Week 7 Cancellations

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It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.


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93Bulldog wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:17 am Running clock is irrelevant, the Cats starters rarely played much in the 4th Q during those blowouts - and they were not playoff savvy in 2013, the Trimble run of dominance started around that time. They played in 2 playoff games in 2012, losing to NC in the 2nd up at Sheridan. They completely dominated every team across the field from them for 8 straight weeks in 2013, even week 11 at home, then each game got a little tougher during their march to Massilon.
Thimble left the starters in on defense in some of those blowouts to try and get a shutout. Yes they were way better than all of those teams and it seemed silly for them to leave them in but to each his own.


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formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.
Its not community pressure. Spoke with booster president last night at Vball game. All of the teams off this week want HOME games, Shadyside has HC. Piketon has HC. Port ND didnt want to basically come to Lancaster twice. Coach told AD if a game wasnt scheduled by Tues night that we didnt want to play a team with wed & thurs to prepare. Trimble just became available yesterday. If you look at our schedule we did play 3 teams outside the MSL Cardinal that are/usually decent teams in Coal Grove (which we went to), Caldwell (which we went to) and Beaver Eastern (which is down this year but we played in the 2nd rd last season). Its not that we're dodging so stop with the "when he was our coach..."


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SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:12 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.
Its not community pressure. Spoke with booster president last night at Vball game. All of the teams off this week want HOME games, Shadyside has HC. Piketon has HC. Port ND didnt want to basically come to Lancaster twice. Coach told AD if a game wasnt scheduled by Tues night that we didnt want to play a team with wed & thurs to prepare. Trimble just became available yesterday. If you look at our schedule we did play 3 teams outside the MSL Cardinal that are/usually decent teams in Coal Grove (which we went to), Caldwell (which we went to) and Beaver Eastern (which is down this year but we played in the 2nd rd last season). Its not that we're dodging so stop with the "when he was our coach..."
You could do what Trible did to Waterford and refuse to play them unless they play on Saturday to give you "an extra day of practice." I'm sure they'd do it just to get a game.


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formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.
And another point, you, as a FC fan (rivals or not) should know the struggles of OUR two programs. BU has seen more 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 seasons than we have seen 9-0 or 10-0 seasons. We didnt rank us 6th in the state, the AP writers did. All we can do is line up against the teams on our schedule. Next season some team will play us thinking theyre playing last seasons 6th ranked team not knowing that we graduated 10 starters. So it goes with small school football, especially in the MSL Cardinal.


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SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:23 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.
And another point, you, as a FC fan (rivals or not) should know the struggles of OUR two programs. BU has seen more 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 seasons than we have seen 9-0 or 10-0 seasons. We didnt rank us 6th in the state, the AP writers did. All we can do is line up against the teams on our schedule. Next season some team will play us thinking theyre playing last seasons 6th ranked team not knowing that we graduated 10 starters. So it goes with small school football, especially in the MSL Cardinal.
Pull the trigger, play Trible, see how your program measures up.


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SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:12 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.
Its not community pressure. Spoke with booster president last night at Vball game. All of the teams off this week want HOME games, Shadyside has HC. Piketon has HC. Port ND didnt want to basically come to Lancaster twice. Coach told AD if a game wasnt scheduled by Tues night that we didnt want to play a team with wed & thurs to prepare. Trimble just became available yesterday. If you look at our schedule we did play 3 teams outside the MSL Cardinal that are/usually decent teams in Coal Grove (which we went to), Caldwell (which we went to) and Beaver Eastern (which is down this year but we played in the 2nd rd last season). Its not that we're dodging so stop with the "when he was our coach..."
Can’t play on Saturday with Friday as an extra day of preparation?


Schools that want to play make it happen. They don’t screw around until the 11th hour, and decide ultimately to not play, when it becomes apparent that the 5th home game isn’t happening.

I look forward to BU scheduling a home-and-home with NC, in the future.


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Wish them all luck finding games
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Pat wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:19 pm
SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:12 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.
Its not community pressure. Spoke with booster president last night at Vball game. All of the teams off this week want HOME games, Shadyside has HC. Piketon has HC. Port ND didnt want to basically come to Lancaster twice. Coach told AD if a game wasnt scheduled by Tues night that we didnt want to play a team with wed & thurs to prepare. Trimble just became available yesterday. If you look at our schedule we did play 3 teams outside the MSL Cardinal that are/usually decent teams in Coal Grove (which we went to), Caldwell (which we went to) and Beaver Eastern (which is down this year but we played in the 2nd rd last season). Its not that we're dodging so stop with the "when he was our coach..."
You could do what Trible did to Waterford and refuse to play them unless they play on Saturday to give you "an extra day of practice." I'm sure they'd do it just to get a game.
From the way I’m guessing the seeding will end up , Trimble will be coming to town wether Berne wants them or not


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SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:23 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.
And another point, you, as a FC fan (rivals or not) should know the struggles of OUR two programs. BU has seen more 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 seasons than we have seen 9-0 or 10-0 seasons. We didnt rank us 6th in the state, the AP writers did. All we can do is line up against the teams on our schedule. Next season some team will play us thinking theyre playing last seasons 6th ranked team not knowing that we graduated 10 starters. So it goes with small school football, especially in the MSL Cardinal.
I'd enjoy seeing BU break the Cardinal curse of playoff football (as in, the Round of '8'.) No wins from our league since 2006. A decently deep playoff run for BU would be great for them. To an extent, it'd also help inspire the rest of the league. BU would have a lot more positive momentum as a program to be had from that than the untouchable regular season. I just don't see how the untouchable regular season is going to prepare them whatsoever.

The playoff monkey on the back is tough for both of us. '18, '19, '20... like, I can see the writing on the wall. Hopefully my vision is wrong, though.


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formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:31 pm
SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:12 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am It’s weird because when BU’s coach was our coach in 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 he would schedule us against teams better than this year’s Shadyside and Trimble. No disrespect to either of those squads. And our teams weren’t as good (although league play was 100x tougher in ‘11 and ‘12) as this year’s BU.

Gotta be a community pressure thing to not bust the 9-0 season.
Its not community pressure. Spoke with booster president last night at Vball game. All of the teams off this week want HOME games, Shadyside has HC. Piketon has HC. Port ND didnt want to basically come to Lancaster twice. Coach told AD if a game wasnt scheduled by Tues night that we didnt want to play a team with wed & thurs to prepare. Trimble just became available yesterday. If you look at our schedule we did play 3 teams outside the MSL Cardinal that are/usually decent teams in Coal Grove (which we went to), Caldwell (which we went to) and Beaver Eastern (which is down this year but we played in the 2nd rd last season). Its not that we're dodging so stop with the "when he was our coach..."
Can’t play on Saturday with Friday as an extra day of preparation?


Schools that want to play make it happen. They don’t screw around until the 11th hour, and decide ultimately to not play, when it becomes apparent that the 5th home game isn’t happening.

I look forward to BU scheduling a home-and-home with NC, in the future.
Fisher playing NC anytime soon?


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SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:47 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:31 pm
SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:12 pm

Its not community pressure. Spoke with booster president last night at Vball game. All of the teams off this week want HOME games, Shadyside has HC. Piketon has HC. Port ND didnt want to basically come to Lancaster twice. Coach told AD if a game wasnt scheduled by Tues night that we didnt want to play a team with wed & thurs to prepare. Trimble just became available yesterday. If you look at our schedule we did play 3 teams outside the MSL Cardinal that are/usually decent teams in Coal Grove (which we went to), Caldwell (which we went to) and Beaver Eastern (which is down this year but we played in the 2nd rd last season). Its not that we're dodging so stop with the "when he was our coach..."
Can’t play on Saturday with Friday as an extra day of preparation?


Schools that want to play make it happen. They don’t screw around until the 11th hour, and decide ultimately to not play, when it becomes apparent that the 5th home game isn’t happening.

I look forward to BU scheduling a home-and-home with NC, in the future.
Fisher playing NC anytime soon?
Hopefully. The two schools are interested in bringing back the series. Now we have JH football and an actual structure in place to keep numbers consistent in the high 20’s/low 30’s here in a couple years.

NC wants to play us. You know why we don’t play anymore, right?


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formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:55 pm
SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:47 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:31 pm
Can’t play on Saturday with Friday as an extra day of preparation?


Schools that want to play make it happen. They don’t screw around until the 11th hour, and decide ultimately to not play, when it becomes apparent that the 5th home game isn’t happening.

I look forward to BU scheduling a home-and-home with NC, in the future.
Fisher playing NC anytime soon?
Hopefully. The two schools are interested in bringing back the series. Now we have JH football and an actual structure in place to keep numbers consistent in the high 20’s/low 30’s here in a couple years.

NC wants to play us. You know why we don’t play anymore, right?
No clue


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SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:08 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:55 pm
SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:47 pm

Fisher playing NC anytime soon?
Hopefully. The two schools are interested in bringing back the series. Now we have JH football and an actual structure in place to keep numbers consistent in the high 20’s/low 30’s here in a couple years.

NC wants to play us. You know why we don’t play anymore, right?
No clue
They don’t play anymore because Hurps kept having incoming freshman classes with 15 kids say they’ll play football only for 3 to come to first day of practice. Kids kept getting pulled away to keep the soccer program alive. 2014 FC was up on NC most of the game but it slipped out of their grasps. Depth really hurt. He saw the writing on the wall with numbers (FC was going to have a team with less than 20 boys) and told NC it wasn’t going to be sensible to keep playing. It was a tough decision for sure.

Ideally we’ll play NC in ‘23, ‘24, whenever. If we have to play anyone in the playoffs (if we make, which… who knows) I’d love to play NC.


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Ought to change the name of this thread to "mythical matchups" was jus trying to see who's been cancelled... lol


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Anyone saying I want a game by x day so we can prepare is BS. As both teams are in the same boat, if I schedule say a Trimble on Monday or on Wednesday we both have the same amount of time to prepare and didn't know the opponent until the exact same time. Seen it numerous times this year if we can't get it by Tuesday we don't have time to prepare, neither does the other team so you're on equal footing. No one has the advantage because a game was scheduled later in the week.


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If Covid wasnt a factor, nobody would be complaining because BU isnt trying to find/play a game. They didn't have a game scheduled this week anyways, right?


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93Bulldog wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:17 pm If Covid wasnt a factor, nobody would be complaining because BU isnt trying to find/play a game. They didn't have a game scheduled this week anyways, right?
Correct. League game with Millersport was canceled before season.


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93Bulldog wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:17 pm If Covid wasnt a factor, nobody would be complaining because BU isnt trying to find/play a game. They didn't have a game scheduled this week anyways, right?
LOL, OOOOOK. Yeah and if they weren't undefeated and beating nobody's there would be no complaints either right?? SMH. Also if there wasn't Covid we wouldn't have a weekly discussion of canceled games right? The part you're trying to smooth over for stepping in it is that no one is complaining, ppl are throwing out games they'd love to see happen. Teams like Piketon and Berne Union are to loaded teams for the 2021 season and simply put their regular season schedules suck, and THIS season is the only time where teams can upgrade once the season has started if teams have canceled. Nothing more nothing less, name another season where teams could adjust and bite off something more to prepare their team?? Just doesn't happen


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SugarGroove wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:23 pm
93Bulldog wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:17 pm If Covid wasnt a factor, nobody would be complaining because BU isnt trying to find/play a game. They didn't have a game scheduled this week anyways, right?
Correct. League game with Millersport was canceled before season.
FWIW that’s not considered a league game this year. Playing them has no impact on the league standings.


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