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Re: MVL Football

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MVL should raid the LCL right now. Heath, Lakewood, Licking Valley, and Zanesville. Watkins and Licking Heights will be Div. 1 in a couple of years.


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Re: MVL Football

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New MVL Regions:

D3 Region 11
John Glenn
Sheridan
Tri Valley

D4 Region 15
Maysville
New Lex
Philo

D5 Region 19
Coshocton
Crooksville???
Meadowbrook
Morgan
River View
West Muskingum


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Re: MVL Football

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Adj Enrollment based off (EMIS + CB#)

(D3) Tri Valley 322 (Big)
(D3) Sheridan 316 (Big)
(D3) JG 271 (Big)
(D4) Philo 246 (Big)
(D4) Maysville 239 (Small)
(D4) New Lex 212 (Small)
(D5) Mbrook 201 (Small)
(D5)Morgan 195 (Big)
(D5)Coshocton 190 (Small)
(D5)West M 190 (Small)
(D5)River View 184 (Big)
(D5)Crooksville 158 (Small)

One of these does not look like the other!!

Also if Crooksville is recruiting players to bump their CB# up they're doing a bad job of it!!


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Play60Football wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:11 am
(D5)Crooksville 158 (Small)

One of these does not look like the other!!

Also if Crooksville is recruiting players to bump their CB# up they're doing a bad job of it!!
106 schools getting indexed into a Division VI where the spread was 43 real/imaginary boys (156 - 113) goes to show the quagmire that is trying to legislate “fairness.”

— — —

Crooksville’s CB number is weird.

32 isn’t divisible by 3. So they had at least two Tier 1’s. (2)

10 tier 2’s (= 30) and two tier 1’s (= 2) for 12 CB’d kids?

9 T2’s ( = 27) and 5 T1’s (=5) for 14?

8 T2’s ( = 24) and 8 T1’s (=8) for 16?

The Ceramics only had a roster of, like, 30-32. With freshmen, who don’t have to be counted if they don’t see the field.

Like this just speaks to why CB is dumb. If a school with 150+ boys (9-12) can’t get more than 20 kids in the village to play football, why on God’s earth would they be D5? That’s not competitive balance. It’s stupid.


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Play60Football wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:11 am Adj Enrollment based off (EMIS + CB#)

(D3) Tri Valley 322 (Big)
(D3) Sheridan 316 (Big)
(D3) JG 271 (Big)
(D4) Philo 246 (Big)
(D4) Maysville 239 (Small)
(D4) New Lex 212 (Small)
(D5) Mbrook 201 (Small)
(D5)Morgan 195 (Big)
(D5)Coshocton 190 (Small)
(D5)West M 190 (Small)
(D5)River View 184 (Big)
(D5)Crooksville 158 (Small)

One of these does not look like the other!!

Also if Crooksville is recruiting players to bump their CB# up they're doing a bad job of it!!
Wild! Morgan hasn’t even started their big school 4 year run and aren’t even the biggest small… I know this is only boys, but still. River View is shrinking drastically!

I often times think about how SE Ohio seems to be shrinking in population, especially our league teams, with lack of major industry. I fully expected to see schools dropping in divisions. Sheridan, New Lex, Crooksville all moved up a division while Morgan and River View are the only two to drop.


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formerfcfan wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:50 pm
Play60Football wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:11 am
(D5)Crooksville 158 (Small)

One of these does not look like the other!!

Also if Crooksville is recruiting players to bump their CB# up they're doing a bad job of it!!
106 schools getting indexed into a Division VI where the spread was 43 real/imaginary boys (156 - 113) goes to show the quagmire that is trying to legislate “fairness.”

— — —

Crooksville’s CB number is weird.

32 isn’t divisible by 3. So they had at least two Tier 1’s. (2)

10 tier 2’s (= 30) and two tier 1’s (= 2) for 12 CB’d kids?

9 T2’s ( = 27) and 5 T1’s (=5) for 14?

8 T2’s ( = 24) and 8 T1’s (=8) for 16?

The Ceramics only had a roster of, like, 30-32. With freshmen, who don’t have to be counted if they don’t see the field.

Like this just speaks to why CB is dumb. If a school with 150+ boys (9-12) can’t get more than 20 kids in the village to play football, why on God’s earth would they be D5? That’s not competitive balance. It’s stupid.
The Crooksville number did stick out to me so I asked around. Apparently they have a high open enrollment because the way their district sits. The one that has always been at the forefront is Roseville. Roseville is the little town between South Zanesville and Crooksville but belongs to Philo District for some reason. Roseville is 3 miles from Crooksville and apparently almost all of the kids in that town open enroll to Crooksville, Why wouldn't they (3 miles or 15 miles to Philo). Another thing I wasn't aware of was that Morgan School District is 2 miles from Crooksville high school. So a large number of students open enroll because of the convenience of travel. I'm sure NL district is close to the school as well. So i'm guessing these open enrolled kids are the biggest factor for their CB#.
I'm still a little fuzzy on the CB details. Does it matter if a student has gone to a school since they were in the younger grades? or is Open Enrollment just a blanket thing.


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Re: MVL Football

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Post by MVLfan » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:42 am

New MVL Regions:

D3 Region 11
John Glenn
Sheridan
Tri Valley

D4 Region 15
Maysville
New Lex
Philo

D5 Region 19
Coshocton
Crooksville???
Meadowbrook
Morgan
River View
West Muskingum
I believe Coshocton and River View are in Region 17


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Re: MVL Football

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MoCoSportsGuy02 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:16 pm
Post by MVLfan » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:42 am

New MVL Regions:

D3 Region 11
John Glenn
Sheridan
Tri Valley

D4 Region 15
Maysville
New Lex
Philo

D5 Region 19
Coshocton
Crooksville???
Meadowbrook
Morgan
River View
West Muskingum
I believe Coshocton and River View are in Region 17
You’re correct, they are D5 Region 17. I was separating by division and added regions.


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I agree that down the road the LCL will have a new look. Watkins is a candidate to return to the OCC and I believe Licking Heights would want in the club as well. I never understood Watkins leaving as they were a force in several sports and competitive in others. Soon they will be too big for their LCL brethren.

I think the MVL will stay the same for several more years. If Crooksville defects then Cambridge would be fine.


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Looking at the agenda for the Morgan School Board meeting for tomorrow they will have a new football coach this year.


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by Sportsfan01 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:00 pm

Looking at the agenda for the Morgan School Board meeting for tomorrow they will have a new football coach this year.

Morgan grad and current offensive coordinator Seth Brown was elevated to head coach. Chase Bowman stepped down as head coach to become full-time assistant Morgan Athletic Director. The school district has a rule that does not allow administrators to be coaches.


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Sportsfan01 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 3:00 pm Looking at the agenda for the Morgan School Board meeting for tomorrow they will have a new football coach this year.
Lost a lot of talented seniors, moving to the big school division, I assume a bump in pay, ultimately did what he set out to do and turned his alma mater around after a TON of hard work....... Sounds like Chase Bowman is a smart man!


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Re: MVL Football

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Less than 100 days away.. what’s the big storylines this year?
Tri Valley primed for dominance and a big playoff run.
Can Sheridan rebuild after their big loss to graduation?
Who takes control of the small division after West’s big graduation loss?
Does the league have a player like Sesay this year that has a miraculous season? Jayden Wallace is probably best bet.

What else ya got?


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- Tri Valley has all the talent for dominance this year in the MVL. A big playoff run will be daunting. Them and Sheridan are in a HECK of a region..... If you get out you are big time!

- I think Sheridan will do their thing. A loss to Tri-Valley, maybe a loss to someone else, but I just don't see it. Maybe NL in a crossover game.

- The Tornadoes did take some heavy loss, I think they'll come back to the pack. It'll be a good test to see. They had very talented classes the last few years but they're gone. Very talented players still here but are they going to have that edge to them, we'll see. I'll go on a limb and say they'll beat the teams they're supposed to and lose to the teams they should! Earth shattering prediction.

- TV has all the platers that are getting D1 looks...... That much talent is "supposed" to produce big results when you're in the MVL. I think there are players all over the league that are very talented but other than TV I think it's just a very good grouping of teams and platers..... Should be very competitive!

Do Coshocton and Meadowbrook get over the hump? They've had talented younger teams the last few years, do they get anything rolling. How does Morgan adjust to the big school division? Losing their coach, Losing very talented seniors? Their younger teams have not been very good, what's coming down the pipeline?

Talked to a buddy and he said Crooksville plans on playing a ton of young guys, sounds like they're in for another rough one.

And then there's been all the talk (strictly on this form from what i have seen) of teams upset in the MVL, nothing seems to be coming of it so is it just rumor? or are teams actually upset?


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Big School will be more of the same.

1. Tri-Valley
2. Sheridan
3. John Glenn
4. Philo
5. Morgan
6. River View

Small School is a little more up in the air. I think 2-5 is very fluid.

1. New Lexington
2. West Muskingum
3. Maysville
4. Coshocton
5. Meadowbrook
6. Crooksville

Tomorrow (May 21) is the Muskingum Valley League College Showcase.
At Tri-Valley HS at 4:30 pm.
Over 100 league seniors and juniors participating in drills, combine type activities.


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Re: MVL Football

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Region 11 might be the toughest region in the state this coming year, taking size of schools out of it as D1 schools may be better, but there are going to be some very good teams at home week 11 and 12. The winner of that region will certainly be battle tested.

What people don’t always think about is the extra practices all the younger players get when a team makes a big postseason run, which is why it is so much easier to reload after losing so much. This senior class has had 8 extra weeks of practice and development, that’s almost another full season. They will be just fine.

This years small division could be the most open since the split. Meadowbrook came into the league and had 2 VERY good years. New Lex had a senior laden team in 22, West the same last year. I’ve said before, Coshocton is a dark horse this year, heck they nearly beat West last year in that wild game. Meadowbrook has been playing a lot of young guys the last couple of years; they should be primed for a good year.

Regardless, it should be a very exciting season in the league.


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