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FANOSPORTS wrote:
Orange and Brown wrote:Fanocrap, The TVC just sent 11 wrestlers to the State Tourny!

BTW......Your favorite league (SEOAL) is about to go by by....... Tick tick tick.......
Ah, not so fast my friend. The SEOAL has 5 wrestlers going in DI and DII. Logan (DI) 1, Marietta (DII) 1, Warren (DII) 1, Gallipolis (DII) 2
(Question: have any of the 11 faced any of the 5 this year, if they're in the same weight class of course ?)

Note: Athens won the TVC league team title and qualified only two wrestlers for state in DII. That shows a big difference there between DII and DIII as far as state qualifying goes IMO.
The 6 kids that NY are sending to state have faced some of the best wrestlers in ohio and WVa.....I am sorry once again that the poor lowly TVC just isn't good enough for you....We sent 11 kids to state and you belittle that by pointing out that the Mighty SEOAL's schools are bigger.
I'll take any of the TVC wrestlers over the kids who are going to state fromthe SEoal anyday!
Athens won the Team title because they filled out all 14 weight classes. Ny has 10 weight classes, 6 of those 10 are wrestling for state titles.
Athens was in a tough sect, and disttrict.......
I'm gonna remind you that one of the best wrestling programs in the STATE is in the TVC


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Orange and Brown wrote:
FANOSPORTS wrote:
Orange and Brown wrote:Fanocrap, The TVC just sent 11 wrestlers to the State Tourny!

BTW......Your favorite league (SEOAL) is about to go by by....... Tick tick tick.......
Ah, not so fast my friend. The SEOAL has 5 wrestlers going in DI and DII. Logan (DI) 1, Marietta (DII) 1, Warren (DII) 1, Gallipolis (DII) 2
(Question: have any of the 11 faced any of the 5 this year, if they're in the same weight class of course ?)

Note: Athens won the TVC league team title and qualified only two wrestlers for state in DII. That shows a big difference there between DII and DIII as far as state qualifying goes IMO.
The 6 kids that NY are sending to state have faced some of the best wrestlers in ohio and WVa.....I am sorry once again that the poor lowly TVC just isn't good enough for you....We sent 11 kids to state and you belittle that by pointing out that the Mighty SEOAL's schools are bigger.
I'll take any of the TVC wrestlers over the kids who are going to state fromthe SEoal anyday!
Athens won the Team title because they filled out all 14 weight classes. Ny has 10 weight classes, 6 of those 10 are wrestling for state titles.
Athens was in a tough sect, and disttrict.......
I'm gonna remind you that one of the best wrestling programs in the STATE is in the TVC
You're right about Athens being in a tough district, St. Paris Graham (look them up) is one of the top 2 or 3 programs in the state every year regardless of division. By the way, even though they are a "public" school, they have "move in's" yearly for their wrestling program. It's a shame but that's the way a lot of schools operate and the OHSAA turns a blind eye to it just like they do on a bunch of other things.


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I wonder if the Bucks will stick with the 4-4 again this year or move back to a 50?...Personally I don't mind the 4-4 but I would have liked NY to use the 50 a little more. They switched to the 50 against BU and it was all over for the Rockets O that night.


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Orange and Brown wrote:I wonder if the Bucks will stick with the 4-4 again this year or move back to a 50?...Personally I don't mind the 4-4 but I would have liked NY to use the 50 a little more. They switched to the 50 against BU and it was all over for the Rockets O that night.
You can use the 50 against any of the teams that run a lot which is predominant in the TVC in most years as long as the dt's contain the inside gap because the nose guard is usually caught up in the middle somewhere. If not, you've only got two linebackers between the line of scrimmage and a td a lot of times. Another problem with that is if you've got teams (I saw Wellston and Athens do it last year) that throw a lot of swing, screen or dump passes to the running backs then you have to make sure your linebackers can get there to help if and when the defensive ends get sucked inside (this happened to Wahama in the state title game last year). N-Y usually has all the catch up speed it needs to do this in conference. The 40 series defenses are good if you've got a lot of quickness in your d-line to put pressure on and negate a passing team and also have the quickness in your linebackers to get up in the hole at the same time to stop the quick hitters and traps along with helping the safeties and corners cover the passing lanes. That's just my opinion.


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FANOSPORTS wrote:
Ah, not so fast my friend. The SEOAL has 5 wrestlers going in DI and DII. Logan (DI) 1, Marietta (DII) 1, Warren (DII) 1, Gallipolis (DII) 2
(Question: have any of the 11 faced any of the 5 this year, if they're in the same weight class of course ?)

Note: Athens won the TVC league team title and qualified only two wrestlers for state in DII. That shows a big difference there between DII and DIII as far as state qualifying goes IMO.
Fanosports....You seem to know very little about wrestling. The NY wrestlers and Athens SQ wrestlers have wrestled most of the teams in the SEOAL and as far as I know ...Won every match. The TVC talent level is at another level.
BTW ask Monroeville which Division has the best wrestlers. I know its not D1.... D2 and 3 have the most nationally ranked wrestlers.


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nybucks70-80 wrote:
FANOSPORTS wrote:
Ah, not so fast my friend. The SEOAL has 5 wrestlers going in DI and DII. Logan (DI) 1, Marietta (DII) 1, Warren (DII) 1, Gallipolis (DII) 2
(Question: have any of the 11 faced any of the 5 this year, if they're in the same weight class of course ?)

Note: Athens won the TVC league team title and qualified only two wrestlers for state in DII. That shows a big difference there between DII and DIII as far as state qualifying goes IMO.
Fanosports....You seem to know very little about wrestling. The NY wrestlers and Athens SQ wrestlers have wrestled most of the teams in the SEOAL and as far as I know ...Won every match. The TVC talent level is at another level.
BTW ask Monroeville which Division has the best wrestlers. I know its not D1.... D2 and 3 have the most nationally ranked wrestlers.
Duh, when you have 3 divisions that are split up equally (# of schools) you then have 66.67% of the total teams in the state in DII and DIII. Your analogy should be correct based on sheer numbers alone. As for my question above, have any of the 11 individual (not team) TVC qualifier's wrestled and beat any of the SEOAL qualifiers stated above - Logan, Marietta, Warren or the 2 from Gallipolis ? That was my question.

Note: BTW, I think St. Paris Graham would gladly schedule a dual match with N-Y anytime in the near future if they would just ask.


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Yes - as I stated As far as I know the TVC kids won them all.
130-NY-Leitwein over GA- Watts 13-3
160-NY - Mays over Mar- Hasley
189-Bel-Wiggers over Log- Bluhm
FANOSPORTS wrote:
Note: BTW, I think St. Paris Graham would gladly schedule a dual match with N-Y anytime in the near future if they would just ask.
Now I see why O&B calls you fanocrap.

Lets set up an allstar meet. TVC vs. SEOAL. The final would not be close.
103- SEOAL
112- TVC
119-TVC
125-?
130-TVC
135-TVC
140-TVC
152-TVC
160-TVC
171-SEOAL
189-TVC
215- TVC
285-?
TVC 9 wins - SEOAL 2 wins. And 2 wts. are a toss up.


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nybucks70-80 wrote:Yes - as I stated As far as I know the TVC kids won them all.
130-NY-Leitwein over GA- Watts 13-3
160-NY - Mays over Mar- Hasley
189-Bel-Wiggers over Log- Bluhm
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Note: BTW, I think St. Paris Graham would gladly schedule a dual match with N-Y anytime in the near future if they would just ask.
Now I see why O&B calls you fanocrap.

Lets set up an allstar meet. TVC vs. SEOAL. The final would not be close.
103- SEOAL
112- TVC
119-TVC
125-?
130-TVC
135-TVC
140-TVC
152-TVC
160-TVC
171-SEOAL
189-TVC
215- TVC
285-?
TVC 9 wins - SEOAL 2 wins. And 2 wts. are a toss up.
Hey, no offense taken. Congrats to Leitwein, Mays and Wiggers and to the TVC. That was my original question and I got it answered, Thanks.


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LOL. Not even close. We wrestled the SEOAL a couple times. And it was enjoyable that is all I have to say about that. We would wrestle Graham without question Nelsonville-York wrestled Parkersburg South, Brecksville Holiday tournament, State Duals and at Marion Tournament. So don't act like we run from people.


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SOUNDS LIKE NY SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE SEOAL......LOL....THAT WAY AT LEAST THEY COULD HAVE COMPLETELY DOMINATED THE LEAGUE...LOL


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NYBuckeye96 wrote:NY has only played one game against a WV school in school history - 1993 - in Week 10, NY traveled to Magnolia, WV.
do you know a score on that by any chance?


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Actually we played Magnolia at home and lost, I believe 10-3. It was 1993 which was Meades first year at NY.


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We wrestled Wahama and that was not even fun. The boys enjoyed the mustaches more than the wrestling. lol One kid from Wahama the stud just flat out quit and did not finish the league meet. Oh well they sport a nice stach.


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Tric118 wrote:We wrestled Wahama and that was not even fun. The boys enjoyed the mustaches more than the wrestling. lol One kid from Wahama the stud just flat out quit and did not finish the league meet. Oh well they sport a nice stach.
Wahama did away with their wrestling program for about 20 years and just brought it back a few years ago. A lot of the younger kids are wrestling in the youth league that Point Pleasant has so they'll get better (Pt. Pleasant has won the "A/AA" WV state championships the last two years 2010/2011).


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Yes, we lost to Magnolia in Week 10. I don't have my master list of scores in front of me at the moment, but the final score was either 10-3 or 10-0. NY went 8-2 that year with the two losses coming against Logan and Magnolia [Magnolia was WV State Runner Up in their class the previous year if I remember right]. I think NY finished 5th in D4, R15 that year and just missed the placeoffs by the skin of their teeth.


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FANOSPORTS wrote:
BIGHITSINC wrote:So FANOCRAP, Just how good, or should I say bad, will Groveport Madison be this year?
With your continued support I would say they will be just as successful as they have been in recent years. :oops: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, let's put it this way. Our district for the last few years is getting too many "transient" families moving in and out and it's starting to hurt athletics (especially with us being DI) and academics here big time. The town of Groveport drew up paperwork a couple years ago trying to split the school district which would have created two separate high schools (Groveport and Madison Township) but the state shot that idea down because of tax dollars. That happens in and around cities much more than it does in a stable community such as yours. With that being said me and a few of my buddies coached a lot of jr. leagues (football) in the district for a lot of years and a lot of the kids we coached were on the last playoff team Groveport had three years ago which was the first one they'd had in 20 years and most of them changed the attitude to a winning one over the last 5 years or so along with Coach Brown who came from Cameron, WV a few years back. We also coached Eric Smith (starting safety, NY Jets) and D.J. (Daniel) Cain who later quarterbacked Williamsport Westfall in a couple of playoff years while he was in high school. We've been edged out of the playoffs the last two years by slides in games 9 and 10 and not making excuses, but this OCC is flat out a bear to win in, unlike the TVC. The biggest difference in and around C-Bus is that the schools that have a lot of money (not G-M) can pretty much do what they want. Hilliard Davidson's coach Brian White (2 state championships) was here at Groveport after he left DeSales as an assistant but we couldn't afford to keep him. Steve Hale (playoff appearances) is at Olentangy and we couldn't afford to keep him years ago. We do as well as we can with the hand dealt against us. I think we do a pretty good job when you look at everything but socio-economics is what holds our district back. Flat out, we can't keep up with the Dublin's, Hilliard's and Upper Arlington's of the world but we give it a hell of a try. We've had some very good individual athletes over the years (Calvin Booth-nba, Eric Smith-nfl, LeVeon Bell-current Michigan St. running back, Lilia Osterloh-pro tennis) and a lot of other college athletes at different levels but in the OCC it takes a heck of a team to win consistently at the DI level with a lack of resources.
SO WHAT NOW...Making excuses.Not hard 2 win in urban city area where you have 3-4 high schools on the same street.


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NY BUCKS wrote:
FANOSPORTS wrote:
BIGHITSINC wrote:So FANOCRAP, Just how good, or should I say bad, will Groveport Madison be this year?
With your continued support I would say they will be just as successful as they have been in recent years. :oops: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, let's put it this way. Our district for the last few years is getting too many "transient" families moving in and out and it's starting to hurt athletics (especially with us being DI) and academics here big time. The town of Groveport drew up paperwork a couple years ago trying to split the school district which would have created two separate high schools (Groveport and Madison Township) but the state shot that idea down because of tax dollars. That happens in and around cities much more than it does in a stable community such as yours. With that being said me and a few of my buddies coached a lot of jr. leagues (football) in the district for a lot of years and a lot of the kids we coached were on the last playoff team Groveport had three years ago which was the first one they'd had in 20 years and most of them changed the attitude to a winning one over the last 5 years or so along with Coach Brown who came from Cameron, WV a few years back. We also coached Eric Smith (starting safety, NY Jets) and D.J. (Daniel) Cain who later quarterbacked Williamsport Westfall in a couple of playoff years while he was in high school. We've been edged out of the playoffs the last two years by slides in games 9 and 10 and not making excuses, but this OCC is flat out a bear to win in, unlike the TVC. The biggest difference in and around C-Bus is that the schools that have a lot of money (not G-M) can pretty much do what they want. Hilliard Davidson's coach Brian White (2 state championships) was here at Groveport after he left DeSales as an assistant but we couldn't afford to keep him. Steve Hale (playoff appearances) is at Olentangy and we couldn't afford to keep him years ago. We do as well as we can with the hand dealt against us. I think we do a pretty good job when you look at everything but socio-economics is what holds our district back. Flat out, we can't keep up with the Dublin's, Hilliard's and Upper Arlington's of the world but we give it a hell of a try. We've had some very good individual athletes over the years (Calvin Booth-nba, Eric Smith-nfl, LeVeon Bell-current Michigan St. running back, Lilia Osterloh-pro tennis) and a lot of other college athletes at different levels but in the OCC it takes a heck of a team to win consistently at the DI level with a lack of resources.
SO WHAT NOW...Making excuses.Not hard 2 win in urban city area where you have 3-4 high schools on the same street.
I'm not making excuses -"3-4 high schools", you'd better re-examine that. The same street you're talking about that we're on (Hamilton Rd, Rt. 665) is 30 miles long. (Grove City, Grove City Christian, Hamilton Twp, Canal Winchester, Groveport-Madison, Bishop Hartley, Columbus Eastmoor, Columbus Walnut Ridge, Columbus Independence, Harvest Prep, Whitehall, Reynoldsburg, Gahanna, Columbus Academy, Columbus Mifflin, Columbus Northland, Columbus Beechcroft and Westerville South -that's 18 high schools and I could've missed a couple- all intersect around this ONE ROAD alone. Say what you want, it ain't no joke up here.


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Not a big fanobuchtel_ville are we......LOL


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boilermaker wrote:Not a big fanobuchtel_ville are we......LOL
I think the Rockets can take'em next year. :aaaaa41


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