BACK COACH BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BlizzardMan]

If it time to move on than delete this thread.

[Orange and Brown]

If I knew how I would.

[Orestes]

Or I have an opinion and believe that the adminstration was in tghe right and I am defending their actions. If he couldn't finish the degree, he shouldn't have agred to do it. What happened is Coach Boston began to believe that the rules did not apply to him. And judging by the situation, they do not.

Ok. But tell me, how does a Meigs fan have information that can give him the necessary insight into the inner-workings of NY in order for him to properly determine whether the decision was correct or incorrect?

You are either working on 2nd or 3rd-hand information, or you are not really a Meigs fan.

Do you know Coach Boston personally? Do you know the other actors involved in this situation personally?

If so, how do you feel about these people as individuals? I find it hard to believe that some Meigs fan has an intellectually honest opinion about this situation, unless that person already likes or dislikes the actors involved.

[boogerred]

Or I have an opinion and believe that the adminstration was in tghe right and I am defending their actions. If he couldn't finish the degree, he shouldn't have agred to do it. What happened is Coach Boston began to believe that the rules did not apply to him. And judging by the situation, they do not.

Ok. But tell me, how does a Meigs fan have information that can give him the necessary insight into the inner-workings of NY in order for him to properly determine whether the decision was correct or incorrect?

You are either working on 2nd or 3rd-hand information, or you are not really a Meigs fan.

Do you know Coach Boston personally? Do you know the other actors involved in this situation personally?

If so, how do you feel about these people as individuals? I find it hard to believe that some Meigs fan has an intellectually honest opinion about this situation, unless that person already likes or dislikes the actors involved.

He's an River Valley Grad. (not that there is anything wrong with being an RV alumnus, as I am one). Look at everything he ever posts on the entire site. Everything is based on third or even fourth-hand information. He talks just about as much s*** as I do.

I agree, No coach is bigger than the administration and school district and half the people at the meeting probably had no clue other than wanting him to stay as coach because football is all they have in Nelsonville. If the man should have been going for a degree and was told 10 years ago to do it, then he should have manned up and did what he had to do instead of dragging the community into it and hiding behind them and then crying wolf when he didn't get his way. Society today is jacked up and things like this just continue to make it worse. As for the previous quote about Meigs only beating Nelsonville 1 time, I remember back in the late 60's early 70's when Nelsonville-York pulled an Athens and got out of the SEOAL when they couldn't win many games at all and Meigs handed them some of their worst defeats ever so that talk needs to cease.

Once again Imfao, great post. Coach Yinger is a standout guy. Coach Boston has simply failed to comply with ehat was asked of him.

He even said that football is all there is in Nelsonville in one sentence and then talks about the wrestling coach in another post on the same page. Come on! He is full of it and we all know that.

[boogerred]

How is that for not having any brains?



Have you ever seen the movie Pitch Black? Think about a scene toward the end when Riddick kills that one alien and said "Did not know who he's f****ng with." as he cut the thing to shreds with a little shank. That (the dead alien) would be you right now.

[madpolecat]

"When the dyin' starts, this little psycho-f**k family of ours is gonna tear itself apart."

[BlizzardMan]

Boogered, I didn't even post your second quote. You may wanna check that again. I do happen to know someone close to the situation, so choke on that.
I am sorry to have an opinion guys. The school board was not treated properly.

[BlizzardMan]

I agree, No coach is bigger than the administration and school district and half the people at the meeting probably had no clue other than wanting him to stay as coach because football is all they have in Nelsonville. If the man should have been going for a degree and was told 10 years ago to do it, then he should have manned up and did what he had to do instead of dragging the community into it and hiding behind them and then crying wolf when he didn't get his way. Society today is jacked up and things like this just continue to make it worse. As for the previous quote about Meigs only beating Nelsonville 1 time, I remember back in the late 60's early 70's when Nelsonville-York pulled an Athens and got out of the SEOAL when they couldn't win many games at all and Meigs handed them some of their worst defeats ever so that talk needs to cease.

I did not post this. I do remember reading it though. I would know nothing about the 60's or 70's. I'm 22!

[Orestes]

So.... here is Blizzard's profile...

22 years old
Supposed Grad of River Valley and played in 2003.
Was just hired to teach at Meigs
Has had contact with Coach Boston
Knows enough about Coach Yinger to compliment him as a person
Somehow knows the board was treated unfairly
Somehow knows what went into the Super's decision-making process
Somehow knows what style of football Trimble plays and how NY plays into their hands


This sounds either like a person who is make-believe or someone who is giving opinions about things he/she knows nothing about.

Count me in as believing option 1.

[NYBuckeye96]

So.... here is Blizzard's profile...

22 years old
Supposed Grad of River Valley and played in 2003.
Was just hired to teach at Meigs
Has had contact with Coach Boston
Knows enough about Coach Yinger to compliment him as a person
Somehow knows the board was treated unfairly
Somehow knows what went into the Super's decision-making process
Somehow knows what style of football Trimble plays and how NY plays into their hands


This sounds either like a person who is make-believe or someone who is giving opinions about things he/she knows nothing about.

Count me in as believing option 1.

[NYBuckeye96]

I remember back in the late 60's early 70's when Nelsonville-York pulled an Athens and got out of the SEOAL when they couldn't win many games at all and Meigs handed them some of their worst defeats ever so that talk needs to cease.

NY and Meigs only played three times before Meigs joined the TVC - the first three years of each school after consolidation - '67, '68, and '69. They did not play again until Meigs joined the TVC in '83. I'm assuming these are the three games that were "some of their worst defeats ever".....

1967 Meigs (A) 28-0
1968 Meigs (H) 30-0
1969 Meigs (A) 42-12

NY went 4-5, 3-7, and 0-10 in those three years, so Meigs wasn't the only team that had NY's number in those first few years of Buckeye football. I can give you scores of other games during those three years that would show Meigs wasn't the top loss for the Buckeyes during that three year stint.

NY went 2-8 in '70 in its first season in the TVC and then went 5-5 in '71.

NY didn't have its first winning season in 1972 and hasn't looked back since. NY had loosing seasons in '75, '86, and '99 and thats it. If you want to jump all over the "ineligible player" for the freshman who had a couple plays in a couple blowout wins in '07, then the '07 season goes from 6-4 to 4-6. So if you want to beat your chest and call '07 a loosing season, go ahead and throw that year in as well. I still have more fingers on my left hand than NY has had loosing seasons since 1971.


But I will counter your statement and say that NY has given Meigs some of their worst defeats ever......defeats even larger than the three games above......:

1993 Nelsonville-York (H) 65-7
2003 Nelsonville-York (H) 50-8
1991 Nelsonville-York (H) 46-7
1994 Nelsonville-York (A) 43-6
2004 Nelsonville-York (A) 40-0
2000 Nelsonville-York (A) 35-7
2001 Nelsonville-York (H) 34-12
1997 Nelsonville-York (H) 30-0

In addition, NY has won 17 of the last 20 games played versus Meigs.

[buckfan84]

I guess if I were a teacher, I would not be posting on these boards or at the very least not telling people that I am a teacher. I know there have been people fired for less.

FYI, ALL teachers, coaches, etc. are only given a one year contract at NY. Not just coaches. As far as the degree, this RUMOR is simply not true. There have been no demands to this. I am sure that the school would like him to get a degree but there have been NO, I repeat, NO demands for him to do so.

[BlizzardMan]

First off, I did nt graduate in 2003. Much of that information was disclosed by boogered who had no right to do so. I have spoken with Coach Boston at a JV football game (constitutes contact). I do know Coach Yinger b/c I wrestled against him many times and was coached by him at the Southeast Ohio All-Star Wrestling Meet. I stated my opinion that the board was treated unfairly by the community. Only said that I feel the Super had to have a reason to want to dump Coach Boston. As a football observer, I am familiar with the styles of play that both NY and Trimble have used for several seasons, and anyone involved in school postitions knows the difference between supplemental and administrative contracts. Orestes, I never made a personal attack on you, so I am sorry that you felt justified to come after me while hiding behind your keyboard. You need to learn how to distinguish an opinion from fact and learn that your opinion is not the only one that matters. As for you boogered, go to some other thread and make up stories about how great of a college wrestler you were.
I do know that NY program is a great one. We did lose badly to them my senior year and I wish that we would have had half of the intensity and pride that the Buckeyes did. Hell, I lined up against Ernie Perkins! I am not trying to diminish this program at all. At least keep that in your closed minds.

[ucantcme]

Yeah, you got me. I am a grown man jealous of a high school football program. When I played against them at River Valley, we beat them 18-7. So doess that make you jealous? I just feel that the Super and school board were not able to do what they felt was right, and I think Coach Boston could have done things differently. I think the whole world might be jealous of the Buckeyes!!! You guys are just that awesome. I am out of high school and have no reason to be jealous. You guys just can't understand that their is a world beyond Nelsonville Ohio. And I thought Ironton fans were bad!!

First off, I did nt graduate in 2003. Much of that information was disclosed by boogered who had no right to do so. I have spoken with Coach Boston at a JV football game (constitutes contact). I do know Coach Yinger b/c I wrestled against him many times and was coached by him at the Southeast Ohio All-Star Wrestling Meet. I stated my opinion that the board was treated unfairly by the community. Only said that I feel the Super had to have a reason to want to dump Coach Boston. As a football observer, I am familiar with the styles of play that both NY and Trimble have used for several seasons, and anyone involved in school postitions knows the difference between supplemental and administrative contracts. Orestes, I never made a personal attack on you, so I am sorry that you felt justified to come after me while hiding behind your keyboard. You need to learn how to distinguish an opinion from fact and learn that your opinion is not the only one that matters. As for you boogered, go to some other thread and make up stories about how great of a college wrestler you were.
I do know that NY program is a great one. We did lose badly to them my senior year and I wish that we would have had half of the intensity and pride that the Buckeyes did. Hell, I lined up against Ernie Perkins! I am not trying to diminish this program at all. At least keep that in your closed minds.

Ok Now what I would figure if you say you beat us it was 2003 that means you were 15 or 16 when you graduated. Because now you say you're 22 But wait you are saying now that you were beat badly your senior year witch could be any of the other senior years you may have had and that would make you even younger. Now you are on here claiming you were hired at meigs but i dont think you work at meigs at all. You seem to know a lot more about the things going on than the people that are close to this. Something is not adding up. I do think you work at a school.....I think you know wrestling pretty well.I think you even coached it at another school... I think I know who you are but I wont let it out on here... its against the rules.. If it looks like crap smells like crap chances are.........From what I hear around the school and I am very close to the situation, I am a senior at NY. The board the super and the coach worked everything out. the right thing was done and we will be better for it.

[55buckeyes98]

If this were about a degree, would he not have been fired from the AD position rather than the coaching position? I am sure there are other high school varsity coaches without bachelor degrees. <--- no associate degrees, as Boston put in more time and classwork than what it takes for that...

Second, what about the AD position requires a person to have a 4-year college degree? Is it the game scheduling? Official hiring? Bus organization for away games?

It seems that people are first trying to find a way to criticize Boston, then they are choosing which "reasons" best fit the argument.

Also, I was told a while ago that Boston started to finish his degree, and then the school administration became upset that he was missing some athletic events at the school. He was asked to stop and to return to the games. I am almost certain that a degree had little to do with this...

In my opinion being an Athletic Director is a lot more than just those things. I think you should be designing a way to get more kids involved in athletics, developing more sports (not soccer), possibly set up intramurals, and find a way to get all kids into some type of strength and conditioning program. One of my frustrations as a coach is getting the other sports programs to believe in "year-round" strength training. I do not believe that players in other sports need to go in and lift for hours and hours, but a good 30-45 minute session 2-4 times a week will help players get stronger during the season and not have to start over once their sports are over. That will also help your sports teams finish the season stronger, in better shape, and healthier. Strength training is not putting on tremendous amounts of weights and bragging to everyone how much you can do. Safety should be the first priority. The AD should set up and hire coaches across the board who have a similar vision about athletics. The AD should also be involved in helping promote their kids to colleges and help all athletes get recruited to colleges for sports and find schools that meet the kids needs.

[BlizzardMan]

I graduated in 2005, but attended the U. of Rio Grande my jr and sr years as a PSO student. I have been employed as a substitute teacher this year and just got hired by the Athens-Meigs ESC as a Multi-Handicapped Instrudtor. The sattelite position is at Meigs High. Now that all of my private information has been forced out of me! I am just stating opinions! I am aware of hoe the AD position works b/c many schools still treat this position as a supplemental position, or extra-curricular position as opposed to a full-time administrative position. Meigs is a school who does it the same way as NY. Coach Boston does not have to have a degree b/c of this. He was simply asked to get one. Guys, I am done with this if you stop asking me questions and saying that I am a "made-up" person. Boogered used to coach me in wrestling, and actually helped me tremendously when I was a freshman. He wil tell you this.
And I did NOT post that reply about Coach Boston crying wolf or whatever it said. Did anyone figure out where that came from?

[bengalfan76]

I guess if I were a teacher, I would not be posting on these boards or at the very least not telling people that I am a teacher. I know there have been people fired for less.

FYI, ALL teachers, coaches, etc. are only given a one year contract at NY. Not just coaches. As far as the degree, this RUMOR is simply not true. There have been no demands to this. I am sure that the school would like him to get a degree but there have been NO, I repeat, NO demands for him to do so.

No all teachers do not get one year contracts. For the first three years one year contracts. After that they go to multiple year contracts.

[buckfan84]

This is what I was told by a teacher at NY that has been there several years. Apparently there was a lawsuit in the Cleveland School System and offering one year contracts to all teachers was a way to circumvent this lawsuit.

[bigcatmarietta]

ok, ok, ok…
BlizzardMan is getting a beat down for his opinions. I feel sorry for him. I also feel sorry that it took a community to save a good coaches job. I have no idea what happened or is going on there at Nelsonville, well I think the school is in Buchtel anyway. The fact is, that if the coach did something to warrant being removed that he should take that like a man. if there is something else going on, why would you want to push out a winner. What a sad situation. oh one more thing, is there any reason that if this degree has anything to do with it, why in 10 years he could not finish. that is a bit extreme. There is not work at the school that makes you that busy. Taking a poor attempt at humor here, I doubt that this man is going after a doctorate.
BlizzardMan sounds like an educated man with an opinion. the problem is his opinion is making all of you guys mad at him. I want to wish both sides a lot of luck this fall. I hope meigs and Nelsonville have great seasons. I wish ether one of them would take our place and play Logan for us. hahahaha

[BlizzardMan]

bigcat, Logan is all yours! ! At least the Buckeye fans have passion, but at some point you have to wake up and realize that there is more than football and we have to let the powers that be do what they were chosen to do and think that maybe Coach Boston actually did something wrong. All I can say is what goes around comes around. If the board was in the wrong at first and the right decision was made than good things will happen in Nelsonville, or whatever town the high school is in. If it is the opposite, karma will catch up to Coach Boston and all of those who were out to get the Super and the Board.