always been about getting ready for the playoffs. So if playing a bigger, "better" team like Logan and possibly losing makes us better, so be it. I'm sure someone is going to get on here and say where has your success been lately. My only response will be, "When was yours ever?"

I see yet another poster that's upset b/c they can't dominate the Chiefs and win like they thought they were going to. But yes..go ahead and keep repeating the only thing you guys can say about the Chiefs..that's ok..it'll still be a win for the Chiefs in 2 weeks..and then..you and many others will come back on that Friday night and post the above statement that you just made. B/c you'll be bitter that you lost to Logan yet again and that's really the only thing you'll be able to say! And if League Championships didn't matter..why jump ship back to the SEOAL? Then why leave when you realize you can't win one? LOL...If they didn't matter..they would have stayed independent..nice try though!

I'm from Ironton, played for a very successful Ironton team in the early 90's, and still attend Ironton football games. I've been on this site for quite some time but rarely do I post. I can also say that I am a Logan fan (with the Ironton game as the only exception), a Wheelersburg fan, a Coal Grove fan, a Chesapeake fan, a Rock Hill fan and a fan of every team in southern Ohio. The smack talking between Ironton and Logan is entertaining to say the least but to degrade either team is pathetic. Logan has been the class of the SEOAL since we joined back up and may well be the class this year. They have an outstanding quarterback and group of receivers that can give you fits. But this Ironton team is a little different from those you've seen in the past few years. The big difference I see is that these kids want badly to win every week. They play team ball. There are no superstars, just a strong line, a great group of backs and a stifling defense. I look forward to a great game with Ashland before we even start talking about Logan week. Let Logan take care of their business this week and we'll take care of ours. Then we'll talk Ironton/Logan.

[moonshine]

Like I have said b-4, Mark my word, Ironton will run the Table. Take that to the Bank!