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warriorfootballer wrote:i really dont mean to take anything away from what we did this year, and especially not the seniors, who were all really great, but i dont think we should take this year as such a success. we improved by one game, and still only finished 4-6. THATS SUB-.500!!! thats only average, and barely that. many would say that the philo, ironton, and marietta games should have been won. so called should/coulda/woulda games. thats one thing we have to change before we can really have a successful season. if you shoulda, then then should have. if you coulda, then why didnt you. we have to get rid of the losing mentality. we cant settle for anything less than 100% every game. if you give 100% and lose, thats okay. sometimes you are just outmatched. but philo was beatable. marietta shouldnt have been as close as it was, even without clay at the end. the drive and motivation has to be there. luckily, i see that in next years seniors, as well as everyone else. so instead of a successful season, id just say an improved one.

and as far as clay at TE and wolfe at QB, it might work. maybe. but clay throughout his football career has put too much time and effort into that position to be moved to somewhere where he is completely untested. Same thing with Wolfe. They are too good at what they do to change positions completely. besides, hilvy and leffingwell will be good at QB next year.


You're correct in saying this, but this shows how far away we were as a program from winning consistently, like years ago. The mental part of playing any sport is overlooked all the time. These young men do try and try their hardest AT TIMES, and at other times they need reminded to give it their all on every play and even when they just got scored upon. From what I see they are improving, but it will still take more time, not just physically, but mentally as well.

A great coach once told me, "If football was easy, everybody would play."


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So, these are the folks that should be hitting the weights:

Yocum, Root, Higgins, Lewis, Pritt, Zoller, Stewart, Carl, Arnold, McGuire, Hubbard, Wolfe, Timberman, Alfred, Church, Arbuckle, Tenney, Crousser, Singer, Lane, Greathouse, Morrison & Windland.

These names are playing Basketball or Wrestling: Venham, Ellenwood, Hilverding, Henthorn, Harlow, Mason, Fivecoait, Hendrix, Gibson

So, 22 should be lifting and another 9 are partcipating in winter sports. There may be others that should be involved. Zach Place needs to be playing. Are there others?

So, as long as we hear about 2-3 kids lifting, it's pretty much business as usual. The rising seniors (current juniors) need to be talking to every one of the kids on this list letting them know that they need to be in the weight room now. When we hear about 20 players lifting hard three times a week we will get excited. That's what it will take.

Playoffs in 2009.

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warrnwarriorfan wrote:So, these are the folks that should be hitting the weights:

Yocum, Root, Higgins, Lewis, Pritt, Zoller, Stewart, Carl, Arnold, McGuire, Hubbard, Wolfe, Timberman, Alfred, Church, Arbuckle, Tenney, Crousser, Singer, Lane, Greathouse, Morrison & Windland.

These names are playing Basketball or Wrestling: Venham, Ellenwood, Hilverding, Henthorn, Harlow, Mason, Fivecoait, Hendrix, Gibson

So, 22 should be lifting and another 9 are partcipating in winter sports. There may be others that should be involved. Zach Place needs to be playing. Are there others?

So, as long as we hear about 2-3 kids lifting, it's pretty much business as usual. The rising seniors (current juniors) need to be talking to every one of the kids on this list letting them know that they need to be in the weight room now. When we hear about 20 players lifting hard three times a week we will get excited. That's what it will take.

Playoffs in 2009.

Big. Bad. Blue.

Interesting thing I just learned thursday. Nathan Greathouse is wrestling. This should benefit him a lot. Hopefully he will be quicker on his feet after that. Good luck big fella

GO BLUE


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I think warren could have a strong program. They have a plethora of boys to use from a nice size school. It is just a matter of getting them on the team/field and their talents placed in the right position. With such a loss of seniors, it could be rough, but the future is promising...


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I think warren could have a strong program. They have a plethora of boys to use from a nice size school. It is just a matter of getting them on the team/field and their talents placed in the right position. With such a loss of seniors, it could be rough, but the future is promising...



this is right on the money we have so many people who could play but bad grades and stubborn kids that are to lazy and dont want to help the team. But they will make fun of us when we only win 3 or 4 games each year.


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I remember when I first moved to SE Ohio in the mid-1990s that Warren had a pretty good football program. They had a real nice QB whose name escapes me at present. He was also a nice basketball player if memory serves me. Also had a real solid RB/FB tandem. It's good to see the Warrior gridders making a comeback. Good luck next year!


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Point Pleasant is having some of the best years in their programs history as of late.

So yeah, Point, not such a good thing. Plus its impossible to win at their place.


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swamisez wrote:Point Pleasant is having some of the best years in their programs history as of late.

So yeah, Point, not such a good thing. Plus its impossible to win at their place.

But the game isn't at P.P. Plus they are a WV team and nothing against WV teams but they just don't have the quality players that ohio teams have. I don't think many people will argue against me there. I think i saw where they wre ranked 11th in AA? I think South was also ranked 11th in WV and look what warren did to them. 42 total yards of offense and -1 yards rushing in a game where no one thought that warren could win.


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Warren's last three opponents, Logan, Chilli and Ironton, are all in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

Now it is pretty apparent how killer that schedule was, especially since all three were away games.

Sheesh.


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Point Pleasant has been very solid

They have beaten Gallipolis the last couple years if memory serves.


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How many players are in the weight room?


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weight lifting doesn't technically start until Dec. 1st. That's the day the coaches can first be in contact with players. A few of the upcoming junior and seniors have been lifting but I expect the numbers to be up come after Thanksgiving. UNDERCLASSMEN: GET IN THE WEIGHT ROOM NOW!!!! warren football needs you!!!!!


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Ace: I know you'll agree when I say that "technically" everyone needs their behinds in the weight room. I'll guarantee you the teams that beat us last season have more than 3 players lifting.


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Do they not have a "weight training" class at Warren anymore????

Back in the day, if you played football (or any sport for that matter) you took this class, and even got a 1/2 credit hour for taking it. Athletes were "afforded" the opportunity to lift weights, and run during the entire school year - even when they were playing other sports. Guess who "teached" the WT class - the Head Football Coach - you needed to follow his direction/program - if you wanted to get stronger and faster -and have any chance of seeing the field!

If I was a football player at Warren, and this WT class was offered, I figure I would take it and get my lifting/running out of the way during school hours. This way I could focus on baseball, or basketball if it was not football season. Or just enjoy the off season break.

My point is ...... Why are kids not lifting?????

Let me know if you want me to answer that question, because I do have the answer.


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We haven't beaten Gallia in a good number of years, swamisez. We ended our season this year with a 7-4 record, lost by one point in the first round of the playoffs to Magnolia, who is playing for a chance to play in the state championship this weekend.

We lose some pretty good football players but we still have a very strong group coming back for next year. Sophomore Allan Wasonga (5'10, 185 pounds) rushed for 1900+ yards this year and had 27 total touchdowns and his fullback will be back as well, Nathan Roberts (6'1, 185 pounds) . Allan is a D-1 prospect at running back and defensive back, he runs a sub 4.5 40 and was named MVP at several national combines this past summer. We will also return our best lineman, Clay Krebs (6'3, 275 pounds) as well as our best defensive player, defensive end Derek Pinson (5'10, 170 pounds).

We expect a great year again next year with the strong group of kids we have coming thru. It was the first season in a long time in which we had a winning record in both varsity and junior varsity, so we expect those kids to step right up and fill the holes that were left by our seniors.

Should be a good game next year at Warren and I will be happy to get to make the trip again. Every SEOAL school has a great football following and a great atmosphere and we miss that.


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We were just talking about lifting strictly during the after school hours. I am willing to bet that 90% of all atheletes at warren are in the athletic fitness class "weight lifting" for at least one semester. Mrs. Coffman (mother of andrew coffman, senior) is the teacher. Trust me she does an excellent job. She has some very good workouts esp. the abs workout (its a killer). Only seeing three kids in the weightroom after school does not mean that there are none lifting during school which is far from the case. Just wait until after Thanksgiving break and everyone will show up again. No need to worry, the boys will get it done.


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warriorfootballer wrote:what exactly is it about wrestling that makes football players so much better? i know theres something, but i dont know what exactly.


Wrestling benefits football players in several ways. Here is a great article I shared with football players trying to recruit them for wrestling.

How Participation In Wrestling Can Benefit The Football Player
by Robert C. Loveless, Instructor of Health, Physical Education and Recreation / Wrestling Coach, Thiel College, Greenville, Pennsylvania
In this, the era of sport specialization, many young men feel that in order to excel in one individual sport; they must devote their entire training regime to that particular sport. This concept is indeed unfortunate to many athletes in the sense that skills associated with one sport may compliment the skills associated with and demanded by an entirely different sport.
No stronger correlation exists between that of football and wrestling. Far too often the football player can be found in the weight room concentrating on developing upper body strength through such exercises as curls, bench presses, etc., after the completion of the regular season. Now obviously, weight training conducted in the proper manner serves as an excellent supplement to any training program. Unfortunately, however, in many cases the athlete who is constantly "pumping iron" may be the same athlete who is neglecting such developmental areas as agility, reaction time, flexibility, balance awareness and cardiovascular endurance.
The sport of wrestling, therefore, can be of particular value to football players. Wrestling not only provides a more qualified football candidate, but it also gives him a unique kind of training he can receive nowhere else.
The following nine reasons should be considered by football candidates in regards to why they should participate in wrestling. (particularly in the high school level):
1. Wrestling helps eliminate fear of harsh body contact.
2. Wrestling maintains muscle flow and supple pliability.
3. Wrestling teaches the athlete to roll with a fall and avoid injury.
4. Wrestling will help the athlete in the development of timing.
5. Wrestling will aid in the development of coordination.
6. Wrestling will improve one's sense of balance.
7. Wrestling will provide flexibility and stretching of the muscles for bulky linemen as well as lean running backs.
8. Wrestling serves as an excellent cardiovascular endurance training program during the "off season" (this aspect is often neglected by the football players who feel that power lifting is the cure for all problems). As one great Olympic weight lifter once said, "It does me absolutely no good whatsoever if I have a million dollar body with a ten cent heart." This could be one of the reasons why every football season it is not uncommon to hear of players passing out and dying during pre-season workouts. Certainly it gives one something to think about and raises many questions in the area of cardiovascular conditioning required for football.
9. Wrestling starts the athlete thinking about moves to counter his adversary.
Now granted, wrestling is not the solution to all conditioning and training problems, but it comes pretty close. Certainly it is an alternative which should be considered by the high school football player who is too short for or has no desire to play basketball and is seeking a way to add to his weight training program in a way that will in turn assist him in the development of skills associated with football. Success in wrestling is dependent primarily upon strength, agility and endurance, in addition to knowledge of the correct techniques. If a person is strong and agile, it is likely that he can develop into an excellent wrestler. In addition to the physical benefits one will experience through wrestling are the “side effects" that also develop within wrestlers. Such characteristics as self- discipline, nutrition awareness and self confidence. This is valuable training that is found in wrestling perhaps more than any other sport. So, football players, after you play your last game of the season, when you’re on your way to the weight room, don't pass by the wrestling room too quickly, as you may also be passing by a great opportunity to develop valuable skills used in football.

Ray Lewis the middle linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens was a state champ at 189 pounds in high school in Florida. He has publicly stated that wrestling was what gave him the skills to become a top flight player in the NFL.

Stephen Neal former 2-time NCAA champ, world freestyle champ, is now with the New England Patriots. There is a good chance that if he's healthy he'll be the starting guard this year for the defending Super Bowl champs, and this is without playing any football in college.

Brock Lesnar recently signed with the Minnesota Vikings and is trying to make the 53-man roster without any college football background


Now especially for the bigger wrestlers it is a great way for them to learn "hand fighting". Wrestlers are always fighting for inside position on their opponent, similar to a line play in football. It also teaches leverage when opponent is trying to move you in the opposite direction.


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