Should OHIO Have a Two Week Spring Football

[93Bulldog]

To everyone getting bent out of shape over it taking away from track/baseball my question is, why is football the only evil? Why is it ok for basketball to run summer camps when that's a time to prepare for football? What about baseball "hit leagues" in the winter? During basketball. Or indoor track in the winter? Summer baseball etc.

You are allowed to work with up to four football players anytime of the year, 365 days a year. Mots of the things you mentioned above are similar - small groups, instructional sessions. Only summer basketball camps are different, but they are completely optional and take place BEFORE summer football can begin (most of them anyways.)

Also, how many football players utilize the weight room and light weights year around? Most of the players who are not playing other sports do eat, drink, sleep football 365 days a year.

If you break down the length of each high school sport, football seems to be by far the longest already. Kids are getting ready for the season around the end of July - and way before that with SEVEN-ON-SEVENS (which nobody has mentioned yet). Seeing as I just went to the state championship games last weekend - that's about SIX months of high school football. Hoops season started the first of December, and the first tournament game is Feb. 15th. Baseball season - even shorter.

[Tigercannon71]

To everyone getting bent out of shape over it taking away from track/baseball my question is, why is football the only evil? Why is it ok for basketball to run summer camps when that's a time to prepare for football? What about baseball "hit leagues" in the winter? During basketball. Or indoor track in the winter? Summer baseball etc.

Thats the thing right there no one cares if you are taking away from football, but holy crap dont touch basketball or baseball. In some schools you get administrators in that cant wait to tear down successful football programs because they have jealousy or hate towards football. I think a 2 week spring ball where you run shorts and helmets and run some plays and do some conditioning would be a great idea. The guys that are playing other sports can come when they can and if they aren't playing other sports they have to be there. Thats another thing all these kids want to "specialize" in one sport you need to play a variety of sports in order to show off you ability to do other things. Coaches love when players play other sports. Now days parents are all into this specializing and stuff they do summer basketball, AAU basketball, high school ball, and whatever else they do and it burns them out. That why in some schools you see a drop off in participation. All these leagues start at earlier and earlier ages and kids play basketball year round, baseball year round, and football and they get burned out. So they quit so now you got 3 or 5 guys in high school walking the halls that could be your best atheletes, but they quit sports because they are burned out. Sorry about the rant, but yes I would support a 2 week spring ball camp just to run plays and condition the players.

[93Bulldog]

Isnt what you speak of already exist? Its called 7 on 7's.

[Stan_Marsh]

To everyone getting bent out of shape over it taking away from track/baseball my question is, why is football the only evil? Why is it ok for basketball to run summer camps when that's a time to prepare for football? What about baseball "hit leagues" in the winter? During basketball. Or indoor track in the winter? Summer baseball etc.

Thats the thing right there no one cares if you are taking away from football, but holy crap dont touch basketball or baseball. In some schools you get administrators in that cant wait to tear down successful football programs because they have jealousy or hate towards football. I think a 2 week spring ball where you run shorts and helmets and run some plays and do some conditioning would be a great idea. The guys that are playing other sports can come when they can and if they aren't playing other sports they have to be there. Thats another thing all these kids want to "specialize" in one sport you need to play a variety of sports in order to show off you ability to do other things. Coaches love when players play other sports. Now days parents are all into this specializing and stuff they do summer basketball, AAU basketball, high school ball, and whatever else they do and it burns them out. That why in some schools you see a drop off in participation. All these leagues start at earlier and earlier ages and kids play basketball year round, baseball year round, and football and they get burned out. So they quit so now you got 3 or 5 guys in high school walking the halls that could be your best atheletes, but they quit sports because they are burned out. Sorry about the rant, but yes I would support a 2 week spring ball camp just to run plays and condition the players.

I'm glad I am not the only one that notices that. Funny thing is, football is their money maker. Don't tear down the program that pays for your new basketball and volleyball jerseys

[moonshine]

How about 6 practices over a 2 week period, non contact with instruction in the basic's and intro to Offence, Defense and Special Teams!

[Raiderball]

To everyone getting bent out of shape over it taking away from track/baseball my question is, why is football the only evil? Why is it ok for basketball to run summer camps when that's a time to prepare for football? What about baseball "hit leagues" in the winter? During basketball. Or indoor track in the winter? Summer baseball etc.

Thats the thing right there no one cares if you are taking away from football, but holy crap dont touch basketball or baseball. In some schools you get administrators in that cant wait to tear down successful football programs because they have jealousy or hate towards football. I think a 2 week spring ball where you run shorts and helmets and run some plays and do some conditioning would be a great idea. The guys that are playing other sports can come when they can and if they aren't playing other sports they have to be there. Thats another thing all these kids want to "specialize" in one sport you need to play a variety of sports in order to show off you ability to do other things. Coaches love when players play other sports. Now days parents are all into this specializing and stuff they do summer basketball, AAU basketball, high school ball, and whatever else they do and it burns them out. That why in some schools you see a drop off in participation. All these leagues start at earlier and earlier ages and kids play basketball year round, baseball year round, and football and they get burned out. So they quit so now you got 3 or 5 guys in high school walking the halls that could be your best atheletes, but they quit sports because they are burned out. Sorry about the rant, but yes I would support a 2 week spring ball camp just to run plays and condition the players.

I'm glad I am not the only one that notices that. Funny thing is, football is their money maker. Don't tear down the program that pays for your new basketball and volleyball jerseys

Pretty sure basketball pays for itself.

[Tigercannon71]

It might pay for itself, but when you are buying new uniforms every 2 years and are buying new pieces of workout equipment only the basketball team can use, but you need a little extra money the first place that gets money taken from it is football because it's the main moneymaker.

[Orange and Brown]

It might pay for itself, but when you are buying new uniforms every 2 years and are buying new pieces of workout equipment only the basketball team can use, but you need a little extra money the first place that gets money taken from it is football because it's the main moneymaker.

So we should have spring football because football makes money????

Hell, let's just cancel all the other sports and play football year round!

[LHS 72]

Thats the thing right there no one cares if you are taking away from football, but holy crap dont touch basketball or baseball. In some schools you get administrators in that cant wait to tear down successful football programs because they have jealousy or hate towards football. I think a 2 week spring ball where you run shorts and helmets and run some plays and do some conditioning would be a great idea. The guys that are playing other sports can come when they can and if they aren't playing other sports they have to be there. Thats another thing all these kids want to "specialize" in one sport you need to play a variety of sports in order to show off you ability to do other things. Coaches love when players play other sports. Now days parents are all into this specializing and stuff they do summer basketball, AAU basketball, high school ball, and whatever else they do and it burns them out. That why in some schools you see a drop off in participation. All these leagues start at earlier and earlier ages and kids play basketball year round, baseball year round, and football and they get burned out. So they quit so now you got 3 or 5 guys in high school walking the halls that could be your best atheletes, but they quit sports because they are burned out. Sorry about the rant, but yes I would support a 2 week spring ball camp just to run plays and condition the players.

I'm glad I am not the only one that notices that. Funny thing is, football is their money maker. Don't tear down the program that pays for your new basketball and volleyball jerseys

Pretty sure basketball pays for itself.

Most schools Basketball is a just above break even sport. That is if your team is winning! Football funds all minor boy's and girl's sports!

[Tigercannon71]

It might pay for itself, but when you are buying new uniforms every 2 years and are buying new pieces of workout equipment only the basketball team can use, but you need a little extra money the first place that gets money taken from it is football because it's the main moneymaker.

So we should have spring football because football makes money????

Hell, let's just cancel all the other sports and play football year round!

If you would read I'm commenting on the poster above me that commented that he's pretty sure basketball pays for itself. I just said football is the main moneymaker and when other sports need money they take from the football money. You're putting in stuff that was never there.

[Stan_Marsh]

It might pay for itself, but when you are buying new uniforms every 2 years and are buying new pieces of workout equipment only the basketball team can use, but you need a little extra money the first place that gets money taken from it is football because it's the main moneymaker.

So we should have spring football because football makes money????

Hell, let's just cancel all the other sports and play football year round!

Not what I was getting at. Originally I had expressed that football is criticized when the will to work during other sports as expressed despite the fact that it is ok for other sports to work year round, it was later acknowledged that that is unfortunately how it usually goes due to a jealous administrator etc etc than I commented how ironic that is since football brings in the majority of the money. However if what and another posted stated is going to be twisted and turned into something it's not, let's play a game: how about every sport fend for itself when it comes to $$$$ and see which one doesn't have to cancel there season.

[Orange and Brown]

It might pay for itself, but when you are buying new uniforms every 2 years and are buying new pieces of workout equipment only the basketball team can use, but you need a little extra money the first place that gets money taken from it is football because it's the main moneymaker.

So we should have spring football because football makes money????

Hell, let's just cancel all the other sports and play football year round!

Not what I was getting at. Originally I had expressed that football is criticized when the will to work during other sports as expressed despite the fact that it is ok for other sports to work year round, it was later acknowledged that that is unfortunately how it usually goes due to a jealous administrator etc etc than I commented how ironic that is since football brings in the majority of the money. However if what and another posted stated is going to be twisted and turned into something it's not, let's play a game: how about every sport fend for itself when it comes to $$$$ and see which one doesn't have to cancel there season.

Lets start with this.....
The idea that football "makes money" is ridiculous. Flip those lights on for a few hours then take a look at the electric bill.
Yes football brings in the largest gates (for most schools) but it's not "supperting" all the other sports.
Most schools replace uniforms with raised or donated booster money.
Go check out a few games at some city schools where the stands are almost empty.

These aren't universities we are talking about.

[moonshine]

Good argument's! Some one needs to get ahold of a few schools athletic budgets and find out the true numbers. And yes they are public records!

[Orange and Brown]

Good argument's! Some one needs to get ahold of a few schools athletic budgets and find out the true numbers. And yes they are public records!

I think one could contact their local school board about filing an aspen records request for it.

[Raiderball]

and my previous post was in response to the comment about.... not tearing down the sport/program that pays for your new basketball and volleyball jerseys.

[moonshine]

This needs to be pushed at the next OHSAA board meeting!

[LHS 72]

ttt

[Paladin]

There was a time I would have said yes to spring football. Florida has it and it makes a big difference in player developement. Yet it is mainly for the best athletes , helping them with an edge. For all other players, it doesn't make much difference as other sports ( baseball, track, etc.) helps make them better athletes overall. Florida also has great weather and frankly, northern states need to rethink this.

I have a grandson who is a pretty good football player as a Soph. and will be a star. Yet while giving up basketball this year to lift and working on speed training, I'd hate to see him give up the spring as he is a track star as well ( hurdles, PV, LJ ) as that helps with your overall athletic developement . Spring football with bad Ohio weather wouldn't do much in my opinion. Summer camps help and he attends those. Seeing that it would do little for most Ohio players, I say to play other sports and pass on Spring football. If we had warm weather I might change my mind on a limited program.