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It's been nice to read some football posts along with some light-hearted posts, blended with a few baby-daddy posts 8) :mrgreen:


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Exactly! :122249


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the trophy case wrote:as i was catching up on thread,
had to double check the address in my browser
to make sure i wasn't logged onto the portsmouth topix forum...
I think its actually the West Portsmouth topix thread, but I am just picking nits, haha.

Its extremely gratifying to see the kids and staff pull out an upset win. We haven't had one that big since we beat Rock Hill in 07 after getting throttled by Portsmouth and Sheridan.

Valley is probably a region title contender. They look, play, and have a roster that fits the part. West started slow, but there is definitely talent there. As of right now (and if the win the games they should) they are a playoff team.

However, other than last year, Valley has never physically dominated West. If Valley pounds the football, they will run into some trouble. I can't see either team putting up a ton of points. Valley is older and probably a little more talented, but West will definitely be a thorn in their side.

I'm curious if any Valley posters think this game will get out of hand? If someone were setting a line what would it be?


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sider wrote:
the trophy case wrote:as i was catching up on thread,
had to double check the address in my browser
to make sure i wasn't logged onto the portsmouth topix forum...
I think its actually the West Portsmouth topix thread, but I am just picking nits, haha.

Its extremely gratifying to see the kids and staff pull out an upset win. We haven't had one that big since we beat Rock Hill in 07 after getting throttled by Portsmouth and Sheridan.

Valley is probably a region title contender. They look, play, and have a roster that fits the part. West started slow, but there is definitely talent there. As of right now (and if the win the games they should) they are a playoff team.

However, other than last year, Valley has never physically dominated West. If Valley pounds the football, they will run into some trouble. I can't see either team putting up a ton of points. Valley is older and probably a little more talented, but West will definitely be a thorn in their side.

I'm curious if any Valley posters think this game will get out of hand? If someone were setting a line what would it be?
Valley -13 Over/Under: 46


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sider wrote:
the trophy case wrote:as i was catching up on thread,
had to double check the address in my browser
to make sure i wasn't logged onto the portsmouth topix forum...
I think its actually the West Portsmouth topix thread, but I am just picking nits, haha.

Its extremely gratifying to see the kid staff pull out an upset win. We haven't had one that big since we beat Rock Hill in 07 after getting throttled by Portsmouth and Sheridan.

Valley is probably a region title contender. They look, play, and have a roster that fits the part. West started slow, but there is definitely talent there. As of right now (and if the win the games they should) they are a playoff team.

However, other than last year, Valley has never physically dominated West. If Valley pounds the football, they will run into some trouble. I can't see either team putting up a ton of points. Valley is older and probably a little more talented, but West will definitely be a thorn in their side.

I'm curious if any Valley posters think this game will get out of hand? If someone were setting a line what would it be?
Honestly, if I was putting a line on this game. I would probably have Valley as an 8 point favorite just because the history of the past few years and the heated rivalry that has been created between the 2 schools. I don't look for this game to get out of hand and don't see it getting decided until the 4th quarter. I would love to see it get out of hand in Valleys favor, but I just don't see that happening.


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I don't think it will get out of hand. I've already posted that I think Valley will win by double-figures, but I don't think it'll be out of hand. I personally think it'll be in the range of 28-6 or 28-14, Indians.


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My guess would be 28-6 If the soph lineman and Dunn are healthy if not 21-13 should be a packed stadium


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sider wrote:
the trophy case wrote:as i was catching up on thread,
had to double check the address in my browser
to make sure i wasn't logged onto the portsmouth topix forum...
I think its actually the West Portsmouth topix thread, but I am just picking nits, haha.

Its extremely gratifying to see the kids and staff pull out an upset win. We haven't had one that big since we beat Rock Hill in 07 after getting throttled by Portsmouth and Sheridan.

Valley is probably a region title contender. They look, play, and have a roster that fits the part. West started slow, but there is definitely talent there. As of right now (and if the win the games they should) they are a playoff team.

However, other than last year, Valley has never physically dominated West. If Valley pounds the football, they will run into some trouble. I can't see either team putting up a ton of points. Valley is older and probably a little more talented, but West will definitely be a thorn in their side.

I'm curious if any Valley posters think this game will get out of hand? If someone were setting a line what would it be?
I thought Valley was more physical in the game that the Indians won 28-20 @ Valley a few years ago....havent personally attended any of the others, I was at that game.

That has nothing to do with this year of course, and thats JMO.

I dont think this game will get "Out of hand", but I do think Valley will wear West down.

Line: Valley -9.5/48.5

End of 1
Valley 14
West 0

Half
Valley 21
West 8

End 3
Valley 27
West 16

Final:
Valley 34
West 22


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Yes, Crab's Bro, Valley was more physical in 2011. West had a slight edge in team speed, that's how they scored. But, Valley did not physically manhandle West. It was just a great high school football game.

I like all of the predictions I would set the line at -10 for Valley and the over/under at around 40...I think if goes more than 40, West is getting beaten badly...however if it stays in the low to mid 20s, West wins. They must keep Valley grounded, they have some explosive kids and a decent passing game.


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izladoom wrote:My guess would be 28-6 If the soph lineman and Dunn are healthy if not 21-13 should be a packed stadium
What happened to Dunn?


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local superstar wrote:
izladoom wrote:My guess would be 28-6 If the soph lineman and Dunn are healthy if not 21-13 should be a packed stadium
What happened to Dunn?
Should be good to go at gametime! ;-)


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local superstar wrote:
izladoom wrote:My guess would be 28-6 If the soph lineman and Dunn are healthy if not 21-13 should be a packed stadium
What happened to Dunn?
Dunn rolled an ankle in the first half last week but finished the half and then did not come back out in pads after halftime. I would think that if the score wasn't already 27-0, Hayden would have played so I have no doubt that he will be good to go. The sophomore lineman, Jordan Spradlin, will also be good to go after a slight knee problem kept him out last week. He did dislocate a finger last night that they couldn't pop back in, but I don't see that as an issue.


I think a line on this game in the 8-14 range sounds about right. I have now watched a few of the Wests' games and they defiantly play very hard. They were very effective getting the edge on Minford and they made them pay. I think that will be a little harder to do this week, but if they do, they will be effective in the run game. I think Irwin is doing a pretty good job in the passing game, but one of the constants for Valley so far has been a great pass rush. By my best count, the Indians first team defense has not giving up a passing touchdown since week 1 to Portsmouth. I also believe they have given up about 130 yards (Starters only) in the last four weeks. The Indians have had substantial leads in all those games, yet teams still haven't been able to throw. Valley also has 3 pick sixes so far.

Another area that I see as a big advantage for Valley is in the kicking game. The Indians have weapons at Kicker and Punter and have had several huge returns this season. West did not (on film) look very strong in the kicking game.

The only thing I know for sure is that there will be a packed house and the split-the-pot will be a nice payday.


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There is alot riding on this game.

#409 Portsmouth West (West Portsmouth) (3-3) 96.8
Ranked #51 of 108 in Division V, #8 in Region 17
Overall strength-of-schedule 0.457, #411 toughest (of 718)
Division V strength-of-schedule 0.549, #50 toughest (of 108)
Conference championship: 1% outright, 6% at least a share
Projected record 5-5, win total probabilities 3W-2% 4W-22% 5W-64% 6W-11%
Harbin projections (ranges): 4W-7.8(6.3-11.3) 5W-9.6(8.7-14.3) 6W-13.7(12.6-17.6) 7W-18.0(17.1-19.4)
Playoff probabilities: 4W-2% 5W-36% 6W-99% 7W-100%
Seed projections (ranges): 4W-#out (7-#out) 5W-#out (#6-#out) 6W-#7 (#5-#out) 7W-#6 (#5-#6)
Projected 9.60 Harbin points (divisor 100), projected out (best #5, worst out)
Playoff chance 35% (control own destiny), no home game
Playoff chance 97% with a win this week, and 27% with a loss
1st round opponents: Bishop Hartley (Columbus) 38%, Wheelersburg 26%, Liberty Union (Baltimore) 18%, St Clairsville 17%, Martins Ferry 1%
Week 1: Lost 29-41 H vs #317 Fairland (Proctorville) (3-3, D5 R17), pick: W by 4
Week 2: Lost 21-35 A vs #410 Portsmouth (2-4, D5 R17), pick: L by 4
Week 3: Lost 6-33 H vs #89 Liberty Union (Baltimore) (6-0, D5 R17), pick: L by 25
Week 4: Won 34-6 A vs #650 Rock Hill (Ironton) (0-6, D5 R17), pick: W by 6
Week 5: Won 42-0 A vs #597 Chesapeake (1-5, D5 R17), pick: W by 4
Week 6: Won 35-28 H vs #303 Minford (5-1, D4 R14), pick: L by 23
Week 7: A vs #201 Valley (Lucasville) (6-0, D6 R21) 88% L (20 pts)
Week 8: H vs #536 Waverly (2-4, D5 R17) 79% W (14 pts)
Week 9: A vs #636 Northwest (Mc Dermott) (3-3, D5 R17) 91% W (22 pts)
Week 10: A vs #118 Wheelersburg (6-0, D5 R17) 94% L (26 pts)
Week 4: 84.4 (#547, #80 in D5, divisor 100, berth 1%, home 1%, proj. out) 4W-6.6H-1% 5W-10.1H-25%
Week 5: 90.8 (#481, #65 in D5, divisor 100, berth 2%, proj. out) 4W-5.6H-1% 5W-9.6H-18% 6W-13.6H-75%-#7
Week 6: 96.8 (#409, #51 in D5, divisor 100, berth 35%, proj. out) 4W-7.8H-2% 5W-9.6H-36% 6W-13.7H-99%-#7 7W-18.0H-100%-#6


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nutronron2012 wrote:There is alot riding on this game.
Playoff chance 97% with a win this week, and 27% with a loss
That is assuming that Ironton and Southeastern win the games they are predicted to win. I don't think Ironton will win 4 games and likely will finish with 2-3 wins which would put them out. Southeastern really hasn't beaten anyone and their remaining games could go either way. It would be interesting if West had to play weeks 10 and 11 @ Wheelersburg....


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One game at a time


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nutronron2012 wrote: Week 6: Won 35-28 H vs #303 Minford (5-1, D4 R14), pick: L by 23
Week 7: A vs #201 Valley (Lucasville) (6-0, D6 R21) 88% L (20 pts)
This is exactly why the BCS didn't work. You can't just put a bunch of numbers in a computer and get the answers. There is no number to put on how much desire a kid has to win. Just look Minford was a 23 point favorite lost by 7. I mean I could say well by looking at these numbers since Minford was favored by more points than Valley then West should win by 10. I'm not calling out anyone here, thank you nutron2012 for posting this. One thing I have always told kids is to play every game like its your last, every play likes its your last. If you do this what ever is meant to be will be. Leave it all on the field and let the chips fall where they may. Numbers are nice to look at but in the big picture they don't hold a lot of weight. Best of luck to both teams hope for a injury free game for both teams. Just wish I didn't have to work.


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noles_fan wrote:
nutronron2012 wrote: Week 6: Won 35-28 H vs #303 Minford (5-1, D4 R14), pick: L by 23
Week 7: A vs #201 Valley (Lucasville) (6-0, D6 R21) 88% L (20 pts)
This is exactly why the BCS didn't work. You can't just put a bunch of numbers in a computer and get the answers. There is no number to put on how much desire a kid has to win. Just look Minford was a 23 point favorite lost by 7. I mean I could say well by looking at these numbers since Minford was favored by more points than Valley then West should win by 10. I'm not calling out anyone here, thank you nutron2012 for posting this. One thing I have always told kids is to play every game like its your last, every play likes its your last. If you do this what ever is meant to be will be. Leave it all on the field and let the chips fall where they may. Numbers are nice to look at but in the big picture they don't hold a lot of weight. Best of luck to both teams hope for a injury free game for both teams. Just wish I didn't have to work.
I dont know what kind of work you do, but this will be on VSN...


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I will be trying to get it at work, I hope it works this one will be to good to miss.


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noles_fan wrote:I will be trying to get it at work, I hope it works this one will be to good to miss.
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You won't miss anything...Valley will blow West out...Score Prediction :Valley 49 West 7


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IBTT wrote:
noles_fan wrote:I will be trying to get it at work, I hope it works this one will be to good to miss.
:122246

You won't miss anything...Valley will blow West out...Score Prediction :Valley 49 West 7
I dont see the game this lopsided, West playing well, and confident. I've got Valley by 12


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