Ironton out of OVC in 2024.

[Yh8awinner]

The numbers are not the problem, your understanding and interpretation is.

CB is not a good indicator of transfers. Why? Because if the family moves into the school district, the kid is a tier 0; adds nothing to the CB even though this is obviously a transfer.

So back to my point, Burg rarely gets high school transfers, and their CB number is mostly due to kids that have been in the systems from k-12. And yet they produce winning programs with their homegrown kids. Have won many state titles!

Homegrown kids from other school districts. Check the above numbers.

So based on your logic, since Perkins counts as a Tier 0 (does not add anything to CB), he did not transfer into Ironton?

A kid who went to a school since kindergarten but lives in a another school district (on the border)? A transfer.

A kid who moves to another high school starting his junior year? Not a transfer.

That is what you are claiming by blindly pointing at the CB number. You are so obsessed over the CB number that you have forgotten what the word “transfer” means.

They just don't want to face it rb23. The kids in that class were there since grade school with 95% since kindergarten. But all they can do is look at that little number the ohsaa puts out there. It all comes down to Ironton doesn't have the staff to coach up their own like the burg does so they have to bring in a bunch of talent from numerous schools. I promise you 2 things.
1. If burg coaching staff had the talent Ironton has brought in in the last 4 years they would have at least 2 rings.
2. If Ironton would have the talent burg has had the last 4 years they would be lucky to make the playoffs.

[ohbuckeye2]

Homegrown kids from other school districts. Check the above numbers.

So based on your logic, since Perkins counts as a Tier 0 (does not add anything to CB), he did not transfer into Ironton?

A kid who went to a school since kindergarten but lives in a another school district (on the border)? A transfer.

A kid who moves to another high school starting his junior year? Not a transfer.

That is what you are claiming by blindly pointing at the CB number. You are so obsessed over the CB number that you have forgotten what the word “transfer” means.

They just don't want to face it rb23. The kids in that class were there since grade school with 95% since kindergarten. But all they can do is look at that little number the ohsaa puts out there. It all comes down to Ironton doesn't have the staff to coach up their own like the burg does so they have to bring in a bunch of talent from numerous schools. I promise you 2 things.
1. If burg coaching staff had the talent Ironton has brought in in the last 4 years they would have at least 2 rings.
2. If Ironton would have the talent burg has had the last 4 years they would be lucky to make the playoffs.

[Yh8awinner]

So based on your logic, since Perkins counts as a Tier 0 (does not add anything to CB), he did not transfer into Ironton?

A kid who went to a school since kindergarten but lives in a another school district (on the border)? A transfer.

A kid who moves to another high school starting his junior year? Not a transfer.

That is what you are claiming by blindly pointing at the CB number. You are so obsessed over the CB number that you have forgotten what the word “transfer” means.

They just don't want to face it rb23. The kids in that class were there since grade school with 95% since kindergarten. But all they can do is look at that little number the ohsaa puts out there. It all comes down to Ironton doesn't have the staff to coach up their own like the burg does so they have to bring in a bunch of talent from numerous schools. I promise you 2 things.
1. If burg coaching staff had the talent Ironton has brought in in the last 4 years they would have at least 2 rings.
2. If Ironton would have the talent burg has had the last 4 years they would be lucky to make the playoffs.

That's all you got? The denial laugh! Classic!

[LockHerUp]

Why can't you burgers admit it ? You are winning with talent that is not "home-grown". They are from other places. You're being ridiculous. EVERYONE sees it but you.

[Vik]

This thread is funny and sad. Ironton and Wheelersburg get a lot of help and this is nothing new. They both do stuff very well and Wheelersburg has for a long time in many sports. What’s humorous is some Jackson puff hard trying to make sense of it. has Jackson had a quarterback from Jackson this century? Jackson is Wheelersburg and Ironton in shiny form without the team accomplishments.

[Fan Friday]

Thank goodness!!! It’s like watching paint dry playing some of these OVC teams!!!

[Ironmen98]

This thread is funny and sad. Ironton and Wheelersburg get a lot of help and this is nothing new. They both do stuff very well and Wheelersburg has for a long time in many sports. What’s humorous is some Jackson puff hard trying to make sense of it. has Jackson had a quarterback from Jackson this century? Jackson is Wheelersburg and Ironton in shiny form without the team accomplishments.

Your Ironmen envy is showing.

[Vik]

This thread is funny and sad. Ironton and Wheelersburg get a lot of help and this is nothing new. They both do stuff very well and Wheelersburg has for a long time in many sports. What’s humorous is some Jackson puff hard trying to make sense of it. has Jackson had a quarterback from Jackson this century? Jackson is Wheelersburg and Ironton in shiny form without the team accomplishments.

Your Ironmen envy is showing.

No thanks I’ll keep my $3

[countywide35]

State of West Virginia passes legislation that allows parents ONE TIME TRANSFER for a student/athlete WITHOUT LOSS of eligibility.

sounds like WV gettin on board as well.

as said. it’s 2023. not 1980

[wobycat]

State of West Virginia passes legislation that allows parents ONE TIME TRANSFER for a student/athlete WITHOUT LOSS of eligibility.

sounds like WV gettin on board as well.

as said. it’s 2023. not 1980

I think Ohio will follow suit as well, unfortunately.

[RBH23]

Why can't you burgers admit it ? You are winning with talent that is not "home-grown". They are from other places. You're being ridiculous. EVERYONE sees it but you.

Okay, which kid on the football roster this year was developed by another school and snagged by Burg after he had spent time in another program?

You claim to see this, so name the kid(s) on this year’s roster that another school developed just for Burg to snag and put on their team?

[Ironmen98]

Why can't you burgers admit it ? You are winning with talent that is not "home-grown". They are from other places. You're being ridiculous. EVERYONE sees it but you.

Okay, which kid on the football roster this year was developed by another school and snagged by Burg after he had spent time in another program?

You claim to see this, so name the kid(s) on this year’s roster that another school developed just for Burg to snag and put on their team?

You seem like you’re in the know there at Burg, who are the kids who don’t live in the district? Interested

[Ironmen98]

This thread is funny and sad. Ironton and Wheelersburg get a lot of help and this is nothing new. They both do stuff very well and Wheelersburg has for a long time in many sports. What’s humorous is some Jackson puff hard trying to make sense of it. has Jackson had a quarterback from Jackson this century? Jackson is Wheelersburg and Ironton in shiny form without the team accomplishments.

Your Ironmen envy is showing.

No thanks I’ll keep my $3
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And your backyard field. Sad for the kids of Gallia .

[RBH23]

Why can't you burgers admit it ? You are winning with talent that is not "home-grown". They are from other places. You're being ridiculous. EVERYONE sees it but you.

Okay, which kid on the football roster this year was developed by another school and snagged by Burg after he had spent time in another program?

You claim to see this, so name the kid(s) on this year’s roster that another school developed just for Burg to snag and put on their team?

You seem like you’re in the know there at Burg, who are the kids who don’t live in the district? Interested

You should be telling me this based on your claims about Burg’s transfers. Who are these kids that were developed at other schools like you claim?

[Ironmen98]

Okay, which kid on the football roster this year was developed by another school and snagged by Burg after he had spent time in another program?

You claim to see this, so name the kid(s) on this year’s roster that another school developed just for Burg to snag and put on their team?

You seem like you’re in the know there at Burg, who are the kids who don’t live in the district? Interested

You should be telling me this based on your claims about Burg’s transfers. Who are these kids that were developed at other schools like you claim?

Look the ohsaa concluded with its CB report that burg had kids from outside the district, 2018 the number was as high as 30. Are you saying this is a lie?

[wobycat]

You seem like you’re in the know there at Burg, who are the kids who don’t live in the district? Interested

You should be telling me this based on your claims about Burg’s transfers. Who are these kids that were developed at other schools like you claim?

Look the ohsaa concluded with its CB report that burg had kids from outside the district, 2018 the number was as high as 30. Are you saying this is a lie?

Iron men, It's pretty simple really.

What he is saying is that Burg's CB is high because some kids live just outside the district but have attended since Kind. While Ironton's is high because they are getting transfers in high school.

He is saying that is different because the kids Ironton are getting are proven players while burg doesn't know if they will be good until they get up there.

Do you agree?

[RBH23]

You seem like you’re in the know there at Burg, who are the kids who don’t live in the district? Interested

You should be telling me this based on your claims about Burg’s transfers. Who are these kids that were developed at other schools like you claim?

Look the ohsaa concluded with its CB report that burg had kids from outside the district, 2018 the number was as high as 30. Are you saying this is a lie?

You really need to understand how CB is calculated. It doesn’t tell you much about transfers.

Example: Perkins moved into Ironton school district. Although he obviously transferred into the school starting his junior year, he is a Tier 0 with regards to CB. In other words he adds zero to the Ironton CB number.

So a school could have 100 kids transfer in, but as long as the kids live in the district, the CB would not be impacted at all.

Now to Burg, the number is correct, but Burg only had one transfer on that team. That CB number is driven by families that chose to live just outside the border but send their kids to Burg.

History lesson:
In 1989 (football title), Burg borders were closed, same in 1996 when they won the baseball championship. Many in Burg did not want the borders open. Why? Because houses and taxes were higher within Burg, so families felt “why should we pay higher prices/taxes for this school while others outside the district can get off cheaper and still send their kids to Burg”.

For a long time, Burg didn’t open their borders while other schools did, but finally they changed on this; don’t know specifically why but believe was to get more students in the school (more kids = more money from state).

That said, with open borders now, families that would have moved into Burg for the school can now get more house for their money (and pay less taxes) while still being able to send little Johnny to Burg. To assume that these kids would have ever went to the school district in which they live is a false assumption; many families would have simply paid more to be within Burg district boundaries. Would have never built homes just outside Burg district. Etc…

So what we see going on at Ironton (for example) is apples and oranges compared to what’s going on at Burg. And back to my point, Burg has shown that a school can win championships without depending on transfers.

[RBH23]

You should be telling me this based on your claims about Burg’s transfers. Who are these kids that were developed at other schools like you claim?

Look the ohsaa concluded with its CB report that burg had kids from outside the district, 2018 the number was as high as 30. Are you saying this is a lie?

Iron men, It's pretty simple really.

What he is saying is that Burg's CB is high because some kids live just outside the district but have attended since Kind. While Ironton's is high because they are getting transfers in high school.

He is saying that is different because the kids Ironton are getting are proven players while burg doesn't know if they will be good until they get up there.

Do you agree?

Exactly. Completely different situations.

[osu 77]

is there a news story to back this up?

https://www.irontontribune.com/2023/01/ ... y-in-2024/

Ironton agreed to leave the league with a review of coming back in 3 years.

screw em id never put one dollar in their pockets again

Ironton’s dominance in football caused concern with some schools that not only was it hard for them to compete, but because football is such a physical game the Fighting Tigers not only beat up on teams on the scoreboard but caused a lot of injuries. Smaller enrollments have created smaller rosters and made it difficult to not only have a varsity team of upperclassmen but caused a problem fielding reserve teams. With some schools exploring a move to another league that would make them more competitive, Ironton talked with other league teams and elected to step aside and play an independent schedule beginning in 2024 in order to keep the conference in tack. The Fighting Tigers will open the 2024 season with Wheelersburg and Jackson and close with Fairland, Gallipolis and Portsmouth once they exit the OVC which means they will need to fill the schedule with five other schools.
Read more at: https://www.irontontribune.com/2023/01/ ... y-in-2024/

Lets don't get ahead of ourselves here are a few of the comments out of the Ironton paper. They agreed to leave read above!

[Ironmen98]

You should be telling me this based on your claims about Burg’s transfers. Who are these kids that were developed at other schools like you claim?

Look the ohsaa concluded with its CB report that burg had kids from outside the district, 2018 the number was as high as 30. Are you saying this is a lie?

Iron men, It's pretty simple really.

What he is saying is that Burg's CB is high because some kids live just outside the district but have attended since Kind. While Ironton's is high because they are getting transfers in high school.

He is saying that is different because the kids Ironton are getting are proven players while burg doesn't know if they will be good until they get up there.

Do you agree?

Both getting outside help , just in different ways , yes agree