SOC2 Wheelersburg (4-2) @ Northwest (2-4)

[4thgoal]

i agree. i would not want to be northwest next friday night. the only thing the burg can do now is try to win out and then get ready for b-ball because they defiantly won't see week 11 after the loss to minford. even at 8-2 they are not gettin enough 2nd level points to make the playoffs

Not so fast. It may take some help, but at #11 after week 6, Burg still has definite playoff possibilities. Burg's remaining opponents are 15-9. There are lots of points out there and the playoffs aren't too far fetched. Also take a look at the teams in 1-10 right now. Most of these teams still have opportunities to lose a game or 2 along the way. Region 19 is very competitive again this year and there will be lots of changes before it is all said and done.

Barnesville - remaining opponents are combined 16-7
Caldwell - remaining opponents are 19-5 (3) 5-1 teams and (1) 4-2
Monroe Central - remaining opponents are 15-9 (2) 5-1, (1) 4-2
Ridgewood - remaining opponents are 15-9 including a 6-0 and 5-1. 3 remaining opponents are also D6 which would result in less points even if they win.
NY - remaining opponents are 15-9 including 6-0 Athens and 4-2 Ironton
Oak Hill - remaining opponents are 11-13 and all are DVI. They should win out, but will likely fall a few spots due to DVI competition with under .500 records
Coal Grove - remaining opponents are 5-19

Basically, Burg should be able to make the playoffs if they win the last 4 games. Of course this is a challenge in the SOCII, but there is still a lot of football to be played. 8-2 should be good enough to get us in the post season.

GO PIRATES!!!

[Mohawk]

I'm going with the Burg in this game.The mohawks staff needs to work together better and come up with some kind of offensive game plan running about 6 different plays a game don't cut it.

Burg-65
NW-7

[burgbball]

Look for some major changes for the Burg this week. If what I have heard is correct then we could possibly even see a new QB. Word is that the XP attempt the Minford game was a Sweep right to Shank and the QB changed the play when he went to the line. If you watch the play you will notice Shank lined up on the right and the QB moved him to the left. If this is the case and I was the coach I believe I would let him have a seat on the bench for a while.

[Mikenmike]

Wouldn't want to be NW this week, gets ugly fast.

[The_Legend_of_Northwest]

Burg has hangover, Still having a hard time realizing their poop stinks and aren't better than everyone else. I like Northwest in the upset.

No way. I'm a Northwest man through and through but until we beat Burg (which hasnt happened in 35 years i believe. correct me if im wrong anybody) i will pick the burg.

Burg 48
NWest 6

[West Side Pride]

Burg may make it in at 8 and 2, they have a good chance. But....are you all that confident
that your going to win out, don't count your chickens

[Mad-Dogg]

Burg has hangover, Still having a hard time realizing their poop stinks and aren't better than everyone else. I like Northwest in the upset.

No way. I'm a Northwest man through and through but until we beat Burg (which hasnt happened in 35 years i believe. correct me if im wrong anybody) i will pick the burg.

Burg 48
NWest 6

I believe the last time the burg lost to northwest was 1970. I have the scores of the games on my old laptop but I am almost 100% positive it was 1970. I know it hasn't been in the post miller era. ed miller came to burg in 1972.

[Burg_Grad_77]

I have lived in Wheelersburg since 1971 and the Pirates have never lost to the Mohawks since then.

[Mad-Dogg]

i got the scores from my old lap top and the burg last lost to the mohawks in 1970. the score was 26-14.

the series started in 1960. the burg won that game 35-12.

Before Ed Miller:

1960: Burg 35 NHS 12
1961: NHS 16 Burg 12
1962: NHS 14 Burg 8
1963: Burg 20 NHS 0
1664: NHS 43 Burg 0
1965: Burg 14 NHS 0
1966: NHS 32 Burg 20
1967: NHS 22 Burg 20
1968: NHS 14 Burg 12
1969: NHS 24 Burg 20
1970: NHS 26 Burg 14
1971: Burg 50 NHS 7

the burg have won 39 straight games against northwest.

a bit off track but the only team that has a losing streak datin back longer than 1970 in valley. they only have two wins agaist the burg. 27-12 in 1962 and 32-0 in 1964. thanks to jesco white for the info on valley. burg has won 25 straight over valley

here is the series record as i have it. i have a different score on the 06 game as posted on burgfan. so if anyone knows what the score was feel free to correct it. also if anyone knows the score of the game in 1988. anyone who knows the score post that one also

Wheelersburg - Northwest all-time series

Before Ed Miller:

1960: Burg 35 NHS 12
1961: NHS 16 Burg 12
1962: NHS 14 Burg 8
1963: Burg 20 NHS 0
1664: NHS 43 Burg 0
1965: Burg 14 NHS 0
1966: NHS 32 Burg 20
1967: NHS 22 Burg 20
1968: NHS 14 Burg 12
1969: NHS 24 Burg 20
1970: NHS 26 Burg 14
1971: Burg 50 NHS 7

After Ed Miller:

1972: Burg 42 NHS 13
1973: Burg 38 NHS 7
1974: Burg 54 NHS 0
1975: Burg 39 NHS 0
1976: Burg 50 NHS 6
1977: Burg 39 NHS 6 N/A
1978: Burg 45 NHS 0 N/A
1979: Burg 58 NHS 0
1980: Burg 44 NHS 0
1981: Burg 36 NHS 25 N/A
1982: Burg 58 NHS 15
1983: Burg 34 NHS 8
1984: Burg 34 NHS 14
1985: Burg 28 NHS 12
1986: Burg 62 NHS 0 N/A
1987: Burg 48 NHS 6 N/A
1988: N/A
1989: Burg 54 NHS 0
1990: Burg 28 NHS 8 N/A
1991: Burg 39 NHS 0
1992: Burg 38 NHS 6 N/A
1993: Burg 49 NHS 16 N/A
1994: Burg 36 NHS 6
1995: Burg 41 NHS 6
1996: Burg 46 NHS 13
1997: Burg 49 NHS 20
1998: Burg 48 NHS 7
1999: Burg 69 NHS 7
2000: Burg 43 NHS 14
2001: Burg 50 NHS 7
2002: Burg 33 NHS 8
2003: Burg 35 NHS 19
2004: Burg 35 NHS 7
2005: Burg 46 NHS 0
2006: Burg 56 NHS 6 (In Question)
2007: Burg 38 NHS 8
2008: Burg 47 NHS 17

[Winchell]

1988- WB-49 NW-6

[4thgoal]

Burg may make it in at 8 and 2, they have a good chance. But....are you all that confident
that your going to win out, don't count your chickens

If you read my post, you will see that I said it would be a challenge in the SOCII.

[TartanPride]

I am going to have to go with the Burg...Northwest is showing improvement and maybe in a couple of years they will compete for the SOC2 championship but not this year
Burg-42
NW-0
Good Luck to Both Teams

[burgbball]

Updated Drew Pasteure's playoff berth predictions

Region 19 Playoff Berth Probabilities
Projected Harbin cut-off 16.11
Oak Hill 99% (8W-14.5-46% 9W-16.4-79% 10W-19.3-99%)
Fredericktown 93% (7W-12.8-2% 8W-14.7-32% 9W-17.3-91% 10W-20.2-99%)
Monroe Central (Woodsfield) 90% (7W-13.9-13% 8W-16.8-83% 9W-19.7-99%)
Liberty Union (Baltimore) 87% (6W-13.5-8% 7W-15.0-39% 8W-16.9-86% 9W-20.2-100%)
Nelsonville-York (Nelsonville) 74% (7W-12.8-5% 8W-16.3-71% 9W-20.3-99% 10W-23.8-100%)
Minford 72% (6W-12.1-1% 7W-14.9-29% 8W-17.8-97% 9W-21.3-100%)
Ridgewood (West Lafayette) 70% (8W-12.8-4% 9W-16.0-63% 10W-19.4-99%)
Wheelersburg 65% (6W-12.7-3% 7W-15.7-53% 8W-19.2-99%)
Caldwell 56% (7W-14.0-13% 8W-16.8-80% 9W-19.8-99%)
Dawson-Bryant (Coal Grove) 56% (7W-13.5-11% 8W-15.3-41% 9W-18.4-95%)
Cardington-Lincoln (Cardington) 8% (8W-13.5-4% 9W-17.0-79%)
Barnesville 8% (6W-12.9-3% 7W-16.2-52% 8W-19.6-100%)
Crooksville 8% (7W-14.8-19% 8W-18.9-98%)
Valley (Lucasville) 6% (7W-12.1-1% 8W-15.5-38% 9W-19.0-99%)
Shenandoah (Sarahsville) 5% (8W-13.3-4% 9W-16.6-83%)
Fort Frye (Beverly) 2% (8W-14.8-23%)
Adena (Frankfort) 2% (7W-14.7-13%)

[Burg_Grad_77]

Wheelersburg 65% (6W-12.7-3% 7W-15.7-53% 8W-19.2-99%)

So the Pirates basically have to win out to get in. 7 wins and 53% probability isn't very good odds, but 8 and 99% are. Even then I think they are on the road in week 11.

[burgbball]

Burg_Grad you are correct if the Burg gets in they probably will now be any higher than #6 that will be a road game. Below is also a seed prediction for region 19 that Drew has posted on his website.

Region 19 Projected Seeds
1) Nelsonville-York (Nelsonville)
2) Fredericktown
3) Monroe Central (Woodsfield)
4) Oak Hill
5) Liberty Union (Baltimore)
6) Minford
7) Ridgewood (West Lafayette)
Wheelersburg

I agree with most of the seeds with the exception on Nelsonville. I do not think that they will be able to knock off Athens and Ironton.

[fanatic23]

Wheelersburg 65% (6W-12.7-3% 7W-15.7-53% 8W-19.2-99%)

So the Pirates basically have to win out to get in. 7 wins and 53% probability isn't very good odds, but 8 and 99% are. Even then I think they are on the road in week 11.

It sounds like if Craigmiles would get the ball more the Burg wouldn't be in this position.

[BULDOG]

Wheelersburg 65% (6W-12.7-3% 7W-15.7-53% 8W-19.2-99%)

So the Pirates basically have to win out to get in. 7 wins and 53% probability isn't very good odds, but 8 and 99% are. Even then I think they are on the road in week 11.

It sounds like if Craigmiles would get the ball more the Burg wouldn't be in this position.

Not saying that Craigmiles does not need more touches but it does take more than one player to win a ball game.

[The Oaf]

Burg is fine, Pirate fans take heart, you guys are going to be just fine. Can you imagine a first round match up at Oak Hill, Minford, or Coal Grove? lol

[fbbacker]

WestFan27 wrote:
"Burg has hangover, Still having a hard time realizing their poop stinks and aren't better than everyone else. I like Northwest in the upset."

I love it when an adult gets on here and bashes a group of HS kids like this. To say that our Burg kids or even the residents of Wheelersburg feel as if we are "Still having a hard time realizing their poop stinks and aren't better than everyone else" just tells me how much you really don't know about our kids and us. The opinions of a few posters on here who call themselves Burg fans and may say some elitist things do not speak for the rest of us. So don't put us all in the same class, especially if you are talking about our kids. If you are primarily talking about our kids, well then, I just feel bad for you, because that is just downright ridiculous for an adult to say that about 16-18 year old kids.

Burg 42, NW 14.

[burgbball]

Here are the official OHSAA computer rankings for region 19

DIVISION V - REGION 19

Place, Average, Level 1, Level 2, City, High School Name, W, L, T, Divisor

1. 10.4333 21.5 68.5 BALTIMORE LIBERTY UNION 5 1 0 100
2. 8.5333 24.5 44.5 FREDERICKTOWN FREDERICKTOWN 6 0 0 100
3. 8.4667 22 48 COAL GROVE DAWSON-BRYANT 5 1 0 100
4. 8.35 24 43.5 OAK HILL OAK HILL 6 0 0 100
5. 8.2667 25 41 NELSONVILLE NELSONVILLE-YORK 6 0 0 100
6. 7.6 16.5 48.5 MINFORD MINFORD 4 2 0 100
7. 7.5 24 35 WEST LAFAYETTE RIDGEWOOD 6 0 0 100
8. 7.3081 19 41 WOODSFIELD MONROE CENTRAL 5 1 0 99
9. 7.0667 19 39 CALDWELL CALDWELL 5 1 0 100
10. 6.6667 17.5 37.5 BARNESVILLE BARNESVILLE 4 2 0 100
11. 6.3667 17.5 34.5 WHEELERSBURG WHEELERSBURG 4 2 0 100
12. 6.0333 20 27 SARAHSVILLE SHENANDOAH 5 1 0 100
13. 5.3667 20.5 19.5 CARDINGTON CARDINGTON-LINCOLN 5 1 0 100
14. 5.0833 21.5 15 LUCASVILLE VALLEY 5 1 0 100
15. 4.9667 17.5 20.5 CROOKSVILLE CROOKSVILLE 4 2 0 100
16. 4.8 12 28 FRANKFORT ADENA 3 3 0 100
17. 4.2667 14.5 18.5 BEVERLY FORT FRYE 4 2 0 100
18. 2.452 3.5 18.5 CHESAPEAKE CHESAPEAKE 1 5 0 99
19. 2.2667 7 11 SUGAR GROVE BERNE UNION 2 4 0 100
20. 2.05 7.5 8 MOUNT GILEAD MOUNT GILEAD 2 4 0 100
21. 2.0333 8 7 GALION NORTHMOR 2 4 0 100
22. 1.95 7.5 7 BAINBRIDGE PAINT VALLEY 2 4 0 100
23. 1.2833 3.5 7 JOHNSTOWN NORTHRIDGE 1 5 0 100
24. 0.9369 3.5 3.5 LORE CITY BUCKEYE TRAIL 1 5 0 99
25. 0.5833 3.5 0 CENTERBURG CENTERBURG 1 5 0 100
25. 0.5833 3.5 0 CHILLICOTHE SOUTHEASTERN 1 5 0 100
27. 0 0 0 BELPRE BELPRE 0 6 0 100
27. 0 0 0 STEWART FEDERAL HOCKING 0 6 0 100
27. 0 0 0 CHILLICOTHE HUNTINGTON 0 6 0 100

Notice Minfords record is 4-2. Word is that they had to forfeit the River Valley game due to the AD not completing paper work.