Week 9 (8-0) Lucasville Valley @ (7-1) Wheelersburg

[Burg_Grad_77]

I was just pointing out that Chesapeake consistently gave Valley a very short field to work with and it bit them in the rearend numerous times. Wheelersburg can not do that and expect to win this game. They have to force Valley to make long drives and use up the clock. If they give Valley a short field like Peake did and Valley gets a lot of quick scores it will not fare well for the Pirates. They can't afford to try to play catch up with Valley. They need to limit Valleys touches on offense by making them have long drives and for the Burg to have long sustained drives with scores as well. A lot of 3 and outs for the Pirates will give the Indians far to many opportunities to score.

[Jesco White]

I think you made a solid assessment Burg Grad. I was impressed with decisions Shears made against Minford. If the Indians don't play excellent assignment football, he could certainly hurt them on any given play. One of the things I thought could possibly be exploited defensively for Valley, is that Shears appeared to lean heavily on E. Miller when throwing the ball. Of course, the young man seems like a heck of a receiver, so who could blame him. I began to wonder while watching, would he adjust and go through his progression if the Indians were able to take E. Miller away? (of course, that's a big IF)

I will say this about the thought process of some that Burg needs to sustain long drives and not give up big plays to Valley...personally, I'd like to see a game where the two teams persist in a slug-fest for four quarters. I, like some others, really believe that favors Valley. I think the Indians largest advantage is in the trenches and physicality of play. I think if this game is a shootout about big plays, that favors keeping the Pirates around with a "punchers chance" as someone pointed out earlier.

Who knows, I could be completely wrong. No matter what, we're all going to get to find out what works and what doesn't in a few days, and that's the best part! :122245

[piratepride86]

4 days to go
Sorry for yanking some chains could not help myself
should be a great game
Valley does deserve some respect as does west and minford
Who ever makes the playoffs the entire area should be behind them.

[ZacBrownBand]

Valley definitely has the talent to win this one. And if the line can play the way they did against West, then the chance of success will do up! But Wheelersburg has a great program with great tradition. Everyone knows that Valley hasn't beat Burg in football in about a million years or so. If Valley wants to win, they have to ignore that fact.

Valley needs to come out early and attack, get an early lead and then keep adding on to it throughout the game.

Should be a good one

[Bo_Diaz]

Burg_grad if u think putting valley deep in their own territory will stall their offense go watch the west game.. I think valley had to drives for 80 yards and one for 94 without throwing a pass... the difference in this game is the lineplay and the size advantage that valley has... while size is not everything I believe valley's lines will play very physical as they did against west...

He was simply pointing some stuff out.. :122248

I'm with ya Coop! That stuff right there is the reason this board gets annoying at times. Someone tries to give an objective analysis of the game and then the pissing starts. Valley fans, Valley is a darn good team but they are not perfect. They have some very very good players but Burg will scheme to take something away. Burg Grad is just pointing out what he saw watching the game. And then he's throwing his opinion of what Burg can do to counter the Indian attack. He's not saying Valley isn't this or Valley isn't that. He's not putting them down or saying they can't do certain things on the field.

I, for one, really appreciate Burg Grad's post!

[4thgoal]

I think you made a solid assessment Burg Grad. I was impressed with decisions Shears made against Minford. If the Indians don't play excellent assignment football, he could certainly hurt them on any given play. One of the things I thought could possibly be exploited defensively for Valley, is that Shears appeared to lean heavily on E. Miller when throwing the ball. Of course, the young man seems like a heck of a receiver, so who could blame him. I began to wonder while watching, would he adjust and go through his progression if the Indians were able to take E. Miller away? (of course, that's a big IF)

In the Minford game Eddie did seem to the the focus of the passing game, but it other games it has been Hood in the slot receiver position and D.Miller (6'3" TE), so Eddie isn't the only receiver with pretty good hands.

[Bo_Diaz]

Didn't mean to be too hard on ya socchamp. After reading 5.5-6 pages of shots across the bow, I was relieved some actual thoughts on what may happen during this game. I get sick of reading the "my team is better than your team because I from there" stuff. Keep rooting on those Indians!

[ManitouDan]

putting constant pressure on yates could change the game. Against West he didn't put to the turf too often . If Burg pressures him anything can happen. Passing HS teams are not as polished as passing college or pro games. These two are evenly matched enough where just a turnover or two could swing the outcome of the game. I expect a much tighter game than the valley-west game. Valley's D against west was impressive. But again , IMO Burg will have a better O game plan than west came into the contest with. MD

[here4fun]

If you watched the Valley and West game you noticed that when blake was going to throw long how much time the OL would give him to throw the ball. There hasnt been a better throw and catch than Dwyer made in that game. that is what those two will do if their givin time.Valley also has other WR that nobody speaks much of that will get the job done as well that is why Valley O is deadly they have so many weapons. Unless you have watched most of the games is hard to see just how good they really are. I think Yates has thrown several balls over 50 yards to several different WR this year. I have not seen any of Burgs games so I really cant say what they really can do. So if Burg can contain the throwing game they also have to stop are running game which Valley did well against a big D with West.If are boys play as hard as they did with West they are going to be really hard to stop.I dont think Burg will they just have to keep up and hope for the lucky breaks that they need.

[crab_apple4]

putting constant pressure on yates could change the game. Against West he didn't put to the turf too often . If Burg pressures him anything can happen. Passing HS teams are not as polished as passing college or pro games. These two are evenly matched enough where just a turnover or two could swing the outcome of the game. I expect a much tighter game than the valley-west game. Valley's D against west was impressive. But again , IMO Burg will have a better O game plan than west came into the contest with. MD

I think where I disagree with this is the assertion that Valley is a passing team. They do throw the ball often but in the West game Keller had 27 carries and Yates, Rowe and Jordan added about 10-15 more. I think Coop mentioned that they had a 90+ yard drive against West without throwing the ball. I think another thing that Valley hasn't show a ton of this season is designed runs by Yates. With the way Keller has ran the ball Valley has been able to keep Yates upright and in the pocket, really only calling a handful of runs for Yates this season. I do agree that Burg will be more balanced and have a much different game plan against the Indians. But offensively, Valley has had the luxury off pounding the ball with Keller or putting it in the air to him and Dwyer depending on what the defense has given them. I truely believe Valley's team this year is a rare HS team that can beat you both on the ground and through the air on a regular basis.

[ManitouDan]

Yeah I"d agree Valley is not one dimensional, But I'm not 100% sold they can run it on w-burg. should be a super HS game. MD

[here4fun]

putting constant pressure on yates could change the game. Against West he didn't put to the turf too often . If Burg pressures him anything can happen. Passing HS teams are not as polished as passing college or pro games. These two are evenly matched enough where just a turnover or two could swing the outcome of the game. I expect a much tighter game than the valley-west game. Valley's D against west was impressive. But again , IMO Burg will have a better O game plan than west came into the contest with. MD

I think where I disagree with this is the assertion that Valley is a passing team. They do throw the ball often but in the West game Keller had 27 carries and Yates, Rowe and Jordan added about 10-15 more. I think Coop mentioned that they had a 90+ yard drive against West without throwing the ball. I think another thing that Valley hasn't show a ton of this season is designed runs by Yates. With the way Keller has ran the ball Valley has been able to keep Yates upright and in the pocket, really only calling a handful of runs for Yates this season. I do agree that Burg will be more balanced and have a much different game plan against the Indians. But offensively, Valley has had the luxury off pounding the ball with Keller or putting it in the air to him and Dwyer depending on what the defense has given them. I truely believe Valley's team this year is a rare HS team that can beat you both on the ground and through the air on a regular basis.

The answer to that is Yates was fighting a basket ball injury and they dont need a repeat of him getting a concussion like last year.But if it is last resort he will run and has some its not that Valley is unbalanced its just I think they choose for him not to run as much.

[Buckeye-4-Life]

I truly believe this is the year that Valley breaks the streak. They are much more talented than the Burg and the toughness of Keller and a few others will take care of business. The monkey comes off Coach Crabtree's back in a big way. 35-14 Valley

[here4fun]

I truly believe this is the year that Valley breaks the streak. They are much more talented than the Burg and the toughness of Keller and a few others will take care of business. The monkey comes off Coach Crabtree's back in a big way. 35-14 Valley

I agree I think it is going to take a really good playoff team to beat them If that and I will go out there and say I think they can win state if they what it bad enough

[wobycat]

I truly believe this is the year that Valley breaks the streak. They are much more talented than the Burg and the toughness of Keller and a few others will take care of business. The monkey comes off Coach Crabtree's back in a big way. 35-14 Valley

I agree I think it is going to take a really good playoff team to beat them If that and I will go out there and say I think they can win state if they what it bad enough

[SOCMAN05]

Wheelersburg defense is going to be under a tremendous amount of pressue. Valley will hit them with everything in Rolfes playbook including designed QB runs !

[forward]

I know this aint Jurnior High but i though some of you might find this intersting this week.......back when these Seniors were in the 8th grade the Valley boys came down to the Burg unbeaten in 7th and 8th grade, the 8th grade from Burg had struggled and had lost their share but were holding their own.. I am sure some had predicted a blow out and that Burg had no chance in the game or a victory.
But with the final seconds running out on the game clock Whitley took the snap under center sent the quick pitch to Schears, Whitley rolloed to the opposite sideline Shears then hit him with a perfectly thrown ball down the sideline for an untouched 6points and the VICTORY!!! Valley is favored i every aspect of the game some will say. but if the boys from Burg can keep this one close till late in the game there is going to be some nervous Indians on the Hill!!

[Alitown]

I know this aint Jurnior High but i though some of you might find this intersting this week.......back when these Seniors were in the 8th grade the Valley boys came down to the Burg unbeaten in 7th and 8th grade, the 8th grade from Burg had struggled and had lost their share but were holding their own.. I am sure some had predicted a blow out and that Burg had no chance in the game or a victory.
But with the final seconds running out on the game clock Whitley took the snap under center sent the quick pitch to Schears, Whitley rolloed to the opposite sideline Shears then hit him with a perfectly thrown ball down the sideline for an untouched 6points and the VICTORY!!! Valley is favored i every aspect of the game some will say. but if the boys from Burg can keep this one close till late in the game there is going to be some nervous Indians on the Hill!!

That was also the worst officiating game I have ever seen.. I never blame a win or loss on officials but I'm pretty sure Keller had 3 or 4 TD called back. Ever long play Valley would have got called back. It was terrible.

[forward]

Of course it was, and if Burg wins im sure it will be again.

[crab_apple4]

smh