Week 5: Marietta (2-2) AT Logan (0-4)

[moonshine]

It time for the head coach to step in and make some change to the defense and maybe the staff.

[SSReaper]

buckeye -

Not sure what you are watching, Logan's crowd was PATHETIC on Friday, fair or no fair. Our kids deserve better. I was very disappointed.

I would like to comment on this. Logan does typically bring in a very large crowd. Logan is all about football. I grew up in Logan and was on the drumline in the band (I know, I know) but my dad played football for Logan back in the 70's. As long as I can remember my dad has ALWAYS gone to the games on friday nites. We used to live within a stone's throw from the hill-top high school before it was torn down and going to the game was just something you did in Logan every friday nite, rain or shine..even freezing in the end of october. My parents, my wife and I, my brother and his wife all hold reserved seats at the new stadium.....I also have a cousin on the team, so there is no question of our loyalty.(I live in Lancaster and have logan stuff all over the outside of my house LOL) My dad and I have seen every game since '96 and my dad since he played. But..this year I have gone to 0 games(Due to work but I listen on the radio) and my dad has gone to 2.What's the point of all this you ask..The point is that people are not going because the kids that are playing don't care if they win or lose. Logan fans still go if the kids are losing but noone wants to go and watch the kids stand around on the field not even trying. Why has the defense let 40+ per game go..because they don't have the heart to pursue tackles..the heart to get up and go and put that extra effort in..THAT'S why Logan fans aren't wasting their time to watch the games..The kids don't care if they are playing or not so why should the fans care? I miss Dale and his motivational skills ( and defensive genius ) more and more every week. Sad Sad times we are in.

[klaw10]

It time for the head coach to step in and make some change to the defense and maybe the staff.

You were the first i figured to start calling out the coaches. Typical. Easy to coach all sports from the stands isn't it. Why don't you just go away. Take a look at Amyx's history......not always rosey. This team lost everything, starting from ground zero with players who have never really had to compete at this level. Fans like you need to go away.

[redrocket]

Sure it has been a rocky start but the wheels have not come off the bus just yet. It is easier to quit when things look bad but it is not the nature of the Chieftains to do so. They just need to go with the basics, one play at a time , one game at a time. They will turn it around and we as fans should do our part to help them along. Go Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!

[camnott]

I don't have a dog in this fight but feel compelled to post after reading some of the other posts on here.
1) I couldn't believe the small turnout from Logan fans fri. I did however talk with a Logan fan that said they had some people not there because they were helping out Athens folks.
2) I didn't see all this quit from the Logan players like a poster talked about.
3) I saw a few brilliant catches from some Logan receivers.
4) I saw a band that was awesome.
All I can say is, stick with your team through thick and thin! The kids giving up every evening for months at a time deserve it!
Good luck the rest of the season.

[lhsfan97]

Could Logan please just start winning some football games. My Gales need all the second level computer points they can get

[loganlocos]

The point is that people are not going because the kids that are playing don't care if they win or lose. Logan fans still go if the kids are losing but noone wants to go and watch the kids stand around on the field not even trying. Why has the defense let 40+ per game go..because they don't have the heart to pursue tackles..the heart to get up and go and put that extra effort in..THAT'S why Logan fans aren't wasting their time to watch the games..The kids don't care if they are playing or not so why should the fans care? I miss Dale and his motivational skills ( and defensive genius ) more and more every week. Sad Sad times we are in.

SSReaper -

I couldn't disagree more. I don't think Logan has any problem with "heart or effort." Kids certainly didn't quit on Friday (when they could easily have done it).

And Logan fans, BEFORE THE SEASON, were asking me "should I even buy my season tickets this year? Are we even going to be any good?"

Logan brought a SAD crowd to Pickerington North, and that was after a GREAT effort against Lancaster. So to blame the kids for the poor fan turn out is a cop out.

The truth is, Logan fans are FAIR WEATHER and SPOILED. That is not to say you and your family are, but as a whole I think it is true.



You have to give the new staff a chance. Logan hasn't had this kind of turnover in coaches AND kids in a LONG LONG LONG time.

Remember, Coach Amyx was 2-8 in his first season. The prior 5 seasons Logan was no worse than 7-3, won 3 SEOAL championships, made the playoffs for the 1st time, and lost only 3 league games. Many people wanted to run Dale out of town after one season.

Heck, is wasn't until his 5th year that Amyx won 7 games in a season and it wasn't until his 9th year that he won 8.

[tl895]

wow how the mighty have fallen unbelievable that logan is 0-4

[dazed&confused]

I think it is despicable to say these kids don't care whether they win or lose. "These kids" worked hard and waited patiently the last few years to get their chance to play. They went through two-a-days, practices after school and off-season conditioning just like the kids did who rolled up the wins before them. They accepted their mission this season with the same expectations all Logan players have down through the years. I never played for Logan nor had any connection to the program other than my son who graduated last year. And I can recite Logan's goals from heart:
1) 10-0
2) Win league
3) State playoffs
4) State Championship

Every year it is the same. Has the team fallen short of those goals (not all so far); yes. Do they have heart? Yes. You only get so many Friday nights on the field and they want to make the best of it like anyone would. To say they "don't care" is awful. How do you know? Are you a player who thinks this? Do you have some special connection to the team that you can state this with some certainty? Or are you a fan who lives vicariously through them and makes this assertion from the seat of your pants. A seat which may or may not be in the stadium on Friday night? Yes, we have been spoiled by the last few years. Who wouldn't? But when you question the heart and character of athletes who sacrifice so much just to be a part of this program, who desire nothing more than a chance to shine on Friday nights before their family and community, well then you need to take a long, hard look in the mirror my friend. Get a life!

[pappy1]

Right on dazed&confused!!!

[loganlocos]

Some great posts here recently.

No doubt Logan HAS to get better, the kids know it, the coaches know it, and the fans want it. I think we'll see improvement.

There are going to be growing pains with any new staff. We have been LUCKY in Logan that we haven't had to deal with this. It is without a doubt a MAJOR reason that Logan has had the success they have had. And the same goes for other SE Ohio powers - schools like Nelsonville-York, Ironton, Wheelersburg, and Portsmouth aren't changing coaches very often, and that consistency leads to victories.

No doubt everyone in Chieftain Nation is disappointed with the 2010 campaign so far, but I doubt ANYONE is more disappointed than these seniors and the coaching staff.

[Chieftain]

I must admit, this season is a complete mystery. Each of the classes that comprise the varsity have had success in the lower grades teams each year. Each class has players that have talent. Size. Speed. Ability. And yet, they are 0-4. And I certainly expected them to lose the first two because of the competition. But the last two games, they have been blown out . Injuries will hurt, but you play anyway. I can't imagine a loss to Marietta. But its very hard to say where this program is right now. Complete mystery.

[ironmen1987]

Fans are definitely a hot and cold bunch. Many of the trash talkers disappear when they have nothing to talk about except for the 'we need a new coach' line. Logan has an awesome all around sports program and always seems to compete regardless of the sport.

[schenk11]

I am disappointed in Logan if the fan turnout is due to the success of the team. I have respected Logan and frankly been a little jealous of the support the team always received, the crowds and the atmosphere Logan brought to the table. I am surprised it has changed so quickly, if it actually has.

[SSReaper]

How do you know? Are you a player who thinks this? Do you have some special connection to the team that you can state this with some certainty? Or are you a fan who lives vicariously through them and makes this assertion from the seat of your pants. A seat which may or may not be in the stadium on Friday night?!

As I stated in my prior post I have family ON THE TEAM. As I'm sure you read the entire post you probably "overlooked" that part. I get all my information directly from my family ON THE TEAM and other kids that he knows that are also on the team. So...yes, I have a special connection to the team. Do I live vicariously through the team...No, they are 0-4 and my life still goes on. I was merely making a statement based upon players on the team that I have spoken to and my family who attends the games. As I also stated my father played for logan and has been involved with football since 1975..do the math..so I'm sure that when he observes the kids giving up on pursuits and only attempting to arm tackle..not laying out and diving for a catch, but only catching it if if falls into thier hands..etc etc I'd say he knows, and my family on the field knows, what they are talking about. As I also stated I haven't been to the games this year because I work..meaning I have a life..do YOU? How many games do YOU go to in a season? I have 50 yd line reserved seats and attended EVERY game rain or shine since '96. So let's talk about who is actually more informed here..You or I? And next time reserve your judgments until you fully read a post and think it through. Thx
(Just because someone states an opinion on forum that you don't agree with doesn't mean it's misinformed or wrong)

[loganlocos]

I am disappointed in Logan if the fan turnout is due to the success of the team. I have respected Logan and frankly been a little jealous of the support the team always received, the crowds and the atmosphere Logan brought to the table. I am surprised it has changed so quickly, if it actually has.

To be fair, our home crowds this year have been outstanding. The Lancaster game was the biggest crowd in school history.

But the traveling crowd has been below our standards IMO, and for games that are pretty easy drives (Pickerington and Jackson).

[3morethan2]

It time for the head coach to step in and make some change to the defense and maybe the staff.

I agree to an extent their 0-4 they need to change something up what there doing now isn't working. Maybe not the staff but some of the personnel on special teams or try some different players out on defense.

[1987chieftains]

It time for the head coach to step in and make some change to the defense and maybe the staff.

did you think of that at L & J's this morning? why don't you support the players and staff through thick & thin?
you probaby where fit to be tied when coach perry came to town then right as pie after the 85 season. when coach perry left in 90 you probably wanted to run dale out of town in the early 90's and then praising him when the conrad brothers played. you are the typical fair weathered fan. you of all ppl should be supporting you school no matter what. you have been in and around this program for how many years?
if you think you could do better the ask ron for an app.

[Auburntgrfan]

Logan has a few leaks in the ship, but after following their program and watching them over the last several years. I believe that the ship is not in any great danger. New coach, new way of doing things ( even though he was on staff, everybody has some differences in how they appraoch things), lots of experience graduating last year. Logan is still Logan and they have to be taken seriously. That being said Marietta has shown improvement even in losses. This should be a whale of a game. SO, I will leave the nautical references behind and say the team that controls the line of scrimmage with the most consistancy will win by ten. IMHO. Good luck to both squads.

[C-Bolt]

I don't believe the players have quit although it is strange they were that close to Lancaster, but why would they not care after putting in all that hard work in the summer and 2 adays just to let it go down the drain,they're trying but the competition has caught up this year,can't be great every year.These players were not as successful in the lower grades as they're predecessors and its showing now,as far as the fans it didn't surprise me last Friday I knew that would be the case,but as Locos said it was shocking to see the crowd at North as big a game as that was early in the season.Logan fans are no different than other schools,everybody wants to see a winner, its like that in most sports,,even the football crazy Ironton fans were getting sparse when they had some down years recently,its happens everywhere not just Logan.As far as fans not coming last year late in the year probably was the blowout effect but one thing to remember when comparing crowds to years past the old Hilltop didn't hold near the people the new complex does so good crowd on the hilltop might look kind of sparse at the new place....