Valley 21 - West 17

[playa_44]

Valley did win the game but the officials were terrible. The guy on the west sideline gave valley two fumbles that were clearly not fumbles. Valley played cheap all night with late hits that did not get called.The play at the end of the half when pendleton was getting up and the kid punched him right in front of the ref and nothing was done was rediculous.Then at the end of the game when Valley fumbled the snap and west recovered it the refs huddled and gave the ball back to valley.The very next play pendleton was laying on the ground and a valley kid stomped on him and nothing was called.Now with that being said I want you to know I am an adult and I seen these things with my own eyes and none of this was here say. I wish the best for valleys #10.

This is only a part of what I witnessed. It is a fact, the Valley team capitalized on the momentum the REFS gave them. Good for them, no hard feelings on that end. Hope the player 10 is going to be ok. Good Luck to West the rest of the season. Congrats Minford, don't see Valley coming close to you this year. Too bad it is not a home game for Valley cause it would have been the first home game they lost in 4 years or something insane like that. Now I can see why. Don't take it personal Valley fans. What does West have, 3 returning starters from last year? Good job again and keep working hard young'uns!

[tigermack]

West is way overrated! As I said in earlier posts Valley should've won this game but by a bigger margin.

Well if you believe West is overated then what is Valley? West outplayed Valley in this game for over 3 qs.

You certainly picked an appropriate name for this forum. No, they didn't outplay Valley for three quarters inmho. Who has West beat? Seriously, tell me a good solid team that West has beat? I'm waiting.......????????

[fuzzhead]

They beat a decent Fairland team in week one. That's about it.

[NewEra]

Valley did win the game but the officials were terrible. The guy on the west sideline gave valley two fumbles that were clearly not fumbles. Valley played cheap all night with late hits that did not get called.The play at the end of the half when pendleton was getting up and the kid punched him right in front of the ref and nothing was done was rediculous.Then at the end of the game when Valley fumbled the snap and west recovered it the refs huddled and gave the ball back to valley.The very next play pendleton was laying on the ground and a valley kid stomped on him and nothing was called.Now with that being said I want you to know I am an adult and I seen these things with my own eyes and none of this was here say. I wish the best for valleys #10.

This is only a part of what I witnessed. It is a fact, the Valley team capitalized on the momentum the REFS gave them. Good for them, no hard feelings on that end. Hope the player 10 is going to be ok. Good Luck to West the rest of the season. Congrats Minford, don't see Valley coming close to you this year. Too bad it is not a home game for Valley cause it would have been the first home game they lost in 4 years or something insane like that. Now I can see why. Don't take it personal Valley fans. What does West have, 3 returning starters from last year? Good job again and keep working hard young'uns!

Minford defeated Valley at Valley last season, and Burg did as well, so I dont know where you got that 4 year stat at.

[tigermack]

FAIRLAND (PROCTORVILLE) W 15 - 14 IV H

9/5/2009
PORTSMOUTH (PORTSMOUTH) L 20 - 21 IV A

9/11/2009
SOUTH POINT (SOUTH POINT) W 34 - 14 IV H

9/18/2009
ROCK HILL (IRONTON) W 34 - 21 IV A

9/25/2009
CHESAPEAKE (CHESAPEAKE) W 42 - 6 V H

10/2/2009
WAVERLY (WAVERLY) W 65 - 14 III H

10/10/200
7:30 PM MINFORD (MINFORD) L 6 - 27

[Cameron34Crazie34]

FAIRLAND (PROCTORVILLE) W 15 - 14 IV H

9/5/2009
PORTSMOUTH (PORTSMOUTH) L 20 - 21 IV A

9/11/2009
SOUTH POINT (SOUTH POINT) W 34 - 14 IV H

9/18/2009
ROCK HILL (IRONTON) W 34 - 21 IV A

9/25/2009
CHESAPEAKE (CHESAPEAKE) W 42 - 6 V H

10/2/2009
WAVERLY (WAVERLY) W 65 - 14 III H

10/10/200
7:30 PM MINFORD (MINFORD) L 6 - 27

Give it up...We know our schedule. West never said we played a tough schedule. It's time for you to get off and hit the sack

[Jesco White]

Valley did win the game but the officials were terrible. The guy on the west sideline gave valley two fumbles that were clearly not fumbles. Valley played cheap all night with late hits that did not get called.The play at the end of the half when pendleton was getting up and the kid punched him right in front of the ref and nothing was done was rediculous.Then at the end of the game when Valley fumbled the snap and west recovered it the refs huddled and gave the ball back to valley.The very next play pendleton was laying on the ground and a valley kid stomped on him and nothing was called.Now with that being said I want you to know I am an adult and I seen these things with my own eyes and none of this was here say. I wish the best for valleys #10.

This is only a part of what I witnessed. It is a fact, the Valley team capitalized on the momentum the REFS gave them. Good for them, no hard feelings on that end. Hope the player 10 is going to be ok. Good Luck to West the rest of the season. Congrats Minford, don't see Valley coming close to you this year. Too bad it is not a home game for Valley cause it would have been the first home game they lost in 4 years or something insane like that. Now I can see why. Don't take it personal Valley fans. What does West have, 3 returning starters from last year? Good job again and keep working hard young'uns!

Actually, Valley lost to Minford at home last year. They lost to Wheelersburg at home last year. They lost to Coal Grove at home last year. (That's 2-3 at home last year) They lost to Chesapeake and Rock Hill at home in 2007. (That's 3-2 at home that year) They lost to West, Wheelersburg, Waverly, and St. Thomas Aquanis at home in 2006. (They played 6 home games that year and went 2-4). They went 5-0 in the regular season at home in 2005 and added a win at home in the playoffs to finish 6-0 at home that year....then again, they finished 11-2 that year overall, so they were pretty good on the road too.

By my count, that's 13-9 at home in the four years leading up to this season. When you add the 5-0 mark at home this year, that's still only 18-9 overall at home in the last five years. During that same time span, they were 25-18 overall before this year. Add the 7-1 mark this year and you've got 32-19 since the start of the 2005 season. By my math, that makes them 14-10 on the road which isn't a whole heck of a lot different than at home.

So, what was your point again about how you see why they have the record they have (that unbeaten record that you claim they have) at home over the last four or so years?

[crab_apple4]

wow... this thread is just great reading.

It's 4 am and I knew that getting on here would bring... West is better, West was cheated, and the refs cost West the game. The penalties and the yardage are both wrong. West with 14 penalties for 65 yards doesn't makes sense, because these were not half the distance penalties... The count that I heard was 14 West penalties to 11 Valley penalties.

As for the fumbles they were obviously not fumbles and West was cheated... Valley cheated to play with Minford last season... Valley has no chance the next 2 weeks... And Minford is easily the best division V team to ever don a football uniform. Great effort tonight Valley, you got lucky and you don't deserve to be on the same field as SOC II powerhouses like West and Minford. Great win tonight, just don't expect to ever win again with the help of the officials. And quit playing so dirty, because you know that you are better sports than that... Hell, Valley is know as one of the dirtier teams in southern ohio football... you hafta clean it up!

[coop]

WOW....this thread is childish. Go back and watch the VSN cast people...fumbles were legit. I saw plenty of "cheap shots" out of the ole West Side as well....especially after Utley took the second knee he popped back up and then was shoved down...resulting in a 15 yard flag. I had the penalties at 14-10 West...but like I said watch the tape..Valley didnt make the Sider kids jump offsides or false start...but whatever.

What fails to be mentioned is the fact that Valley spotted West 9 points, hell the West offense scored 1 touchdown...and they only had to go 43 yards to do that. You cant sit and tell me Valley was dominated and outplayed...sorry. When you score 1 offensive TD to the other teams 3..West outgained Valley by about 50-60 yards in total offense..

The fact of the matter is, the Indians did what we thought they could do, and that was after the lost one of the best players they have on the FIRST offensive play. (Praying for Brice, lets hope the injury isnt as it appeared)

OAFER!!!! How were those celebration Vienna sausages?

[ManitouDan]

If Playa 44 would go away (or sober up) this thread would'nt seem to be going downhill so bad --He was called out directly to point out SPECIFIC plays where west got this blatant and unfair treatment but has failed to point out anything.
Hats off to the west fan who admitted the fumbles were fumbles. Sometimes the view from the stands 40-50 yards away is different from being on the field.

Part of what got the west folks hacked off was the insane calculation of penalty's on the post game show. Sounds like a few heard the wrong stats and ran off to their computer to report about it. penalty's were more like 14-10.

West gave the game away in the 4th quarter with untimely turnover's. thats the bottom line. Valley's passing stats were pretty dang good. That did'nt have anything to with the ref's . Something like 14 of 20 for 165 yards . Sloppy game but Valley made the bigger plays in the 4th when the game was on the line.

Finally no one has given any props to Alex Holcomb . Fine player with the speed of his Ol' man . LOL MD

[F-4 Phantom]

WOW! I can't believe all those soph's (6 starters) on "D" have become such great cheap shot artists. Man that's some terrific coaching! I can't believe the soph/junior laden offense was able to muster up a little offense to beat West in the fourth. No one has mentioned it but I saw a West team in the fourth quarter who ran out of gas. Half their defense was doubled over after every play, when Valley went to strictly pass.

It's easy to diminish a win by blaming others for your own demise. Valley won tonight because they wanted it more. West lost because they aren't very well conditioned for a team that will fight them for four quarters. IMO. Some need to get over it and move on. You are looking childish/foolish in defeat! For the adult posters only, grow up!

[fuzzhead]

Oh good grief! For the 6,000,000th time this year: THIS IS NOT LAST YEAR'S WEST TEAM!
Beating them isn't that big of a deal. They're one of the most one-dimensional teams I've ever watched, period. Plus, they do get a lot of penalties. Why can't you people just come to terms with that? They got beaten by a darn good team tonight - a team I thought would beat them worse than this.

Do you find times to come into West Threads and look for times to repeat yourself. This is the 234928423 time that have came into a West thread and quoted us for saying we are as good as we was last year. I've yet to read anywhere from one West poster thats states they believe this years West team is good as last years team. West fans no they would be stupid to say such a thing.

This was not directed towards the West sore losers, initially. It was directed at Muletown Maniac who made a comment about the penalties. He'd been trying to get under my skin all night and he finally got me upset.

[Uncle C]

Too bad it is not a home game for Valley cause it would have been the first home game they lost in 4 years or something insane like that.

No valley lost to minford at valley last year,,,in the rain ...on a cold wet night

[playa_44]

My bad. Thought someone told me that last night about no loses at home. That is the only thing I will apologize for. The REFS controlled this game, not the players. Never seen anything like it in YEARS of football. Seen plenty of bad calls but not like this..and lack of calls. Sorry, it was that bad.
If you want specifics so bad, I will watch the film, take notes, and pm you. Hey, maybe I'll have a change of heart. Doubt I see anything like this again for years to come, hope not anyway. Good luck to both teams the rest of the year.

[pmow3]

This thread was really good with alot of laughs and pretty good posts.. But after the game, this thread went to crap.. It's a shame, because this game was really more about Valley not giving up and playing 4 qtrs.. The play calling to win this was excellent. We kept west on their heels.
The reporting on the radio after the game was bad. There could be alot of reasons for that. (Roger that?) And the West fans, I'm sure, rode home and listened to that and probably just got more upset.. The end of the game was not handled well by the officials. The ref behind the QB should have watched the play and seen the QB down the ball and stand back up real fast, and none of the post game stuff would have even happened...(except the OAF would have still eaten the vienna sausages)

[WestSportsFan]

Good job boys in a hard fought game. Keep your heads up and make the best of the next two games. Sometimes the best teams don't always come out with the W, as in this case. Breaks and a little luck help a team get the Win at time. You are a young solid team with a chance for a good run the next 3 to 4 years (as the outcome of the JV game will show this). I can say from watching the game that the best team didn't win and my opinion as everyone here seems to have one that Valley's wins are over unless Minford and Burg just doesn't show up to play. I'm glad to see that the focus of unsportmanship has made it to other schools. (ex. after a punt return some blocking going on and all of sudden a Valley player jumps on top of a West player and starts throwing punches then 2 to 3 other players get in the face of the West player that was down). oops I forgot to mention no flag on this play as well as the several face masks to Pendleton.

[sportsfan43]

Good job boys in a hard fought game. Keep your heads up and make the best of the next two games. Sometimes the best teams don't always come out with the W, as in this case. Breaks and a little luck help a team get the Win at time. You are a young solid team with a chance for a good run the next 3 to 4 years (as the outcome of the JV game will show this). I can say from watching the game that the best team didn't win and my opinion as everyone here seems to have one that Valley's wins are over unless Minford and Burg just doesn't show up to play. I'm glad to see that the focus of unsportmanship has made it to other schools. (ex. after a punt return some blocking going on and all of sudden a Valley player jumps on top of a West player and starts throwing punches then 2 to 3 other players get in the face of the West player that was down). oops I forgot to mention no flag on this play as well as the several face masks to Pendleton.

again?

if west keps getting beat by teams worse then them, whos fault is it?

is it time for a change?

[F-4 Phantom]

The best team lost. The same best team that allowed a hapless Trojan team beat them. Oh yes that's right, they were pumped because it was their first game in their new stadium.

The same best team that was man handled by Minford and the same best team that the BURG will kill come week 10.

Oh, the same best team that let little ole DV Valley beat the big bad dominate DIV West team.

Get used to it "ADULT SIDERS"!

[Black@Orange]

Chicken_Coop says West spotted Valley 9 points. Since when have they changed the rule that you can't score on defense? I guess the tipped pass to Yates for a td, was just the way Crabtree drew it up.

Horrible officiating, West can beat Valleys 11, but not Valleys 18. The best team didn't win tonight. Embarrassing win for Valley. Come to think of it Flannigan had alot to do with your win in 07. Great job by West staff keeping the players tempers under control. When it was obvious we was being homered.

[Is What It IS]

Whats funny is some these posters have less IQ than the score

Bottom Line: West played not to lose it at the end and made the mistakes and Valley played to win and capitalized on those mistakes.

1. The officiating was poor, which is a X-factor ~ bad is bad doen't matter what color of jersey your wearing.
2. What about if you were capable of picking up a couple crucial first downs, instead of crying of calls (see 1)
3. Both teams made alot mistakes, niether team will be able afford that against the BURG and come even close.
4. On the kneel down, the call could have been personal foul for unsportmanlike conduct or a late hit by rule. The player was down and the play dead as soon as his knee touches, the only way you could have had a fumble on that play was a bad qb/center exchange, that didn't happen. for those that said (bubba voice) I saw it, it should have been sider ball, we were robbed. the only thing you were robbed was your eye sight isn't 20/20 anymore.

The team that needed to make the plays did, the other didn't. Great game to watch, both teams played hard
and the rest is what it is