Portsmouth West Football 2014

[High Plains Drifter]

Sorry sider didn't mean to jump in after you it was for the circus ahead.

[Westfan]

Ok, let's bring it back before we to start a thread.

The new coach ran the "I" at liberty union. Do you think we have a good enough fullback and tailback to do this?

We have some good backs. Whether we have a workhorse 20 plus carry back I'm not sure. A name to remember is Wesley Robinson. If he puts in the work he could be that type of back if not this year the next two.

With the lack of size up front, can we consistently get a push against the better teams. We are gonna have to be balanced and probably spread teams out some to be successful.

[sider]

Sorry sider didn't mean to jump in after you it was for the circus ahead.

No offense taken, I agree we have gotten off topic many times. I would like to keep this thread established. Its an annoyance to start a new thread every week.

Ok, let's bring it back before we to start a thread.

The new coach ran the "I" at liberty union. Do you think we have a good enough fullback and tailback to do this?

We have some good backs. Whether we have a workhorse 20 plus carry back I'm not sure. A name to remember is Wesley Robinson. If he puts in the work he could be that type of back if not this year the next two.

With the lack of size up front, can we consistently get a push against the better teams. We are gonna have to be balanced and probably spread teams out some to be successful.

I agree with that. As a coach, you have teach what you know. But, you should also strive to keep up with new schemes and changes.

The spread isn't the answer to every question in football. However, if you have small athletes (as we do currently), it could be benefical. Since Coach Johnson came from a school similar to West, I believe he'll know what to do with our athletes. Its just fun to spectulate.

[sider]

Ok, let's bring it back before we to start a thread.

The new coach ran the "I" at liberty union. Do you think we have a good enough fullback and tailback to do this?

We have some good backs. Whether we have a workhorse 20 plus carry back I'm not sure. A name to remember is Wesley Robinson. If he puts in the work he could be that type of back if not this year the next two.

With the lack of size up front, can we consistently get a push against the better teams. We are gonna have to be balanced and probably spread teams out some to be successful.

I hear a lot of talk about this incoming freshman group. How do they stack up to the great teams in recent memory? Do they have a chance to be as successful as the 02 or 08 group? Could they be the next West team to make a playoff run and/or win a gold football?

[Westfan]

I hear a lot of talk about this incoming freshman group. How do they stack up to the great teams in recent memory? Do they have a chance to be as successful as the 02 or 08 group? Could they be the next West team to make a playoff run and/or win a gold football?

They are really good. Big, strong, and athletic. More than anything they are winners and love sports. There are a couple guys who could potentially contribute to the varsity this year.

The group behind is the same way just not as big physically. But hard nosed winners and athletic.

I hope we're good this year. But with the really tough schedule and new scheme it may take a while for it to come together. I could see a couple losses early then gel and be in the thick of the SOC. But contrary to what some are trying to say, there are some holes and question marks on this team that won't be answered till the season.

But to answer your question next year will be the year we get really good when the current sophomores and 8th graders are seniors and sophomores. Next year and beyond we get really good. Imo

[Westfan]

I agree with that. As a coach, you have teach what you know. But, you should also strive to keep up with new schemes and changes.

The spread isn't the answer to every question in football. However, if you have small athletes (as we do currently), it could be benefical. Since Coach Johnson came from a school similar to West, I believe he'll know what to do with our athletes. Its just fun to spectulate.

When I say spread them out I don't necessarily mean spread. Although watching how Ohio State uses the spread to create running lanes makes me a believer more and more. What I mean is put more receivers on the field. Focus more on the passing game. Split guys out who are specialized at playing receiver. Not just a back spread out as a decoy or to block.

But throwing and catching the football is an art. And it's not something you change over night. It's not been stressed nearly enough in the double tight T formation we have ran all the way up. It will take time to develop.

I have complete confidence in Johnson and Pendleton. They are excellent football minds. LU had a great offense with balance and he was responsible. It may take a while but they'll put us in the best position to be successful.

[jagered]

I didn't put that up to knock the kids I thought it was hilarious and dang near busted a gut watching it. They r kids for crying out loud and took 30 seconds out of their workout time to make it and I am pretty sure that they r not going to grow a new muscle or pick up 2 seconds of speed by losing that 30 seconds.

[local superstar]

I pick Westfan as the next assistant coach! :12224

[Westfan]

I pick Westfan as the next assistant coach! :12224

And the previous posts about staying on topic and thread cancelations. Well this is usually how it happens. And it seems to be the same select few time after time.

[The Oaf]

I pick Westfan as the next assistant coach! :12224

And the previous posts about staying on topic and thread cancelations. Well this is usually how it happens. And it seems to be the same select few time after time.

Funny how that works huh?

[sider]

Guys, when someone says something outrageous like some of the comments in this forum, just ignore it. Who cares? Just block them or let them go off on there own tirades taking to themselves.

Westfan, I couldn't agree more, passing is an art form. When a team drops back to pass, there's a lot going on. The quarterback has to make a read and throw the ball accurately, and the receiver has to find a hole in the zone and catch the ball. Then there's the issue of the line pass blocking, which teaching them to do the opposite of what they do most of the time. There must be a lot of time committed to being a good passing team. Unfortunately this takes away time from the run game. But that's the beauty of being


Spread doesn't necessarily mean soft. Look at auburn, they are far from soft. I think one key is doing what the teams in your league can't defend. Teams in the area are used to stopping the double tight stuff. This is one reason so many teams had trouble with burg and valley. It always comes back to execution, but schemes help.

With the switch to the 4 man, I wonder how West will do. The 52 has been good to us. I think defense will be where we struggle the most.

[The Oaf]

Guys, when someone says something outrageous like some of the comments in this forum, just ignore it. Who cares? Just block them or let them go off on there own tirades taking to themselves.

Westfan, I couldn't agree more, passing is an art form. When a team drops back to pass, there's a lot going on. The quarterback has to make a read and throw the ball accurately, and the receiver has to find a hole in the zone and catch the ball. Then there's the issue of the line pass blocking, which teaching them to do the opposite of what they do most of the time. There must be a lot of time committed to being a good passing team. Unfortunately this takes away time from the run game. But that's the beauty of being


Spread doesn't necessarily mean soft. Look at auburn, they are far from soft. I think one key is doing what the teams in your league can't defend. Teams in the area are used to stopping the double tight stuff. This is one reason so many teams had trouble with burg and valley. It always comes back to execution, but schemes help.

With the switch to the 4 man, I wonder how West will do. The 52 has been good to us. I think defense will be where we struggle the most.

Agreed, QB development will essentially be starting from scratch. Hard to expect a kid to be a prolific passer coming from the old offense. He didn't need to be.

[Westfan]

The 5-2 has been good. But I like the idea of switching to a 4 man front.

I know you can drop ends off and stuff out of a 5-2, but when you play a spread team you have to alter your entire approach in 4 days of practice. Kids are then out of their comfort zone playing in space. Switching to a 4-3 or 4-4 will take time to learn, but in the end it will help us.

[Westfan]

Agreed, QB development will essentially be starting from scratch. Hard to expect a kid to be a prolific passer coming from the old offense. He didn't need to be.

LU wasn't wide open. They ran some I and ran some spread. But they were balanced. In the games I watched when they beat wheelersburg and valley; LU was the aggressor. LU never settled for the run or pass. They kept mixing it up and the defenses never settled in.
Its like with West lately teams knew if they stopped the run that we couldn't hurt them with the passing game. You didn't get that feeling watching LU. They could hurt you both ways.
I would say Johnson will run a similar offense at West.

[The Oaf]

Agreed, QB development will essentially be starting from scratch. Hard to expect a kid to be a prolific passer coming from the old offense. He didn't need to be.

LU wasn't wide open. They ran some I and ran some spread. But they were balanced. In the games I watched when they beat wheelersburg and valley; LU was the aggressor. LU never settled for the run or pass. They kept mixing it up and the defenses never settled in.
Its like with West lately teams knew if they stopped the run that we couldn't hurt them with the passing game. You didn't get that feeling watching LU. They could hurt you both ways.
I would say Johnson will run a similar offense at West.

Yes I am aware of that and agree. I was talking about West's QB and implying that the new coach will be starting over in a sense after QB play(throwing) wasn't a huge part of the past coaches' offense.

[Westfan]

No doubt Oaf. It's gonna be a big adjustment.

[Anonymous_Falcon_Fan]

No doubt Oaf. It's gonna be a big adjustment.

But in the long run, you all will benefit greatly from having some value at QB.

[osu 77]

The 5-2 has been good. But I like the idea of switching to a 4 man front.

I know you can drop ends off and stuff out of a 5-2, but when you play a spread team you have to alter your entire approach in 4 days of practice. Kids are then out of their comfort zone playing in space. Switching to a 4-3 or 4-4 will take time to learn, but in the end it will help us.

I don't agree that you alter entire approach in 4 days. You do this all year long through the summer etc. Also if you have noticed teams that play the 50 defense have very athletic ends. This allows you to drop them in space and cover the flats etc. 3 of the 7 teams that won the state last year played a 50 defense.

[sider]

When you run the 50, you can also play a strong and weak end. Have one that's a little more athletic who can guard a slot receiver and have one who is a little stronger that can shed a tight end/wing.

The days of playing 5 true linemen have passed. You gotta commit to having kids that can play in space on the field. This is why we have struggled against teams that spread you out.

[local superstar]

On defense West has more returners than anyone in league and they are West side kids. They should do well in any defense the coach sees fit. He is most familiar with his dad's defense 4-4 that will work.