Wheelersburg (1-2) @ Fairland (1-2)

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politics are everywhere. interesting posts about wanting change in coaching at burg. the stadium namesake has been on the move again for whatever reason. growling through the stands like a disgruntled bear. burg talent is down from previous years. will be down for the next couple years. good win against trojans and look forward to friday. keep up the good work.


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siderman wrote:
wobycat wrote: The Burg has the best pee-wee program in the county. This is why Minford re did their pee-wee just like Burg a few years back and they have been successful ever since. In DV football numbers mean everything.
I know a kid that played there last year. His parents said the opposite. His mother also told me of a few kids that were going to or thinking seriously of going to green to play because they agreed with them.

I talked to a 7th grade parent today that took both of her boys to green this year because she said there is just too much politics at Wheelersburg.

Also I know for a fact that Minford was considering going back to the scioto valley pee-wee league as early as 2 years ago and they inquired again this year when Northwest came back.
Joining that league and playing one game every now and then is different. Minford will not be going back to that league. Words of the head man himself.

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siderman wrote:
wobycat wrote: The Burg has the best pee-wee program in the county. This is why Minford re did their pee-wee just like Burg a few years back and they have been successful ever since. In DV football numbers mean everything.
I know a kid that played there last year. His parents said the opposite. His mother also told me of a few kids that were going to or thinking seriously of going to green to play because they agreed with them.

I talked to a 7th grade parent today that took both of her boys to green this year because she said there is just too much politics at Wheelersburg.

Also I know for a fact that Minford was considering going back to the scioto valley pee-wee league as early as 2 years ago and they inquired again this year when Northwest came back.
Minford's Pee-Wee ain't going no where, we like it just the way it is. We are getting more numbers for our High School team, and with better players.


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wobycat speaks the truth. Go to where the best small school football is played - the MAC - and you will not find football below the fifth grade. In fact, you will be hard-pressed to find football below seventh grade (St. Henry, for one, starts in seventh grade)...and they seem to be doing just fine. Youth football starting in the womb is for the parents, plain and simple. Anyone preaching otherwise has little reputable, long-term evidence.


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RxBurgFan wrote:politics are everywhere. interesting posts about wanting change in coaching at burg. the stadium namesake has been on the move again for whatever reason. growling through the stands like a disgruntled bear. burg talent is down from previous years. will be down for the next couple years. good win against trojans and look forward to friday. keep up the good work.

Grandsons coming into the picture soon is what I heard. Maybe he'll come out of retirement to stomp the sidelines again. lol


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Ditto on syntax. Soccer is actually better to develop athletic skill up until the 6th or 7th grade. Minford isn't going back to the Scioto Valley League. That battle (kind of a civil war) was already fought.


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siderman wrote:
wobycat wrote: The Burg has the best pee-wee program in the county. This is why Minford re did their pee-wee just like Burg a few years back and they have been successful ever since. In DV football numbers mean everything.
I know a kid that played there last year. His parents said the opposite. His mother also told me of a few kids that were going to or thinking seriously of going to green to play because they agreed with them.

I talked to a 7th grade parent today that took both of her boys to green this year because she said there is just too much politics at Wheelersburg.

Also I know for a fact that Minford was considering going back to the scioto valley pee-wee league as early as 2 years ago and they inquired again this year when Northwest came back.
Nobody left to play for green. I know the kid in question and he came from West to Burg, so it was probably a shock to the parents that he wasn't the star. His team won our burg bowl last year. Parents can't see past " the number of carries my boy gets" to realize its about building a program.

Don't know about the jr high situation.


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I have heard good arguments for and against playing intramural or in a league.

Intrumural. If you have enough for say 4 teams, and you play yourselves you develop 4 quarterbacks, etc, etc. The down side is competition. I know our baseball league gets kinda boring playing yourselves.

If you play in a league, you get better competition and you learn to win more.

As far as not starting till the 5th, I can see the logic. I also heard the theory that playing too you may get the a little gun shy. But if they have that makeup, that's always gonna be there IMO. Soccer isn't a non contact sport and neither is baseball or basketball at times. Kids need to do something. Pee wee football is probably some of the best times in a kids life and I wouldn't want to take that away from them just to have a few more numbers in high school.


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siderman wrote:I have heard good arguments for and against playing intramural or in a league.

Intrumural. If you have enough for say 4 teams, and you play yourselves you develop 4 quarterbacks, etc, etc. The down side is competition. I know our baseball league gets kinda boring playing yourselves.

If you play in a league, you get better competition and you learn to win more.

As far as not starting till the 5th, I can see the logic. I also heard the theory that playing too you may get the a little gun shy. But if they have that makeup, that's always gonna be there IMO. Soccer isn't a non contact sport and neither is baseball or basketball at times. Kids need to do something. Pee wee football is probably some of the best times in a kids life and I wouldn't want to take that away from them just to have a few more numbers in high school.
We did look into the competition thing and decided to co-op with Minford at the end of year to pull the grades together and play each other in the tournament. It worked well last year but we will see this year.


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wobycat wrote:
sider wrote:
demaniac1 wrote:Sider is a good poster, he has made some great calls in the last few yrs.
footballfan wrote:sider...are you originally from West? Someone giving another team credit just isn't a characteristic from someone from West is it? LOL....just kidding. I look for Burg to win by 2 scores or more.
Yes I am a West sider and thanks for the nice remarks, lol...If Burg gets rid of Woodward it would be a bad a choice...I think that he is a good man and a good coach, Whereas I don't agree with his offensive scheme and I think the younger level might be starting to lose some of the structure that it once had (just rumors Ive heard), hes went to the second round of the playoffs two years in a row (Burg would of been regional champs if it werent for a bad break in the end) and has went 19-5 in two years that pretty good...I think the days of burg dominating the Soc are far over, every the Soc is competitive year in and year its a hard league to win.
How young are you talking?
I heard the pee-wee program was starting to lose some structure that it used to have


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I don't know what the big discussion is about the pee wee program. Back in the day, Burg was one of the only towns around here that actually had a pee wee league with players just from Burg, while everyone else only fielded one team and had maybe 25 players on it. Burg would consistently have 80-100 5th and 6th graders playing. That number has dropped since soccer came in to the picture. The beauty of that pee wee league is that those players were taught Coach Millers plays and by the time the kids reached HS, they knew his system.


I'm not sure that is still going on these days though and it is starting to show


Burg better be prepared for this game or it could just bite them in the butt.


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I was involved with the pee-program at one time. A few of my friends still coach. Woodward has meetings each year with the varsity and Jr. High coaches involved to go over plays both offense, defense and practice schedule. Way the pros and con's of the ever changing kids\crazy parents\program. So that stops that rumor.

About the varsity coach. IF someone is throwing the idea of a new coach just who would it be and what teaching position is open? I don’t believe any teachers are planning to leave in the next few years. You can hardly get teachers with in the system to coach. Too much time involved for the money. Do you want Clifford, Crabtree or Phillips? They are all pretty comfortable. So who? Nobody. We are a d-5 in this area. Not d-1, 2, 3. Schools are short with money anyway. It is what it is. We are what we are in the soc1 and 2. Good hard working people that love high school sports.


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I heard the pee-wee program was starting to lose some structure that it used to have[/quote]

That's from parents who want to coach. Burg pee-wee doe not allow parent coaches. As far as the structure we had about 65 pee-wee boys play this year. That's pretty impressive if you ask me. The pee-wee has never changed and some outsiders can't stand it.


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"Grandsons coming into the picture soon is what I heard. Maybe he'll come out of retirement to stomp the sidelines again. "




Always heard about "Mama Bears" but maybe Grandpa bears are really the ones to watch out for. Start the rumors now the stadium namesake, who's name must never be said out loud, will once again patrol the burg sidelines. The legend desires to live on. Too bad the burg does not have a short fuse when it comes to all coaches. Long live the return to the past.


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Syntax wrote:wobycat speaks the truth. Go to where the best small school football is played - the MAC - and you will not find football below the fifth grade. In fact, you will be hard-pressed to find football below seventh grade (St. Henry, for one, starts in seventh grade)...and they seem to be doing just fine. Youth football starting in the womb is for the parents, plain and simple. Anyone preaching otherwise has little reputable, long-term evidence.
I Have a friend of mine in South Carolina that I catfish with he is a retired teacher and head football coach were he won 5 state titles not for sure of the division but he told me they had about 1500 students so thats big. Coach told me that a kid should not play full contact football untill they were in the seventh grade.


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I really think fairland will win this one, they have a rough 3 games with a lot of injuries and things going on in the locker room. im sayin fairland by 1 td. and sider, the big kid is back. hes good. i think that the dragons will surprise the burg this year.


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Syntax wrote:wobycat speaks the truth. Go to where the best small school football is played - the MAC - and you will not find football below the fifth grade. In fact, you will be hard-pressed to find football below seventh grade (St. Henry, for one, starts in seventh grade)...and they seem to be doing just fine. Youth football starting in the womb is for the parents, plain and simple. Anyone preaching otherwise has little reputable, long-term evidence.
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I have to take The Burg on this one. It might be closer than most would think, but they will pull this one out.
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Fairland "could" end up on top in this one, its not going to be a cake walk for burg in this game or the rest of the season


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