Future of the SOC

[Omega]

We've heard the rumblings of Waverly looking elsewhere for awhile now...I gotta think the FAC makes sense for Waverly but the FAC would want an even number, so would have to have someone come with Waverly (Unioto? Circleville?)*

A uneven number in the FAC would make a 6 league schedule with four non-league. Doesn't sound too bad.

I could realistically see Circleville, Logan Elm, Teays Valley, Unioto, Zane Trace, Waverly, and Vinton County at least considered for the FAC. To the TVC posters, I don't think Vinton County would leave the TVC so let's get that out before everyone repeatedly tells me they'll never leave the TVC. As for the other 6 schools, I can see Teays Valley take the spot of McClain and the remaining 5 join McClain in a primarily D4 division with the other division being Primarily D2 and D3. The remaining 6 SVC schools (should Unioto and Zane Trace leave the SVC) could be a 3rd division of Primarily D5 and D6 should the FAC and SVC decide to merge into an 18 team league, but it wouldn't be entirely necessary.

As for if Waverly leaves the SOC, who should replace them? Portsmouth? Ironton? Piketon? Does Eastern and Western see an invite to the SVC should Unioto and Zane Trace leave, and who would replace the 2 Pike County schools should they leave the SOC?

I think Waverly's best conference fit in terms of size, balanced competition, and economics is the SVC. Greenfield McClain also would make sense for the SVC.

If the FAC looks to expand it will be Pickaway County.

I also believe the future of the SOC lies in a merger with the OVC for the big schools and the SOC 1 morphing into it's own conference.

As to Wheelersburg, they will realistically dominate the SOC for years to come, but year in and year out they are not ready to go toe to toe with the Hartley's or MAC's of the world. Learn from Waverly's ill fated venture into the SEOAL.

[Football fan]

We've heard the rumblings of Waverly looking elsewhere for awhile now...I gotta think the FAC makes sense for Waverly but the FAC would want an even number, so would have to have someone come with Waverly (Unioto? Circleville?)*

A uneven number in the FAC would make a 6 league schedule with four non-league. Doesn't sound too bad.

I could realistically see Circleville, Logan Elm, Teays Valley, Unioto, Zane Trace, Waverly, and Vinton County at least considered for the FAC. To the TVC posters, I don't think Vinton County would leave the TVC so let's get that out before everyone repeatedly tells me they'll never leave the TVC. As for the other 6 schools, I can see Teays Valley take the spot of McClain and the remaining 5 join McClain in a primarily D4 division with the other division being Primarily D2 and D3. The remaining 6 SVC schools (should Unioto and Zane Trace leave the SVC) could be a 3rd division of Primarily D5 and D6 should the FAC and SVC decide to merge into an 18 team league, but it wouldn't be entirely necessary.

As for if Waverly leaves the SOC, who should replace them? Portsmouth? Ironton? Piketon? Does Eastern and Western see an invite to the SVC should Unioto and Zane Trace leave, and who would replace the 2 Pike County schools should they leave the SOC?

If you see Waverly leave they will just move Oak Hill in and you might see saint joe come back in their enrollment is going up there getting new faculties hand over fist

[Westfan]

As to Wheelersburg, they will realistically dominate the SOC for years to come, but year in and year out they are not ready to go toe to toe with the Hartley's or MAC's of the world. Learn from Waverly's ill fated venture into the SEOAL.

Wheelersburg is really talented at the high school level right now. They will always have talent and field good teams, but judging by their JV and middle school teams you are gonna see a fairly significant dropoff in the next couple years from what they have now in "difference maker" type players.

And before I get blasted by the "you can't tell teams in Middle school", well you can see individual talent. Tanner Holden and others stood out by 7th 8th grade. There is nothing remotely close to him there now.

[BurgGrad6]

As to Wheelersburg, they will realistically dominate the SOC for years to come, but year in and year out they are not ready to go toe to toe with the Hartley's or MAC's of the world. Learn from Waverly's ill fated venture into the SEOAL.

Wheelersburg is really talented at the high school level right now. They will always have talent and field good teams, but judging by their JV and middle school teams you are gonna see a fairly significant dropoff in the next couple years from what they have now in "difference maker" type players.

And before I get blasted by the "you can't tell teams in Middle school", well you can see individual talent. Tanner Holden and others stood out by 7th 8th grade. There is nothing remotely close to him there now.

Lol burg has some studs at the jr high level. Burg is going nowhere anytime soon... trust me..

[BurgGrad6]

Burg has built a program that will compete with the best in their division on a yearly basis..

[Westfan]

Lol burg has some studs at the jr high level. Burg is going nowhere anytime soon... trust me..

They have some good players. No studs

[BurgGrad6]

Lol burg has some studs at the jr high level. Burg is going nowhere anytime soon... trust me..

They have some good players. No studs

Hilarious. Burgs eighth grade team has several studs.

[BurgGrad6]

Better yet. While burg continues to dominate for the next..... forever... remember there are no studs coming up..

[Westfan]

Hilarious. Burgs eighth grade team has several studs.

I just watched them 5 days ago. They are very average

[GoBucks1047]

A uneven number in the FAC would make a 6 league schedule with four non-league. Doesn't sound too bad.

I could realistically see Circleville, Logan Elm, Teays Valley, Unioto, Zane Trace, Waverly, and Vinton County at least considered for the FAC. To the TVC posters, I don't think Vinton County would leave the TVC so let's get that out before everyone repeatedly tells me they'll never leave the TVC. As for the other 6 schools, I can see Teays Valley take the spot of McClain and the remaining 5 join McClain in a primarily D4 division with the other division being Primarily D2 and D3. The remaining 6 SVC schools (should Unioto and Zane Trace leave the SVC) could be a 3rd division of Primarily D5 and D6 should the FAC and SVC decide to merge into an 18 team league, but it wouldn't be entirely necessary.

As for if Waverly leaves the SOC, who should replace them? Portsmouth? Ironton? Piketon? Does Eastern and Western see an invite to the SVC should Unioto and Zane Trace leave, and who would replace the 2 Pike County schools should they leave the SOC?

I think Waverly's best conference fit in terms of size, balanced competition, and economics is the SVC. Greenfield McClain also would make sense for the SVC.

If the FAC looks to expand it will be Pickaway County.

I also believe the future of the SOC lies in a merger with the OVC for the big schools and the SOC 1 morphing into it's own conference.

As to Wheelersburg, they will realistically dominate the SOC for years to come, but year in and year out they are not ready to go toe to toe with the Hartley's or MAC's of the world. Learn from Waverly's ill fated venture into the SEOAL.

I'm interested to see how you would merge SOC II with the OVC.

[Jolly P(irate)]

Hilarious. Burgs eighth grade team has several studs.

I just watched them 5 days ago. They are very average

Haha. You have to find anything you can to talk $hit about Burg. It’s actually kind of petty. Burg will reload again and again. And the next couple years, definitely won’t start next year. They will be monstrous again. Just hang on bub. It may happen in 10 years.

[Westfan]

Whatever makes you feel better.

As far as the SOCII. If Northwest and Oak Hill have football they should play with teams their own size. Either play with the big boys or go independent. Also this picking and choosing to play up in sports your good at but down the one's you're not needs to stop. You should be either all in or all out.

[Seabee_0586]

Burg will always be a soc powerhouse and they will have studs because of the kids that live in other districts that's what is going on at east also right now

[Seabee_0586]

But to get back on topic if waverly goes somewhere else and if oak hill and northwest moves up I like Manchester coming into the soc1 and then western being added

[Seabee_0586]

On my other post on here I'm not bashing burg or east I wish green would get players from other school districts maybe they would win more lol

[Omega]

I could realistically see Circleville, Logan Elm, Teays Valley, Unioto, Zane Trace, Waverly, and Vinton County at least considered for the FAC. To the TVC posters, I don't think Vinton County would leave the TVC so let's get that out before everyone repeatedly tells me they'll never leave the TVC. As for the other 6 schools, I can see Teays Valley take the spot of McClain and the remaining 5 join McClain in a primarily D4 division with the other division being Primarily D2 and D3. The remaining 6 SVC schools (should Unioto and Zane Trace leave the SVC) could be a 3rd division of Primarily D5 and D6 should the FAC and SVC decide to merge into an 18 team league, but it wouldn't be entirely necessary.

As for if Waverly leaves the SOC, who should replace them? Portsmouth? Ironton? Piketon? Does Eastern and Western see an invite to the SVC should Unioto and Zane Trace leave, and who would replace the 2 Pike County schools should they leave the SOC?

I think Waverly's best conference fit in terms of size, balanced competition, and economics is the SVC. Greenfield McClain also would make sense for the SVC.

If the FAC looks to expand it will be Pickaway County.

I also believe the future of the SOC lies in a merger with the OVC for the big schools and the SOC 1 morphing into it's own conference.

As to Wheelersburg, they will realistically dominate the SOC for years to come, but year in and year out they are not ready to go toe to toe with the Hartley's or MAC's of the world. Learn from Waverly's ill fated venture into the SEOAL.

I'm interested to see how you would merge SOC II with the OVC.

South Webster and Northwest go to a reconstituted SOC 1. Waverly to the SVC. The remaining 4 SOC 2 and 8 OVC schools could join in two divisions of 6 with 2 to 3 crossover games and the rest for non conference tilts. I know it is a pipe dream but still fun to imagine.

[Jolly P(irate)]

I think Waverly's best conference fit in terms of size, balanced competition, and economics is the SVC. Greenfield McClain also would make sense for the SVC.

If the FAC looks to expand it will be Pickaway County.

I also believe the future of the SOC lies in a merger with the OVC for the big schools and the SOC 1 morphing into it's own conference.

As to Wheelersburg, they will realistically dominate the SOC for years to come, but year in and year out they are not ready to go toe to toe with the Hartley's or MAC's of the world. Learn from Waverly's ill fated venture into the SEOAL.

I'm interested to see how you would merge SOC II with the OVC.

South Webster and Northwest go to a reconstituted SOC 1. Waverly to the SVC. The remaining 4 SOC 2 and 8 OVC schools could join in two divisions of 6 with 2 to 3 crossover games and the rest for non conference tilts. I know it is a pipe dream but still fun to imagine.

It could be the SOVC. LMAO. how could you align that? There are predominantly weak teams in both conferences. 5 conference games is enough. No need for crossovers. They would be separated for a reason I’m sure. I’d like to see. Burg, Ptown, West, Ironton, CG and anybody else. Still have a need for strong OOC games.

[GoBucks1047]

I know lol I've been trying to think how to do SOC I if they formed their own conference. I've been stuck at 11 if you take the 8 SOC I teams, and add Webster, St. Joe, and South Gallia. Haven't thought about Northwest as a 12 team, but anything's possible; OH-335 would literally divide the league 6-6 in non-football sports while football would have 7-8 teams (depends on Western). If Eastern and Western left for say the SVC, it'd be harder for be to have Northwest be in SOC I and better to have the 9 schools since travel distance within each division would be extremely unbalanced geographically in a 10 team format.

For SOC II and the OVC, if Northwest is in an SOC I conference, I'd have Portsmouth or maybe Ironton move west to an SOC II division while the OVC would have a division without Gallia Academy (who joins the TVC-Ohio) for 6-6 in all sports, but if Northwest played in SOC II as they currently do (football in SOC I only), I'd consider adding Raceland, KY non-football (plays 29 games in basketball) to allow a balanced 7-7 non-football while football remains 6-6 with a minimum 2 crossover games, but wouldn't count towards conference record. Northwest and Raceland, KY would be required to play 3 games against OVC/SOC II teams; they're able to choose which 3 teams, each other don't count. If Northwest is in SOC II all sports, that'd be the only way Gallia Academy stayed in the OVC, but Portsmouth or Ironton would have to move over to the other division to balance the league 7-7.

Also Jolly Pirate, I had the name first

[Jolly P(irate)]

Whatever makes you feel better.

As far as the SOCII. If Northwest and Oak Hill have football they should play with teams their own size. Either play with the big boys or go independent. Also this picking and choosing to play up in sports your good at but down the one's you're not needs to stop. You should be either all in or all out.

You know I’m right.

Anyways, what benefit is there to beating a 0-5 win team? NW is usually around 0-2 wins a year. OH, if in the SOCII, will win a max of 6 games. Depending on the OOC schedule. They win 1 game in conference, maybe. AD’s don’t go out scheduling games with teams who don’t benefit them in the way of playoff points. Now granted, they can’t see the future, but they try their best to benefit their program. Why would you want a weak team to come into your conference? The only reason OH is on the schedule is because of playoff points.

[Westfan]

Wheelersburg doesn't want Oak Hill in the SOCII because they play them out of conference. Right now OH wins 6 to 8 games every year because they play the weak SOCI schools. If they go to the SOCII the easy secondary playoff points are gone.