Portsmouth Trojan's Next Head Football Coach

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And Ted Newsome approves this message.lol


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Kentucky Trojan wrote:
captain ensano wrote:What about Andy Hall from Jackson? He has ties to the area and could be a good "outsider" to come in and rebuild the program with his dad helping him...just a thought :12224
I believe that Andy Hall would be a terrific head coach at Portsmouth.

However, Ted Newsome is next in line for the job.
Right there is the problem with Portsmouth. To say someone is next in line is silly. The school needs to take the best possible coach you can find. Just because you are a good assitant coach doesnt make you a good head coach. West did the same thing in the early 90's when Tipton left they promoted Gibson to head coach and set the whole program back 15 years. That not a shot at Gibson, I respected the man as a coach and played for him but he just wasnt a head coach.


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noles_fan wrote:Right there is the problem with Portsmouth. To say someone is next in line is silly. The school needs to take the best possible coach you can find. Just because you are a good assitant coach doesnt make you a good head coach. West did the same thing in the early 90's when Tipton left they promoted Gibson to head coach and set the whole program back 15 years. That not a shot at Gibson, I respected the man as a coach and played for him but he just wasnt a head coach.
Ted Newsome is also the most capable coach to lead the Trojans into the next 15-20 years of prosperity.

He is next in line due to his connections and personality. He is the most capable due to his many years of dedication to the sport and the kids of Portsmouth.


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noles_fan wrote:Right there is the problem with Portsmouth. To say someone is next in line is silly. The school needs to take the best possible coach you can find. Just because you are a good assitant coach doesnt make you a good head coach. West did the same thing in the early 90's when Tipton left they promoted Gibson to head coach and set the whole program back 15 years. That not a shot at Gibson, I respected the man as a coach and played for him but he just wasnt a head coach.
Ted Newsome is also the most capable coach to lead the Trojans into the next 15-20 years of prosperity.

He is next in line due to his connections and personality. He is the most capable due to his many years of dedication to the sport and the kids of Portsmouth.
Your Missing the point Gibson was a long time assistant to Tipton who left when the program was at its highest it had been at that time. He was the offensive coordinator who had strong ties to the school and was a former Qb at the school. Sometimes all that dont matter and it doesnt work. When your system is broke dont keep jamming the same parts in trying to make it work.


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noles_fan wrote:Your Missing the point Gibson was a long time assistant to Tipton who left when the program was at its highest it had been at that time. He was the offensive coordinator who had strong ties to the school and was a former Qb at the school. Sometimes all that dont matter and it doesnt work. When your system is broke dont keep jamming the same parts in trying to make it work.
I am not missing any point. I know who Coach Gibson is.

Portsmouth needs Ted Newsome. His time to be the head coach is now.

Portsmouth will regret it for 30 years if they fail to hire Ted Newsome as the next head football coach.


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Kentucky Trojan, Newsome is a great guy...but you never mentioned him being a good coach as a reason to hire him. You simply said that just because he was "dedicated" to the program means he'll be a great head coach. Clifford was "dedicated" and look where that got us!!!!!!!

If we hire Newsome, it'll be 20 more years of Clifford has coach. I don't think any of the assts have proven themselves as head coaches.....we have been weak in all facets of the game. We flourish a little bit on offense due to our speed.

We need someone who is gonna to spark the program, bring the fire back to Portsmouth Football. By hiring Ted Newsome or anybody within the staff, I feel very few people are going to get excited about the program.

You knock the Estep brothers about their State championships.....but the fact is they are still proven winners!!! They're at least doing some winning, something Clifford and his assts didn't so very much of his last 5 years. They constantly coach D1 talent, and obviously know what to do with it.


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scarlet_gray wrote:Kentucky Trojan, Newsome is a great guy...but you never mentioned him being a good coach as a reason to hire him. You simply said that just because he was "dedicated" to the program means he'll be a great head coach. Clifford was "dedicated" and look where that got us!!!!!!!

If we hire Newsome, it'll be 20 more years of Clifford has coach. I don't think any of the assts have proven themselves as head coaches.....we have been weak in all facets of the game. We flourish a little bit on offense due to our speed.

We need someone who is gonna to spark the program, bring the fire back to Portsmouth Football. By hiring Ted Newsome or anybody within the staff, I feel very few people are going to get excited about the program.

You knock the Estep brothers about their State championships.....but the fact is they are still proven winners!!! They're at least doing some winning, something Clifford and his assts didn't so very much of his last 5 years. They constantly coach D1 talent, and obviously know what to do with it.
I have stated numerous times on these two websites that Ted Newsome is most knowledgable due to his dedication to the game, community, and our children. He is a good coach. He will be a great head coach given the opportunity.

It takes a while to learn to command. He has never had the opportunity to hold the decision-making button in football. However, the time is now to give it to him.

I am sure that the Esteps are most capable of becoming the head coach at Portsmouth (either one of them). However, Ted Newsome is the one who will be the one who takes Portsmouth to the State Championship game for the first time.

I am sure of it.


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Kentucky trojan good luck with that. By all means pass on another Estep it has worked out well for you so far. With all the controversy this year in trojan land they would be crazy to hire in house. But the school board hasnt made very good choices so far they stood by and watched the program fall to the lowest it has ever been.


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noles_fan wrote:Kentucky trojan good luck with that. By all means pass on another Estep it has worked out well for you so far. With all the controversy this year in trojan land they would be crazy to hire in house. But the school board hasnt made very good choices so far they stood by and watched the program fall to the lowest it has ever been.
No, it was at its lowest in 1978 when PHS went 0-10. This is when Bob Shaffer stepped in as head coach from 1979-1985.

If not Ted Newsome, then I could live with Coach Shaffer as our head coach once again.


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when your program is in dissarray you normally dont look in house to fix the problems . JMHO .


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ManitouDan wrote:when your program is in dissarray you normally dont look in house to fix the problems . JMHO .
My question is this:

Why are the problems associated with Ted Newsome? He was a loyal steward of Clifford during the good and bad years. Clifford made all of the decisions. (Remember, this was Clifford's program!) Newsome has never been given the opportunity to be the decision maker as the head football coach.

Given the opportunity, Newsome will turn the program around and lead it to the State Championship game.


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In regards to hiring a new coach from outside, what teaching jobs will be available?

People talk about bringing in a coach, but I doubt that the Portsmouth schools can pay somebody $70k just to coach football. Most families can't handle a $10k income cut, so even if there are teaching positions, that is a factor.

Also what does a candidate's wife do for a living? Sometimes there aren't jobs in our region for people working in fields besides education or health care. A recent transplant/coach in the area had a wife whose degree was designed to work in the fashion industry. Needless to say she couldn't find good work, and they suffered financially until they left.

Why do Southern Ohio and Appalachian schools largely seem to recycle the same coaches? Because anybody who has lived elsewhere can't afford to move back.

What content area does Coach Estep teach? If he is teaching at a private school out-of-state, there is the possibility that he is not certified to teach in the Ohio public school system.

I hope that Portsmouth can find a coach who can afford dedicate himself to the kids in the program and it's success without sacrificing the financial security of his family.


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ladycatherine wrote:People talk about bringing in a coach, but I doubt that the Portsmouth schools can pay somebody $70k just to coach football. Most families can't handle a $10k income cut, so even if there are teaching positions, that is a factor.
$70,000?????????

Where did you get your numbers?


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Ky -Trojan , having been an assist coach I agree with your point.. I dont know Mr Newsome at all, but it seems like it would be a tough sell.... It certainly wouldnt be fair to scratch his name off consideration because he was part of the staff. been there , lived that .


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ManitouDan wrote:Ky -Trojan , having been an assist coach I agree with your point.. I dont know Mr Newsome at all, but it seems like it would be a tough sell.... It certainly wouldnt be fair to scratch his name off consideration because he was part of the staff. been there , lived that .
Oh yeah...

...hope the tennis game is going well for you lately...

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yet another person who knows who i am and I have no clue who you are LOL .. and tennis ? young mans game , at least thats my excuse.


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There aren't too many of us who have a Portsmouth HS, Portsmouth Notre Dame, and Greenup County connection.

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Just wondering out loud.....whom were the Div 1 football players in the Portsmouth program the last five years?


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Nate Cadogan (Penn St), Jon Pryor (FSU then to Ohio), and I can't remember the exact year Gerald Cadogan (Penn St) graduated, so I'm not sure he fits in the "last 5 years" category.


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Gerald Cadogan graduated in 2004 from Portsmouth.

He is now on the Toronto Argonauts practice squad.

http://www.argonauts.ca/roster/index/team/7/sort/last


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