Week 7: (6-0, 1-0) Valley @ (2-4, 0-1) West

[Westfan]

Hasn't West played a nearly identical schedule?

No they haven't. Chillicothe and Minford are both better than anyone Valley has played.

But that wasn't my point anyway.

Yeah. Chillicothe are real world beaters. They have won all of 1 game and that was West. And as far as Minford, we'll get that pleasure in week 10. It is yet to be seen but Coal Grove is probably better than any team West has played except for Minford. The previous opponents on our schedule haven't helped us out or theirselves much. But we haven't had much trouble with anyone yet either. Our biggest problem all year has been ourselves with penalties. We are our own worst enemy and we have yet to play a perfect game. Hopefully we'll start hitting on all cylinders sometime soon. I believe we are still making a few tuneups. Don't really have a feel for this game yet, still too early in the week by IMO Valley will dominate both the O-line and D-line as they have all year. This has really been the strength and the surprise of this Valley team this year.

If Chillicothe has played a local schedule and won one game I would agree with you. But since they've played Hamilton township, big walnut, desales, and others its understandable. We were their cupcake game. Minford is undefeated and Chillicothe has won one game. Chillicothe is a much better football team. Schedules mean everything, hence your Harbin points standing.

[nutronron2012]

Valley must not be any good then since their schedule is so weak. West shouldn't even have to practice this week.

[Westfan]

Valley must not be any good then since their schedule is so weak. West shouldn't even have to practice this week.

not gonna waste my time. Cannot have a logical discussion with people like you.

[Endzone_Warrior]

All schedule stuff aside, I really don't think Darren or his team will over look this West team. West will be out to play spoilier from here on out. Thing is around this area you can go 10-0 and not make the playoffs right...?? Maybe you Valley guys could help me with this one? Schedule is everything, your schools AD just has to know what they are doing.

[Izladoom]

Things like valleys schedual is why I don't like signing long contracts with schools. You never know when schools are going to decline like rock hill and south point. I hope we keep coal grove and Chesapeake. I would like to pick up Jackson and ny or one of the Columbus teams.

[coop]

It's funny how people cant have logical conversations isnt it? I've pointed out NUMEROUS times that when Valley signed with CG, Peake, RH..they were playoff teams...It appeared we were adding a quality non-conference schedule. But since that is something that isnt negative, people dont wanna hear about it. You play chillicothe and lose, what did you gain from that game other than wasted gas? Honestly? Valley gets points for beating a RH, or SP..nothing for losing to a D-3 school.

[fbnut]

It's funny how people cant have logical conversations isnt it? I've pointed out NUMEROUS times that when Valley signed with CG, Peake, RH..they were playoff teams...It appeared we were adding a quality non-conference schedule. But since that is something that isnt negative, people dont wanna hear about it. You play chillicothe and lose, what did you gain from that game other than wasted gas? Honestly? Valley gets points for beating a RH, or SP..nothing for losing to a D-3 school.

so valley only schedules nonconference opponents they no they will beat? All the teams you listed have always been up and down, I am guessing they have a good class come through and their good for a couple yrs, that class graduates and they are down until their next good class comes through. Like I said above there are teams out there that are for the most part are always going to win 7-8-9 ball games and consistanly make the playoffs.

[starbase_318]

No one in this league schedules up (talent wise) except the Pirates and maybe Waverly. Stop kidding yourselves. When your school schedules Ironton, Jackson, GAHS, Athens, Ashland, Johnson Central, etc....come talk to me. Scheduling and beating an SOC 1 school and an SVC team doesn't do it for me. Valley has 6 DIV teams on their schedule and they are the smallest DV team in the league. When the big powers of the SOC II schedule as many DIII teams come talk to me. Until then, continue to play your make believe powerhouse teams and play it off as though you have a tough schedule..

Outside of Chilli, West has played basically the same non conference schedule as Valley, Fairland instead of CG in the OVC.

Minford has played Wellston, Piketon, OH, RH, Portsmouth----------not exactly stepping outside the box playing/competing against CONSITENTLY talented teams.....Wheelersburg carries a stronger nonconference schedule and they are in a smaller division. Waverly's nonconference schedule is a lot tougher than this.

So for all the crap talkers, your doo-doo stinks too!!

[urban buck]

Ironton isnt going to be able to sustain that schedule in the future either.

[N4da'score]

No one in this league schedules up (talent wise) except the Pirates and maybe Waverly. Stop kidding yourselves. When your school schedules Ironton, Jackson, GAHS, Athens, Ashland, Johnson Central, etc....come talk to me. Scheduling and beating an SOC 1 school and an SVC team doesn't do it for me. Valley has 6 DIV teams on their schedule and they are the smallest DV team in the league. When the big powers of the SOC II schedule as many DIII teams come talk to me. Until then, continue to play your make believe powerhouse teams and play it off as though you have a tough schedule..

Outside of Chilli, West has played basically the same non conference schedule as Valley, Fairland instead of CG in the OVC.

Minford has played Wellston, Piketon, OH, RH, Portsmouth----------not exactly stepping outside the box playing/competing against CONSITENTLY talented teams.....Wheelersburg carries a stronger nonconference schedule and they are in a smaller division. Waverly's nonconference schedule is a lot tougher than this.

So for all the crap talkers, your doo-doo stinks too!!

:aaaaa41

[seasick80]

Sometimes you play who you play because you have an open date and think you should play for a chance at points. I dont know if that is why West played Chilli this year but it was worth the chance and they prob gained some good experience learning how to play against a bigger and faster team (in theory). There are a few teams around here that definitley play up with a chance to win everytime they take the field, IMO that is ironton and Wheelersburg. And when I mean up, like Star_base pointed out, its playing the Ashlands (ironton), Johnson Central(ironton, Burg), GAHS (Ironton, Burg), Jackson (ironton, Burg), St Clairsville (Burg) etc.... I wont go on about who Ironton has to play yr in yr out. To say that playing a D4 team from the OVC is up, I dont think it ever was. I would like to know the record of SOC2 vs OVC the last 5 -10 yrs. Prob lopsided. But with gas prices, u know. Why Waverly picked Western i dont know why. OUCH is all I can say. But a few yrs ago Waverly was a D3 school. I like teams that take a chance and play the Chillis, Jacksons, Athens from our SOC2 schools. Shows some Nads and if you win, chances are you will get a few more level 2 points. Case in fact, look at Valley sitting at #6 in reg19 at 6-0 and Burg at #2 at 5-1. Valley has upgraded their sked tho in the last few yrs and I think have done an outstanding job so far with it! I think they should take a step up though, the coaching staff may learn some new tricks. Im sure Ironton would love to play Valley. Alot less travel. Why west doesnt play them again ill never know. Anyway, I think this will be a great game. It will be close if the trenches stay even. One side starts to get a push, watch out.

[SPAMONY]

No one in this league schedules up (talent wise) except the Pirates and maybe Waverly. Stop kidding yourselves. When your school schedules Ironton, Jackson, GAHS, Athens, Ashland, Johnson Central, etc....come talk to me. Scheduling and beating an SOC 1 school and an SVC team doesn't do it for me. Valley has 6 DIV teams on their schedule and they are the smallest DV team in the league. When the big powers of the SOC II schedule as many DIII teams come talk to me. Until then, continue to play your make believe powerhouse teams and play it off as though you have a tough schedule..

Outside of Chilli, West has played basically the same non conference schedule as Valley, Fairland instead of CG in the OVC.

Minford has played Wellston, Piketon, OH, RH, Portsmouth----------not exactly stepping outside the box playing/competing against CONSITENTLY talented teams.....Wheelersburg carries a stronger nonconference schedule and they are in a smaller division. Waverly's nonconference schedule is a lot tougher than this.

So for all the crap talkers, your doo-doo stinks too!!

You might want to go and look at the harbin points Minford has on Joeeitel before you knock their schedule. 2 teams they beat are ranked higher than Valley. they are a lock for the playoffs in week 7! (after northwest). i have agreed with you guys that your schedule is way better than the points and should have gave a lot of points to Valley. But when you try to make yourself look better by putting others down you sound like a whinny little girl and stupid to boot when you wrong! This why Valley gets ZERO Respect on here or anywhere cause people start crying " we are the little guys" when things go Bad. But when they go good you compare your program to BURGS. well which is it???? Do you have a great program that will overcome a crappy schedule and make a run like a program? or just just point out everyone elses faults to make yourself look better cause your the "wittle guys"??

You are the defe3nding SOC II CHAMPS!!!

ACT LIKE IT!!!!!!!

[sider]

Out of the rest of Wests Soc opponents, Valley matches up the best. They run the football straight at you (more or less) and we are good at stopping the run. However, we must move the ball and we have not done that against Valley very well in the past

[nutronron2012]

Oak Hill is really helping Minford out with points. I think that is a surprise after the season Oak Hill had last year. Its just about what team will be up in what year. Its really just the luck of the draw what you get with these teams in any given year. Minford has a really fine team as well as Burg and Valley. Looks like the SOC 2 is saving the best for last. Will be an interesting and exciting end to the season.
I did some math with these computer points and a little wishful thinking (as far as Valley going 10-0). But if Valley goes 10-0 and the teams beat who they should beat or who i think they will, Valley will finish with 20.1586 Harbin points. That is alot lower then they finished last year (23.2000), but i think that will be good enough for a home game looking at the other teams in R19 and the schedules of these other teams. Not saying Valley will go 10-0. Just looking at the possible best scenario if they do. 4 more games to go and see where the peices fall.

[Westfan]

Spamony is right. This site was good until Valley had that team last year. Now every fan in Lucasville with a computer gets on here chest thumping all year, while crying when others don't view valley in the same light.

As for the schedule its true. For whatever reason. Your defense doesn't get tested during the season. Valley should have won the region last year. But you had a huge lead, scored 48 points and lost to the same team that scored 14 on West the week before. That shouldn't happen.

[Gridiron-wr]

Valley 41 West 13

[Westfan]

Out of the rest of Wests Soc opponents, Valley matches up the best. They run the football straight at you (more or less) and we are good at stopping the run. However, we must move the ball and we have not done that against Valley very well in the past

West can play with any team in this league if they just stop killing drives with mistakes. How many times this year have we been in the red zone, only to fumble or get a costly penalty? Most of that is youth, but its time to step up. Game 7, sophomores are juniors and juniors are seniors.

As you said, defensively we are fine. If our safeties would quit getting caught staring in the backfield teams would have a hard time scoring. I wish the would back the free safety back about 10 to 12 yards instead of 8. They are quick enough to still help with the run. But 8 yards they can't help the corners and they don't recognize tight ends releasing, which Chillicothe and minford burned us on.

[YOU'RE TIGER BAIT]

i would not want to bet against west, and my ole buddy coach triplett. but it seems as though they are struggling getting things ironed out.i'd have to see valley taking this one. if the indians can get by wheelersburg, i see them running the table.

[Bo_Diaz]

Spamony is right. This site was good until Valley had that team last year. Now every fan in Lucasville with a computer gets on here chest thumping all year, while crying when others don't view valley in the same light.

As for the schedule its true. For whatever reason. Your defense doesn't get tested during the season. Valley should have won the region last year. But you had a huge lead, scored 48 points and lost to the same team that scored 14 on West the week before. That shouldn't happen.

Chest thumping? Honestly?!?! From a West Side poster... You wanna talk about chest thumping?!?!

Is the sting of losing to Valley 4 of the last 5 years getting to ya? Is the fact that before every season (even this one) West posters come on here and talk about ,"how tough" they are and "how hard they've worked in the weightroom" and how "West is too physical for spread teams like Valley" while not being able to see it happen, starting to get to ya?

There's been a few chest thumpers, but at least Valley had the right to thump chest... West pounds on theirs regardless of how good they play and they declare themselves favorites every year.

And you're right, teams like West don't test Valley's defense with their "2 tight T" stuff... But West who plays 8 common opponents, has a tested D! Lmao!

I'm glad that "Valley posters" have ruined this site for you... I hope they make it as miserable to read as what West posters do for everyone else!

[here4fun]

Spamony is right. This site was good until Valley had that team last year. Now every fan in Lucasville with a computer gets on here chest thumping all year, while crying when others don't view valley in the same light.

As for the schedule its true. For whatever reason. Your defense doesn't get tested during the season. Valley should have won the region last year. But you had a huge lead, scored 48 points and lost to the same team that scored 14 on West the week before. That shouldn't happen.

"This site was good until Valley had that team last year."And how many years in a row has Valley beat west ? So what gives you the right to say that ? and at least last year Valley made it to the region...!!!!!