Does the "Cut and Run" philosophy work all the time?

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blubomber89 wrote:Everyone who responded to the post I put up had very valid points. 15 D1 talent was there, IMO those playes weren't put in the right positions to show case there talent. As far as the smoke and mirrors thing, you take a look at the average that they beat those teams. All except Nelsonville was blow outs. The nelsonville game was not lost by those kids it was lost by there coach. Not to take anything away from nelsonville at all. Here is the point I'm trying to make, there is a lot of talent in these areas. Athens has a lot of it, but don't knock them because they move to a different league. There were several reasons for leaving and winning games wasn't the only thing. I have much respect for all these schools around here, seeing that I am not from here. I just think these kids don't get a fair shake at the talent they have, not from recruiters and sometimes from us as fans.


Problem is, some people get on here and say because of their situation they should be compared to a D4 or D5 team. But they also want to say that they have great talent and a great coach. They were a pretty good team last year. But great? I don't know about that. D1 talent? I guess we will just have to wait and see about that. But no way they have 15 D1 kids. No way.

The teams they beat last year were 31-58 overall. They should have blown those teams out. Alexander was the one blowout they had against a quality team. I saw the Wahama game, and it was no blowout. They beat two teams with winning records, one a D4 and the other a D6. Yes they had a great year. But some people on here try to make them out to be something they are not.

Again I say if they had as much talent as you say, then the coaches need to do some self examinations IMO.


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If you had 15 actually D-1 College Football Prospects it would be hard to screw that team up. One can make you look like a heck of a coach but that many. The colleges should have been beating down the door at Athens High School. Heck they beat down the door at the school that had the three in three different graduating classes but 15. You would have to work hard as a coach to screw up that much talent! Now maybe the majority could have a shot at playing D-III, possible but 15 D-I? Heck with 15 D-I you should be able to beat the majority of the schools in the state of Ohio and Penn.

I am sorry but 15 D-I is just too hard to believe.


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Heavy D wrote:
blubomber89 wrote:Everyone who responded to the post I put up had very valid points. 15 D1 talent was there, IMO those playes weren't put in the right positions to show case there talent. As far as the smoke and mirrors thing, you take a look at the average that they beat those teams. All except Nelsonville was blow outs. The nelsonville game was not lost by those kids it was lost by there coach. Not to take anything away from nelsonville at all. Here is the point I'm trying to make, there is a lot of talent in these areas. Athens has a lot of it, but don't knock them because they move to a different league. There were several reasons for leaving and winning games wasn't the only thing. I have much respect for all these schools around here, seeing that I am not from here. I just think these kids don't get a fair shake at the talent they have, not from recruiters and sometimes from us as fans.


Problem is, some people get on here and say because of their situation they should be compared to a D4 or D5 team. But they also want to say that they have great talent and a great coach. They were a pretty good team last year. But great? I don't know about that. D1 talent? I guess we will just have to wait and see about that. But no way they have 15 D1 kids. No way.

The teams they beat last year were 31-58 overall. They should have blown those teams out. Alexander was the one blowout they had against a quality team. I saw the Wahama game, and it was no blowout. They beat two teams with winning records, one a D4 and the other a D6. Yes they had a great year. But some people on here try to make them out to be something they are not.

Again I say if they had as much talent as you say, then the coaches need to do some self examinations IMO.




I wouldnt call it a blowout...It was a one score game in the 4th quarter. Alexander made some key mistakes late in the game which made it look as if they were beatdown..but that wasnt the case. IMO, from what i saw on the field, Alexander was the better team.


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I see here where the problem lies, I need to clarify some things. By D1 I meant highschool D1, sorry for the confusion. And as far as the blow out thing goes, the teams Athens played such as bloom carrol, galia,and even meigs. People thought that Athens would get ran out the house and when it didn't happen those teams weren't good. No one knows what a team will do at the beginning of the season, those teams ended up not doing well at the end of the season but no one knew that would happen. Which in turn everyone said Athens had no chance. I'm not on here to argue with anyone, just wanting to say some things that I thought. I respect everyones opinion on here I just think that Athens gets a bad rap sometimes as well as other schools.


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Gallia and Bloom Carrol were both 2-8. I don't think anyone is shocked that Athens beat them. Athens gets a bad rap on here sometimes cause people from Athens get on here and thump their chests. Anytime a team is successful playing smaller schools their schedule, and quality of their team will come into question. Just ask Logan how much crap they take, even from Athens people.


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blubomber89-Ok. The biggest difference at the larger schools is that with the larger numbers there is a greater chance of there being more talent. There are kids even at very small schools that could go play at larger schools. One of the biggest difference is that at the larger schools you have what is called the program athlete which is a player that has gone through the system and made them self a football player and wait their turn to play as a Senior or possible as a Junior. Kids will specialize in a sport or find them self on only one side of the ball.


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mtswngrvsg wrote:blubomber89-Ok. The biggest difference at the larger schools is that with the larger numbers there is a greater chance of there being more talent. There are kids even at very small schools that could go play at larger schools. One of the biggest difference is that at the larger schools you have what is called the program athlete which is a player that has gone through the system and made them self a football player and wait their turn to play as a Senior or possible as a Junior. Kids will specialize in a sport or find them self on only one side of the ball.


Great point. One luxury Athens had last year was 3 or 4 running backs who could have all started for most schools. Fresh legs late in the game can make a huge difference.


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Spartan wrote::aaaaa18



Don't cry Spartan you can still talk about how great you think your team and coaches are on here. It's just that everyone else knows that in most years Athens will be mid pack in the TVC. Oh well that's a lot better than in the SEOAL days. So cheer up.

JMTG! :mrgreen:


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