Wheelersburg (1-2) @ Fairland (1-2)

[fbnut]

I guess I'm just trying to understand something here but hasn't this guy went 9-1 two yrs in a row and got to the second round of the playoffs each year he's been coaching? This is Southern Ohio and you are going to have years where you have a young or average talented class.

What this really is all about Woodward isn't from "The Burg," nor did he play for Ed, so he will never be fully accepted. Tony Lewis was never accepted and he said “See ya,” and went on and won a state championship.

Larry Hall even got a raw deal and was never given his due credit for his success at Wheelersburg.

Really, Tony Lewis was a great coach, won a state championship last year and why he left was exactly b/c of this reason. "They (WHS School board) were totally unprepared for Lewis's resignation and they took the easy way out when they replaced him.”" Well do you blame Lewis when you have a community who acts like this?

Trust me when I say, It's not that Ed and Larry were so great, it's they were ahead of their time with their systems they had in place. Now most all schools have gone to similar systems so now you have a more even playing field.

Heck, when you run the job posting, make sure you put in bold the prerequisites are: "You must have graduated from Wheelersburg, and played for Ed Miller, all others need not apply!"

your coments about lewis and hall are jus not true. Lewis left to go home, nothing would have kept him at the burg. Hall left because he retired from Ohio and went to kentucky to double dip. I have to this day never heard any negative comments about Hall's tenure at the burg. Woodward came in with a very very very talented junior class. Talent wise it doesn't get any better than last yrs team, if you can't win the SOC with those kids your not going to win it.. Minford fans I am sure will disagree but that game last yr should not have been that close, the burg had some horrible play calls in that game. not so much about the games he won but more about the games he has lost and whether based on talent maybe they should have won. I could care less where the next coach is from or where he went to school. All I want is for him to win the games he should win and maybe a few he shouldn't.

[fbnut]

I have a few friends from Wheelersburg. From what they told me their is a movement with the school board to have a new coach next year. The old heads are not happy with the direction of their program. Read a little on burgfan.com and it reiterated what I was told.

Watching the replay of the Portsmouth/Burg game it's very clear that wheelersburg just isn't very talented compared to teams of the past. If Portsmouth doesn't shoot themselves in the foot with undisciplined play the burg is 0-3. Wheelersburg isn't bad, their just an average football team and will probably loose to Valley, Minford, and West. I would say they'll win this week, but if Fairland is heathly and plays with the effort they did in Week 1, they will give burg a game.

I agree avg talent as far as burg goes, they could be 0-3 but they could also be 2-1. They outplayed Ironton and won everywhere but where it counts. The school board and adm is partly to blame. They were totally unprepared for Lewis's resignation and they took the easy way out when they replaced him.

Wrong! School Board Made the Right Choice.

I agree if your minford, west, waverly or valley fans, northwest I won't go that far.

[Westfan]

I thought Lewis was a heck of a coach. Burg fans as a whole never accepted him or gave him the credit that he deserved. He won games he shouldn't have. I said on here that burg would look back and miss what they had in that guy.

I think the comments on the rest of the schools catching up is exactly correct. It isn't the 80's and 90's anymore. Burg didn't loose any soc games for like 10 years because a. they were good but more b. the rest of the league basically sucked. That spoiled burg thinking that they are going to dominate year after year. Other teams have caught up. Some may commit suicide when they loose to West for at least the next 3 games IMO.

[vladimir]

^ So, that's why evertime Lewis would lose a game someone would stick a for sale sign in his yard? Bottom line he was sick of it and when the opportunity presented itself he jumped all over it. Heck, Woodward should have done the same thing when the Gallia job was open last year.

As far as the Halls, so that's why they didn't hire the Andy/ Larry combo and that's why they went to Jackson? It was politics the reason why he left and you know it was as well as I do, it was not to double dip.

[FANOSPORTS]

The Burg by 21

[Red_Dog]

I believe Burg will win this game this week rather easily. The OVC is down this year and Burg just came off of a big win at home. I'll say they win by 3 scores.

[wobycat]

I guess I'm just trying to understand something here but hasn't this guy went 9-1 two yrs in a row and got to the second round of the playoffs each year he's been coaching? This is Southern Ohio and you are going to have years where you have a young or average talented class.

What this really is all about Woodward isn't from "The Burg," nor did he play for Ed, so he will never be fully accepted. Tony Lewis was never accepted and he said “See ya,” and went on and won a state championship.

Larry Hall even got a raw deal and was never given his due credit for his success at Wheelersburg.

Really, Tony Lewis was a great coach, won a state championship last year and why he left was exactly b/c of this reason. "They (WHS School board) were totally unprepared for Lewis's resignation and they took the easy way out when they replaced him.”" Well do you blame Lewis when you have a community who acts like this?

Trust me when I say, It's not that Ed and Larry were so great, it's they were ahead of their time with their systems they had in place. Now most all schools have gone to similar systems so now you have a more even playing field.

Heck, when you run the job posting, make sure you put in bold the prerequisites are: "You must have graduated from Wheelersburg, and played for Ed Miller, all others need not apply!"

your coments about lewis and hall are jus not true. Lewis left to go home, nothing would have kept him at the burg. Hall left because he retired from Ohio and went to kentucky to double dip. I have to this day never heard any negative comments about Hall's tenure at the burg. Woodward came in with a very very very talented junior class. Talent wise it doesn't get any better than last yrs team, if you can't win the SOC with those kids your not going to win it.. Minford fans I am sure will disagree but that game last yr should not have been that close, the burg had some horrible play calls in that game. not so much about the games he won but more about the games he has lost and whether based on talent maybe they should have won. I could care less where the next coach is from or where he went to school. All I want is for him to win the games he should win and maybe a few he shouldn't.

Apparently, you are not aware of the prima donna attitude of last year's class. There was absolutely no chemistry. A lot of talent but a bunch of cry babies. I agree with the play calling at Minford but if those plays were not negative, well, we wouldn't be talking about it.

[Westfan]

It really sucks for Woodward, who seems like a good coach. He probably would have gotten a look for the Gallia job, but didn't thinking he had a job at Burg. Now he has knives stabbing him in the back. He will be well seasoned, and I'm sure he'll get another opportunity.

[FaberGrad62]

The only problem I have with Burg this year is that you have a coach calling the plays that has been on the coaching staff for what, 2 years????


What is up with that? he is not ready yet to be calling the offense

[4dfalcons]

Burg has played three good teams in a row. Burg could end up anywhere from 8-2 to 6-4.

[sider]

Sider is a good poster, he has made some great calls in the last few yrs.

sider...are you originally from West? Someone giving another team credit just isn't a characteristic from someone from West is it? LOL....just kidding. I look for Burg to win by 2 scores or more.

Yes I am a West sider and thanks for the nice remarks, lol...If Burg gets rid of Woodward it would be a bad a choice...I think that he is a good man and a good coach, Whereas I don't agree with his offensive scheme and I think the younger level might be starting to lose some of the structure that it once had (just rumors Ive heard), hes went to the second round of the playoffs two years in a row (Burg would of been regional champs if it werent for a bad break in the end) and has went 19-5 in two years that pretty good...I think the days of burg dominating the Soc are far over, every the Soc is competitive year in and year its a hard league to win.

[forward]

Come on give the Coach's a break.. While Miller and Hall were outstanding coach's are you telling me they never lost a game they should have won? Or they never made a bad call?
Woodward is a great coach and is improving every year, every week for that matter..... I have seen some position changes each game, they are getting the right kids in the right places and will be peaking at the right time. If they stay healthy and keep their head one straight, they could very well win out! You "Burg Faithfull" need to be a little more open minded and try to be positve. You keep up this pissin and moanen you will run off another good coach...... And if you keep convincing the kids how good they are not...... You might be the next Northwest!!

[bilco 2]

Burg just don't the talent they had in the past, they just have to hang in for a few seasons, and it will come back. You can't sack a coach for losing one season. It will take a new coach at least 1 or2 years to turn the program around to winning again.

[footballcrazy]

Burg in Blowout!!!!

[wobycat]

Sider is a good poster, he has made some great calls in the last few yrs.

sider...are you originally from West? Someone giving another team credit just isn't a characteristic from someone from West is it? LOL....just kidding. I look for Burg to win by 2 scores or more.

Yes I am a West sider and thanks for the nice remarks, lol...If Burg gets rid of Woodward it would be a bad a choice...I think that he is a good man and a good coach, Whereas I don't agree with his offensive scheme and I think the younger level might be starting to lose some of the structure that it once had (just rumors Ive heard), hes went to the second round of the playoffs two years in a row (Burg would of been regional champs if it werent for a bad break in the end) and has went 19-5 in two years that pretty good...I think the days of burg dominating the Soc are far over, every the Soc is competitive year in and year its a hard league to win.

How young are you talking?

[BigBlueNation]

This game will not an easy win for the burg...Fairland was hangin right with west in the second quarter 13-8 (they actually were playing a way better ball game) until they had a special teams meltdown that resulted in two blocked kicks(one resulted in a td for west and the other with the ball at the one) that were both the punters fault, and a kick return...if it were not for Fairland beating theirselves it probably would of been a dog fight. I also think Fairland will give the burg fits with their team speed and offensive scheme, so the burg better not overlook fairland, but I have never seen them overlook anyone, so I doubt they will

I agree with SIDER dont over look the DRAGONS they are the most physical team we have played this year they have some good players #4 Fisher the qb is a outstanding athlete they have some big kids #76 is about 6`6 or 7 and about 360 i think. The BURG will win this game but the DRAGONS are not a pushover. Go SOC

[Westfan]

I agree with SIDER dont over look the DRAGONS they are the most physical team we have played this year they have some good players #4 Fisher the qb is a outstanding athlete they have some big kids #76 is about 6`6 or 7 and about 360 i think. The BURG will win this game but the DRAGONS are not a pushover. Go SOC

I think the really big kid #79 hurt his leg. I'm not sure he's back.

[Westfan]

Would somebody from burg tell me why Miller didn't want kids to play football until the 5th grade? And also what did it matter that burg didn't have football until the 5th because alot of kids played at Green through the 4th grade. Know I hear how ticked the old timers are at the Outlaw 3rd and 4th grade team they started, but playing at green is the same thing.

[wobycat]

Would somebody from burg tell me why Miller didn't want kids to play football until the 5th grade? And also what did it matter that burg didn't have football until the 5th because alot of kids played at Green through the 4th grade. Know I hear how ticked the old timers are at the Outlaw 3rd and 4th grade team they started, but playing at green is the same thing.

IMHO it is pointless for kids to play before 5th grade and it might be pointless in 5th and 6th grade. According to the physical education class I took in college, Kids dont even start to master the skills necessary to play football until about the 6th grade.

3/4 grade football is nothing more than parents trying to live through their kids. Football is a physical sport that probably should not be introduced until at least 5th grade. No player can say they are better in the long run by playing that early, you're either good or not.

Some outsiders came in and decided to put together a team called the outlaws. It was a select bunch of boys from the burg and was coached by parents. This is where the trouble began, Wheelersburg likes to make decisions from the top, down.

I could care less if kids wanted to play that early but there were other places to play.

The Burg has the best pee-wee program in the county. This is why Minford re did their pee-wee just like Burg a few years back and they have been successful ever since. In DV football numbers mean everything.

[Westfan]

The Burg has the best pee-wee program in the county. This is why Minford re did their pee-wee just like Burg a few years back and they have been successful ever since. In DV football numbers mean everything.

I know a kid that played there last year. His parents said the opposite. His mother also told me of a few kids that were going to or thinking seriously of going to green to play because they agreed with them.

I talked to a 7th grade parent today that took both of her boys to green this year because she said there is just too much politics at Wheelersburg.

Also I know for a fact that Minford was considering going back to the scioto valley pee-wee league as early as 2 years ago and they inquired again this year when Northwest came back.